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I checked the service (thanks for the info). It says 1627 hours. That's not outlandish for a floor model, is it?

Yeah, I am still torn. The 65" 4k TV looked fantastic, but the display on the OLED is just out of this world.

I have 30 days.
thats good news for us owners, you have a functioning set with no glaring issues
thanks for the info


yeah, i could see where the size would be an issue, good luck in your decision
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I just bought the floor model from a local electronics place for a pretty reasonable price.

Even though my viewing has been limited to streaming Netflix so far the display is so far above and beyond anything I've experienced to this point that I couldn't be more impressed.

Some owners mentioned dead pixels but after a thorough search I can't detect any. Since this unit was a floor model with 1000s of hours of display time under its belt can I assume the panel is safe from that issue?

I initially had my mind set on a 65-70 inch TV but the discount brought this set into my price range. The store had a very nice brand new 65" Samsung 4k set at exactly the same price and they offer 1 free exchange within 30 days (they come to your house and exchange the units for free). I'm assuming I will be happy with this set for many years due to the unbelievable picture quality, but can a HDTV expert put my mind at ease over this?

I wasn't foolish for selecting a 55" OLED floor model over a new 65" 4k TV, was I?
If you are happy with the relatively small size, I would say it depends of the price really. If you were lucky you could of got a new one for $2K from MicroCenter and now that the new models are here probably close to $2K on clearance. You add the fact it is used and slightly abused with 1600 hours, I would feel good with $1500 or less price. If you got a good one there is no beating the picture, but be on the lookout for dead pixels, banding, streaks of purple and yellow at the edges on all white screen.
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I paid $2400. They added a two year complete warranty for free.

I went over the unit with a fine toothed comb and it looks brand new. Not a single blemish to be found. Otherwise I would not have considered it.
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I would waited atleast to the new 55" that has better specs ... just weeks to its out
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Download sliders, pause on each colour n look close to the screen only way u se the stuck or dead ones....
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considering he has a 1 yr manufacturing warranty on it, he might keep it for awhile before looking for reasons to return, as he would be more likely to get a newer model
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Wow... the display is absolutely stunning. Do you guys have any recommendations for any specific setting I should change? I'm finding a bunch of settings I'm not familiar with, such as "super resolution" and things of that nature. Secondly, even in Game Mode, the sound from the TV is pretty far behind the sound on the gamepad of my Wii U. I set the audio to optical out, too... not sure if there's any other way of speeding it up.

Anyway, I'll spend some time looking into some of these settings. For now though, I'm very, very happy with it
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http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.p...&id=1388765934

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http://www.avforums.com/threads/lg-e...tings.1859306/
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It took me a while to get the browser working when I got home (I didn't know it had to be a wired connection to update the software) and I finally ran a dead pixel test. There are a few spread out over each color.

But, try as hard as I might, I can not pick them out when video is playing. I can't even pick them out when I look at the demo display pics with my eyes 2 inches from the screen. Why is that?

I'm still terribly torn about keeping this TV or trading it in for one of the new 4k TVs. Will the dead pixel problem get worse and worse over time? What are the odds a new TV will have dead pixels anyway? I only get one trade in.
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It took me a while to get the browser working when I got home (I didn't know it had to be a wired connection to update the software) and I finally ran a dead pixel test. There are a few spread out over each color.

But, try as hard as I might, I can not pick them out when video is playing. I can't even pick them out when I look at the demo display pics with my eyes 2 inches from the screen. Why is that?

I'm still terribly torn about keeping this TV or trading it in for one of the new 4k TVs. Will the dead pixel problem get worse and worse over time? What are the odds a new TV will have dead pixels anyway? I only get one trade in.
I have yet to hear of anyone being able to see dead pixels on content

Did the tv come with a factory warranty of 1 year?
I have heard 8 dead sub pixels warrants a return, but I'm not positive
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The salesperson said it had the full 1 year warranty and they added a year for free.

Also - the TV I can basically trade it in for for free (because they're selling it at the same price) is the LG 65UB9500, not a Samsung.

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Thanks, Kinglm! I actually think the colors look pretty great on Game Mode (weird that it looks better to me than "THX" mode), but I'll mess around with these settings and see how they look!
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Last question before I likely vacate this thread (thanks for your patience):

I'm finally watching some BRs on the OLED, and they're as spectacular as I expected. I decided against trading for the LG65UB9500. The picture really can't hold a candle to this set and I'd rather keep it, even with some dead sub pixels.

However - I could upgrade to a new Samsung PN64F8500 plasma for about $200, and I've heard great things about that set. Would anyone here make that trade?

If that's not a good idea I'll just keep the OLED and enjoy it.
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Last question before I likely vacate this thread (thanks for your patience):

I'm finally watching some BRs on the OLED, and they're as spectacular as I expected. I decided against trading for the LG65UB9500. The picture really can't hold a candle to this set and I'd rather keep it, even with some dead sub pixels.

However - I could upgrade to a new Samsung PN64F8500 plasma for about $200, and I've heard great things about that set. Would anyone here make that trade?

If that's not a good idea I'll just keep the OLED and enjoy it.
It's the size vs pq debate and the pn64f8500 narrows that gap
Although I have never seen the pn64, I have doubt that it matches the pq of oled
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Last question before I likely vacate this thread (thanks for your patience):

I'm finally watching some BRs on the OLED, and they're as spectacular as I expected. I decided against trading for the LG65UB9500. The picture really can't hold a candle to this set and I'd rather keep it, even with some dead sub pixels.

However - I could upgrade to a new Samsung PN64F8500 plasma for about $200, and I've heard great things about that set. Would anyone here make that trade?

If that's not a good idea I'll just keep the OLED and enjoy it.
do you ever watch in complete darkness? and when you do, does the black level on your oled disappear into the blackened room?


that's where the f8500 falls apart. it's great compared to everything else that was made between CRT and OLED. but I suspect oled beats it in overall picture quality, and that imo, is the most important part of any tv.


the only pros I can come up with for the f8500 is if you watch mostly with the lights on. it has a great filter and aside from the blacks not being 0ftl it presents a very good image. speculation wise, there may be a reliability advantage to buying a plasma at the end of its life cycle compared to an oled at the start. there shouldn't be many surprises with the f8500.

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^what he said. If you do movie night a lot, you'll be annoyed with the poor black performance of the f8500 relative to the OLED. If you do 3D at all, you'll likely be frustrated with the difference as well. Also, if you aren't used to plasma buzz and you frequently watch TV with just the TV speakers you'll be especially annoyed with the buzzing sounds; however, if you use a surround sound setup I doubt you'll ever notice it.

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Last question before I likely vacate this thread (thanks for your patience):

I'm finally watching some BRs on the OLED, and they're as spectacular as I expected. I decided against trading for the LG65UB9500. The picture really can't hold a candle to this set and I'd rather keep it, even with some dead sub pixels.

However - I could upgrade to a new Samsung PN64F8500 plasma for about $200, and I've heard great things about that set. Would anyone here make that trade?

If that's not a good idea I'll just keep the OLED and enjoy it.
I own the 64" F8500 and can confirm it's a great picture. Personally, I wouldn't trade it for a 55" OLED since I find 55" just too small these days.

With that said, the deeper blacks of the OLED will give a more impressive picture in dark scenes...even though the blacks are excellent on the 8500.

So it becomes a question of nearly 10" more screen real estate vs deeper blacks. I prefer the more immersive experience of the larger screen.
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do you ever watch in complete darkness? and when you do, does the black level on your oled disappear into the blackened room?


that's where the f8500 falls apart. it's great compared to everything else that was made between CRT and OLED. but I suspect oled beats it in overall picture quality, and that imo, is the most important part of any tv.


the only pros I can come up with for the f8500 is if you watch mostly with the lights on. it has a great filter and aside from the blacks not being 0ftl it presents a very good image. speculation wise, there may be a reliability advantage to buying a plasma at the end of its life cycle compared to an oled at the start. there shouldn't be many surprises with the f8500.
I thinking 'falls apart' is much too much over the top. Yes, OLED blacks are deeper, but trust me, in a dark room with dark scenes, the black levels of the 8500 never call attention to themselves.
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I thinking 'falls apart' is much too much over the top. Yes, OLED blacks are deeper, but trust me, in a dark room with dark scenes, the black levels of the 8500 never call attention to themselves.
yeah, they do. I've had my f8500 for over a year now. I'm very aware that blacks aren't black.


it's not terrible compared to what the other options are, but just because everything else sucks doesn't mean the there's not a lot of room for improvement on the f8500.
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I just got back from paying the upgrade cost so I guess I'll be heading over to the PN64F8500 owner's thread soon. I still have the same BRs I watched on the OLED so I'll watch some of the scenes on the Samsung and post my impressions about how the two compare.

It absolutely KILLS me to return this TV. I'm as in love with that display as any electronics I've ever purchased. I think it displaces the Radeon 5970 that allowed me to game on multi-monitors for the first time.

What ultimately turned the tide in favor of returning was the age/use of the unit (there seems to be little agreement on how long these 1st gen units will last) and the number of dead blue sub pixels. The black and white dead pixel test screens had no flaws, and the red and green ones had between 5 and 10. The blue one had well over 10, and once I knew where they were I could see them on the blue PS4 home screen from a few feet away. I could not see them from the couch (about 6 feet away).

The Samsung is brand new, factory sealed. Since this is the only free return I get I think I will refrain from testing for dead pixels. If there are any I don't want to know where they are.
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The amount of dead subs is alarming

Lol at not running slides, I completely understand, hopefully the Samsung works out for you
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yeah, they do. I've had my f8500 for over a year now. I'm very aware that blacks aren't black.

it's not terrible compared to what the other options are, but just because everything else sucks doesn't mean the there's not a lot of room for improvement on the f8500.
The F8500 would have been the darkest plasma ever measured had it not been for the VT/ZT60. So yes, I stick by the 'falls apart' description as over the top. I'm not sure how you have yours adjusted, but my ISF'd 64" is very dark. I just can't imagine someone complaining about the blacks. Room for improvement, sure, but the same could be said for the VT/ZT.
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The F8500 would have been the darkest plasma ever measured had it not been for the VT/ZT60. So yes, I stick by the 'falls apart' description as over the top. I'm not sure how you have yours adjusted, but my ISF'd 64" is very dark. I just can't imagine someone complaining about the blacks. Room for improvement, sure, but the same could be said for the VT/ZT.
Darker than the kuro?
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Depends on which Kuro and whether it was 'modified'. But my recollection was that it did measure darker than a stock Kuro. I only recall the VT/ZT being darker, but I could be wrong.
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The amount of dead subs is alarming
I agree. Vegas also mentioned another display model with tons of hours that had a large number of dead pixels. This would worry me if I was an owner who still has a low number of hours. You could be in for a nasty surprise in a few months.

I guess keep extending that warranty and ask LG to swap panels once the dead pixels become too large to ignore.
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Lol at not running slides, I completely understand, hopefully the Samsung works out for you
At least 4K will help with the dead pixel problem. Even now on the 1080p sets, dead pixels are hard to see in regular content. 4K should make it damn near impossible.
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I thinking 'falls apart' is much too much over the top. Yes, OLED blacks are deeper, but trust me, in a dark room with dark scenes, the black levels of the 8500 never call attention to themselves.
Yep, about 2-3 times darker the OLED's are ....... not to mention the brightness is off the charts.
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The F8500 would have been the darkest plasma ever measured had it not been for the VT/ZT60. So yes, I stick by the 'falls apart' description as over the top. I'm not sure how you have yours adjusted, but my ISF'd 64" is very dark. I just can't imagine someone complaining about the blacks. Room for improvement, sure, but the same could be said for the VT/ZT.
Not entirely correct.
The VT/ZT60 and VT50 hold their black better in ansi contrast measurements.

I still prefer my F8500 over my VT50. As a whole, I think the F8500 "WHEN PROPERLY CALIBRATED" is one heck of a display.

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The F8500 would have been the darkest plasma ever measured had it not been for the VT/ZT60. So yes, I stick by the 'falls apart' description as over the top. I'm not sure how you have yours adjusted, but my ISF'd 64" is very dark. I just can't imagine someone complaining about the blacks. Room for improvement, sure, but the same could be said for the VT/ZT.
I very clearly said it was great compared to what we've seen between crt and oled. but the FACT remains it is very obviously not black when watching in a dark room. this is something I've been annoyed with since getting rid of my CRT RPTV, and while the f8500 is close, if the oled has achieved true blacks, that is a huge deal for me.


the vt/zt or even a kuro is irrelevant to this. I never said any of those was any better(even though they all are, it's subtle and they still fail to achieve true black). this is a difference of plasma(the f8500 in particular) that still has a 'glow' when it's supposed to be black, and oled not having that glow.
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if the oled has achieved true blacks, that is a huge deal for me.

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you cannot tell if the oled is even on, with an all black screen
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you cannot tell if the oled is even on, with an all black screen
perfect! that's how the Hitachi RPTV I had was, and I've missed that!


not that I'm in a position to jump into oled today, but at least I'm not losing sleep over plasma dieing anymore.

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