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I am doubtful this girl even knows what a 10-bit panel is. Call-centers are ridiculously misinformed, even when passed through to the so-called experts.
She made a phone a confirmed with a person she called the OLED Guru. She said that Netflix 4K is 10 bit color and all 4k therefore are 10 bit. She made the call to confirm the 9300 also is. I asked her if I could take a photo of her book which had 2 4k models and the. 9300 on it and she stated it was not public information at this time.

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She made a phone a confirmed with a person she called the OLED Guru. She said that Netflix 4K is 10 bit color and all 4k therefore are 10 bit. She made the call to confirm the 9300 also is. I asked her if I could take a photo of her book which had 2 4k models and the. 9300 on it and she stated it was not public information at this time.
Netflix 4K being 10 bit somehow ensures that the all 4K panels are 10 bit? LOL.
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Netflix 4K being 10 bit somehow ensures that the all 4K panels are 10 bit? LOL.
No, this is why LG was smart enough to make all 2014 4k models 10 bit, Unlike Sony and Samsung.
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No, this is why LG was smart enough to make all 2014 4K models 4k. Unlike Sony and Samsung.
4K models 4K?
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4K models 4K?
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Run sliders to check the 9300 uniformity on grey scale when u get it hope they improved it.
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Run sliders to check the 9300 uniformity on grey scale when u get it hope they improved it.
We should know from the Shootout at Value Electronics. The Samsung OLED I check out today had perfect uniformity and no bad pixels but not as much POP as the LG. I still greatly prefer the samsung OLED over the 1st gen LG, hoping to see improvements.
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Take loads of pictures when u get it.
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No, this is why LG was smart enough to make all 2014 4k models 10 bit, Unlike Sony and Samsung.
Ok but even if netflix streams 4k in 10 bit, this 55 ec9300 isn't 4k. So I would think we'd still get 8 bit stream. It always pains me to watch netflix on my sets, I always feel like I'm missing PQ. It does look pretty good, but ultimately the bitrate isn't going to be comparable to bluray anytime soon. On my 65" 4K 1080p bluray still surpasses the 4K netflix stream to my eye. Maybe on a 75"+ things would be different. The other big thing is sound, my system will quickly show the limitations of compressed audio. I remember putting in GoT bluray after watching my DVR recording and being blown away by the video and audio improvements. It really is a shame we have to rely on netflix and Sony 4k player for 4K content. 4k is supposed to be all about quality, and then you go and compress it and stream it? Look what's happening, you frequently read people saying how they just aren't that impressed with 4K. For the 4K format to take off, you need some high bit rate content to impress potential buyers. I for one am looking forward to watching a full bitrate 4K recording once a physical media format comes out.
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We need a 4k format to finally se what 4k might look maxed out.
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We need a 4k format to finally se what 4k might look maxed out.
I agree, you would think Samsung and Sony would have at least met Netflix standard which they did not.
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My card has been charged and my New OLED is on its way!

Status: In transit Ship Carrier: CEVA Tracking ID: A###### Latest Event: Charleston TN
Package has left seller facility and is in transit to carrier - August 15, 2014 3:20:30 PM
And the return clock has been recycled and will begin ticking away shortly.

Good luck.
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We need a 4k format to finally se what 4k might look maxed out.
Hoping for some news at the IFA.
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The LG spec sheet for model 55EC9300 says "10 BIT-COLOR PROCESS"

A 10-bit panel, compared to an 8-bit panel, offers only 4X the number of colors, not "almost 60X" as indicated in the LG spec sheet. Did LG change the rules of binary arithmetic? (LOL)
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We need a 4k format to finally se what 4k might look maxed out.
We should start a petition thread to see how many votes we get, so they get their slow asses Rollin the ball quicker. I believe it would be in the thousands if everyone votes. I can't see why anybody wouldn't want a new 4K format and I'm not talking streaming junk but hardisc.
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A 10-bit panel, compared to an 8-bit panel, offers only 4X the number of colors, not "almost 60X" as indicated in the LG spec sheet. Did LG change the rules of binary arithmetic? (LOL)

It's actually 4X per color, so with the three primary colors (RGB), the result is 4x4x4=64X the number of colors.


The LG spec sheet is accurate without changing the rules of binary arithmetic.
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Here's a review if you can call it that: http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...oled-tv-review

Extremely shallow unfortunately.
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Here's a review if you can call it that: http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...oled-tv-review

Extremely shallow unfortunately.
Well the review wasn't that 'shallow' or it wouldn't have shown the new 55" still has some issues.
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Ken just being Ken. Lousy review from someone who obviously is not a expert. To call trace IR. Within the first hours BURNIN shows a person who really has zero expertise. To call the red a problem which was able to be calibrated to fix is another questionable call. Waiting to see what the experts from the Shootout say and not this obviously amateur review.

Color is a problem on a set when it cannot be fixed like on the Sharp Elite. I am sure Sharp Elite owners wish a calibration would fix their color issues.

To state that a TV is too bright is the absolute most Ignorant statement I have ever read in a Television review.

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Burn in reports in thar 9300 review
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the TV pleases with highly saturated colors, but it doesn't perfectly adhere to international color ideals without informed calibration.
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While the TV handles movement well enough on the whole, it just lacks the kind of breathtaking efficacy I saw in other areas of this OLED's performance
"breathtaking efficacy" Is that anything like exasperated exuberance? (was that the correct phase?)
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We did find that the TV's red production can be corrected with an informed calibration, but it's a shame that the TV doesn't adhere to HDTV color standards right out of its box
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The burn in on my sample eventually lessened in severity over time, but it took many days before it became undetectable to the naked eye.
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despite this TV's incredible black level, it ramps up in brightness in a way that's better suited for a room with normal or even high amounts of ambient lighting........... it's a shame that the TV isn't already set up for dark-room viewing out of the box.
I think it's called retail mode.
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It's actually 4X per color, so with the three primary colors (RGB), the result is 4x4x4=64X the number of colors.


The LG spec sheet is accurate without changing the rules of binary arithmetic.

You are correct... I was thinking the levels of each color. Strange that LG just wouldn't say 64X instead of "almost 60X."
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Burn in reports in thar 9300 review
You completely made this up. An ignorant reviewer call temporary trace IR in the 1st 12-24 hours Burn-in. Please don't mis-lead members who are smart enough to read this ignorant review for themselves.
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This ie the most ignorant opinion I have EVER read in a TV review

"Last but not least, consumers considering purchase may want to keep in mind that, despite this TV's incredible black level, it ramps up in brightness in a way that's better suited for a room with normal or even high amounts of ambient lighting. Dark and middle gray tones above black are too luminous for an ideal home-theater setup; for example, if you're watching a dim, wintery scene, highlights of white within dirty snow are so luminous that your eyes will struggle to see the subtler, darker details around them. You can fix this with an informed calibration session, but it's a shame that the TV isn't already set up for dark-room viewing out of the box."

This review is the absolute most ameture review I have ever read
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Another performance drawback I noticed is what appeared to be "burn-in," which refers to ghost-like leftover shapes from previous content. In other words, I would exit a menu screen only to see a momentary trace of its former shape over top of new content. This effect can be distracting at first, but will fade over time. Just be warned that it may really bother you for the first 12-24 hours of use. The burn in on my sample eventually lessened in severity over time, but it took many days before it became undetectable to the naked eye.

Yeh made it up
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Another performance drawback I noticed is what appeared to be "burn-in," which refers to ghost-like leftover shapes from previous content. In other words, I would exit a menu screen only to see a momentary trace of its former shape over top of new content. This effect can be distracting at first, but will fade over time. Just be warned that it may really bother you for the first 12-24 hours of use. The burn in on my sample eventually lessened in severity over time, but it took many days before it became undetectable to the naked eye.

Yeh made it up
Maybe you need to learn what Burn-in is, if you knew Burn-in NEVER goes away. Thank you for the post as the others can read for themselves what you think burnin is.

I really am not out too defend this set, only state the truth. I have a Samsung OLED 10 minutes from my house if I wanted it. What I will not do,is let an ignorant review or people who CLEARLY do not know what Burnin is, mislead people.

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If you read my last post, I quoted what he stated.

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When it takes that long it almost not ir and this wasnt on the 2013 as a issue..
as a gamer for me this is worrying.
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