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Anyone see the Byd:sign 42" HD plasma at tigerdirect.com? Might be a new record price for a 42" HD plasma. It's 1024 x 768 and I won't mention the price but it's pretty low. Not sure about quality but the contrast says 3000:1. Might want to check it out...

Manufacturer website is www.bydsign.com and I attached a spec sheet below.
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Spec sheet attached:

 

bydisign_4232_specs.pdf 69.7998046875k . file
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Tiger Direct has $125 shipping on plasmas .. not bad.
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Seems like one of the better things about these now-appearing HDTV displays at very low prices is the affect it will have on Panasonic, Pioneer, Sony, etc. If these newer displays from China prove good and reliable, then, of course, prices will have to drop on these mainstream sets. We may see prices under $3000 on 42" on top HD sets sooner than we had hoped.
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The spes on this HDTV plasma seem impressive 300:1 contrast and 1000nits brightness?

Anyone seen how this looks in real life?
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Can't find any reviews of this screen online, but the specs look amazing for the price. I've been tempted by the CompUSA Daewoo 42" EDTV special, but for $500 more you can get this HD plasma. Damn, decisions, decisions... has anyone pulled the trigger on this one yet? I don't want to be the guinea pig. ;)
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Wow, Wow, Wow is all I can say! With the PixelWorks IC technology this could be a very interesting product. I sure hope someone is willing to take the plunge. This could be a killer product for xmas for those looking at ED PDP's (like myself) because of the price difference between ED and HD.

Let's hope someone gives it a shot soon and reports back!

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That company is about 5 miles from my house.. I'll check it out.
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please also note that thread on this forum about a new Dell 42 inch plasma, it is a few hundred more, but i believe dell has a free delivery on this one, dell includes the hd tuner built-in, and this one isn't, so add the price of the hd-tuner as well, and at least you know that dell is going to be there a couple of years from now....

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Can anyone venture a guess as to who makes the glass on this panel?

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It could be LG glass. Take a look at HP's PL4245N, which uses an LG panel:

HP PL4245N 42-Inch "HD" Plasma
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If it's the same glass, that's quite a price difference.
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Yeah, HP joyfully overprices everything, especially at launch.
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On the unit dimensions, can I assume that the 11.3 inch depth is the depth of the base and not the TV? And the color temp is 10K. Hollywood uses 6.5K color temp for movies.

There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots. Me being one of them at times.

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That's the depth of the base, correct. Color temp spec there is probably max, not only.
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Panel is made by SDI (samsung) and uses scalar by Pixalworks. It is HDCP compliant as well.
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so is this the same innards as the dell? someone mentioned samsung/pixelworks in relation to their 4200hd.
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There is a 50" by bydesign on amazon dot com.

Seems they are serious.
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Panel is made by SDI (samsung) and uses scalar by Pixalworks. It is HDCP compliant as well.
How did you know the glass is Samsung? All I can find is the parent company of byDesign is Global Marketing Partners, same as GigaFast.

The review for this at plasmadocs.com is very good (they charge a lot more though).

Even at this low price, I'm nervous about being a guinea pig. I was all gung-ho about getting a Panasonic EDTV 7UY. Then someone had to mention this set throwing a monkey wrench into my thought process. Decisions decisions...

I'm usually very wary of buying anything Made In China, but I have 2 27" flat tube TV's, a Norcent and a Tevion... not one problem with either in over a year.

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I called them up and asked them who made their panel :)
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I looked on a site called Plasmadocs.com since it was mentioned that there was a review on this one there. I noticed that it said for this Byd:sign model there is an extended warranty available from Philips...would that hint at anything? Thought it was interesting anyway.

Edit: guess it doesn't hint at anything...all of the brands they sell have a warranty available from Philips.
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This plasma looks very interesting.. The specs are very attractive especially for the price you can get one for. Even more so now that bave confirmed with them that Samsung SDI makes the panel and it is HDCP compatible.

The table stand that comes with this plasma also looks identical to the one on a Prima brand plasma. I wonder if they are the same manufacturer..

They state that this plasma uses the Pixelworks DNX for motion compensation.. Does this also mean that it uses the intelligent scaling from DNX for 4:3 material to fit the 16:9 screen (center of 4:3 image remains unscaled and sides are stretched to fit the screen)?

I was in the same boat as GnatGoSplat and was about to pull the trigger on a Panny 7UY. Now this plasma shows up and the specs are just too good to ignore.. Although the lack of any user reviews has me a little wary of actually buying one. And I wouldn't trust the plasmadocs.com review too much because the reviews for all three byd:sign plasmas are essentially the same (they just change the specs, sizes, etc).
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Like you said the reviews on that site are pretty much the same wording which is strange, but then again since they're the ones selling and reviewing there's plenty of room for bias. I think the cost isn't much different than the Vizio 42" HD right now. There is a Tiger Direct showroom/outlet store in the Chicago area, but they only have one plasma set up at a time and don't allow you to try a specific one out if you go there. You pretty much have to know what you want, but for this plasma I don't know that you could find one to try out in person. Someone might be willing to take a chance and try it out, though.
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I just called Tiger Direct and it appears they have a warehouse outlet in my city that is open to the public. I will go take a look to see if they have this plasma on display.
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I called them up and asked them who made their panel :)
Now if you can find out who made the Vizio, we could make some comparisons!
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I called the manufacturer and spoke with a guy Jared? Jason, something like that and wrote down all his info at home. Gave me the manufacturer, fcc id # etc..
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I called the manufacturer and spoke with a guy Jared? Jason, something like that and wrote down all his info at home. Gave me the manufacturer, fcc id # etc..
Can I snag that FCC ID #?
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Will check when I get home if I still have it
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When you go to see it, please compare it to an ED Panasonic. ;)

The byD:sign interests me because for me, it's a good $300+ less than the Vizio P42HD. For the Vizio, I'd have to pay $200 freight since they don't have any locally, and nearly 7% sales tax. Since TD isn't local, I wouldn't have to pay tax and S&H is only $150. $300 can buy a nice stand or ATSC tuner with cash to spare, and I will need both those things.

It definitely sounds like it has the same glass as the Samsung HP-P4261. The specs are the same as the Samsung 4th generation panel. Samsungs look pretty good in the stores... tempting. My wife thinks it might be worth the gamble picking this over the ED Panasonic 7UY.

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Help me out with the tuners?

What tuners does the ByDsign include? What about the Vizio? What do most EDTV's and HDTV's have in the way of tuners?

If I am using DirectTV what additional tuner hardware would I need? (I have the basic satellite box)

Also, I wouldnt really compare this set to the 7uy Panny's. Apples and Oranges really. If I was going to get an EDTV (which I may) I will definetly pickup a Zenith for nearly the same price after seeing it in person. The only time I consider this or the Vizio is if I want true hdtv, but dont mind the questionable brand.
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