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The big question: What about subpixel control? The new 8th gen consumers have it but I've yet to see any confirmation on the 8UK's...

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The big question: What about subpixel control? The new 8th gen consumers have it but I've yet to see any confirmation on the 8UK's...
Agreed, this is an important question, though not a deal-breaker for me. The increase in brightness, the 8th-gen glass, and the darker bezel make it worth the $100 or so I expect it to be over the 7UY. Now, if the price difference is $500, I'm going with the 7-series.
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Oh, and looks like they're going to the black, round stand instead of the duck feet! That's an improvement, imo.
Hmmmm, I wonder. I compared the two op manuals.

7UY pedestal stand part numbers: TY-ST05-K, TY-ST07-K
8UK pedestal stand part numbers: TY-ST07-K, TY-ST08-K

I don't know what this means, if anything. :confused:
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The big question: What about subpixel control? The new 8th gen consumers have it but I've yet to see any confirmation on the 8UK's...
I did a search for this in the op manual, and came up with a zero.

But then again, I did the same for the PX500 and also came up with a zero.

Maybe the 8UK brochure will tell. Or maybe the website.

FWIW, the 8UK op manual does mention 3:2 pulldown, and how to turn it on/off. Again, zero for the PX500.
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Thats definitely not an 1/8" bezel. It looks much more like the 7UY than different IMO.

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Sure it is. Look closer at the picture. 1/8†frame wrapped around the glass. Just as the enhanced manual cover pic showed, that I attached earlier..
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Hmmmm, I wonder. I compared the two op manuals.

7UY pedestal stand part numbers: TY-ST05-K, TY-ST07-K
8UK pedestal stand part numbers: TY-ST07-K, TY-ST08-K

I don't know what this means, if anything. :confused:
The TY-ST05K is identical to the TY-ST07K.

I'm still looking for info/pic of ther TY-ST08K.
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So. . . . maybe it's duck feet after all? Or maybe a choice????
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Check the pic on the front of the operators manual. The (only) 1/8th inch bezel was smoke and mirrors.
I guess the bezel is technically 1/8", but in reality the picture does not extend all the way bezel. So there is an 1/8" outer bezel, then an inner bezel, then black glass, then the picture itself.

Any comments from present 7uy - how reflective is the most interior "black" section of glass? The amount of black glass on the 8uk appears to be about double the width of the 7uy model.

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Sure it is. Look closer at the picture. 1/8†frame wrapped around the glass. Just as the enhanced manual cover pic showed, that I attached earlier..
Sorry, but if that's 1/8", then the panel's only about 10" across. Looks more like 3/4" minimum to me, plus the inch or so of black glass.

edit: Brucer, if you lighten up that picture you posted, you'll see quite clearly that there's a dark grey bezel just like on the 7UY, though a little thinner and possibly darker. That's what the "Panasonic" is written on.

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Previous generations the front housing was called the escutcheon. [1st pic]

Here's the G8 in silver [not bad looking, if they offer that]. [2nd pic]
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Sure it is. Look closer at the picture. 1/8†frame wrapped around the glass. Just as the enhanced manual cover pic showed, that I attached earlier..
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I guess the bezel is technically 1/8", but in reality the picture does not extend all the way bezel. So there is an 1/8" outer bezel, then an inner bezel, then black glass, then the picture itself.
Thats the way it looks to me too. Its a bait and switch :p .

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Previous generations the front ‘housing’ was called the ‘escutcheon’. [1st pic]

Here's the G8 in silver [not bad looking, if they offer that]. [2nd pic]
Brucer: Where are you guys finding the 8uk photos? One seemed to have a dark grey / black housing and your picture shows silver (unless the silver is a photoshop edit to highlight the 'escutcheon')


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Exactly, I 'chopped' it to highlight....and since there is two model numbers ending...UKJ and ....USJ [blacK & Silver]
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Okay folks. Here's the pic posted by Panasonic Plasma, allegedly of the PWD8UK, lightened up a little bit. Seems to me this clearly shows:
- Glass with image area surrounded by a black area
- Escutcheon slightly smaller than the 7UY
- Bezel, as in a 45% angle, around the edge of the Escutcheon. $$ to doughnuts that bezel measures 1/8".

Actually looks pretty cool... though still not a major departure from the 7UY.
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No, There is no 45 degree bevel, just bad lighting in the photo.

This image is clearly defined in both my attachments as well as the owners manual

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPER...H37PWD8UKJ.PDF

In Adobe, place your magnifier on the image in the Upper Left Corner and blow it up full size, it is an accurate and clear representation of the Photo provided by user Panasonic Plasma
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Brucer, have you seen it in person? Because none of these images are "clearly defined" enough to be unambiguous, imo. I think I see a bevelled edge, no matter how much I blow it up, but it could be a lighter trim, or a trick of the lighting. Guess we'll have to wait for better pics, or a live viewing. Not that I'll lose any sleep over it.

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- Glass with image area surrounded by a black area
- Escutcheon slightly smaller than the 7UY
- Bezel, as in a 45% angle, around the edge of the Escutcheon. $$ to doughnuts that bezel measures 1/8". ;)

Actually looks pretty cool... though still not a major departure from the 7UY.
If you zoom in using adobe acrobat on the manual, you can see the structure better than the picture. You can also compare to the 7uy (like bruzzi's images are from the manuals, you can zoom in on the manuals themselves).

Probably need to wait until someone sees in person - but I am curious if the larger area immediately surrounding the glass picture is also "glass" and therefore has the same reflective properties as the image portion of the tv - or if it actually something covering the glass and therefore more of a matte finish.

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What's the resolution for the 8 series?
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I haven't been following your consumer Panny thread(s) closely, but why is the industrial's lack of a cable card a "deal breaker" for you? Are you trying to move away from having any other components in your system except your DVD player/HTPC/etc.?
Exactly. If you’re married to a CATV provider…, which I am at least for the short-term, you will discover that there is a noticeable improvement in picture quality when removing an external STB from your home-theater mix. I’ve used a number of different SA STBs for the past four years but nothing (e.g. STB --> component or HDMI) compares to the picture my PDP renders once I had a CableCARD installed.

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We all have deal breakers based on our individual needs (add in WAF and life is really difficult). I personally can't get over the Panny consumer lack of per input memory settings and no 3:2 pulldown.

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I'll keep the commercial display as I prefer the DVR. The cable card is of no use to me without recording capablity. HD looks great through the 6412 I have and identical to OTA. I really do not care about how SD looks. I have a 50 &Uy and pout my 42" PWD4UY in the bedroom. I have small Boston Acoutics on a shelf under the plasma. They work great and you don't even see that they are there.
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"I’m concerned about what I’m going to do with a 50†panel (5) years down the road after I buy my 65†SED TV."

Let's hope that 7x" SEDs are available long before you can afford one (like, say... 2007, when I want to get one :) ).

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What's the resolution for the 8 series?
The two announced so far (TH37PWD8UK and TH42PWD8UK) are ED, 852x480.

Which you would know if you'd done even a tiny bit of research, like reading the press release linked in the first post of this thread.

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FINALLY...

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The two announced so far (TH37PWD8UK and TH42PWD8UK) are SD, 852x480.

Which you would know if you'd done even a tiny bit of research, like reading the press release linked in the first post of this thread.
Didn't you mean ED? SD means standard definition.
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The two announced so far (TH37PWD8UK and TH42PWD8UK) are SD, 852x480.

Which you would know if you'd done even a tiny bit of research, like reading the press release linked in the first post of this thread.
It amazes me that there are pricks like you that even attempt to respond to my post.

The first post of this thread doesn't list the resolutions for the models. The link in the first post was not a direct link to the press release that mentions the resolution of the first two models shown. Before you attempt to act like a smart ass, make sure you get things straight before you make some BS about the first post having all the information I need :rolleyes:.
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ALL Panny commercial plasmas that are designated PWD are ED panels. The HD panels carry the designation PHD.
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Didn't you mean ED? SD means standard definition.
Yup; fixed now. Sorry about that.

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After all the semi-positive stuff I've read so far, I went back and re-read the "black-strobing" thread here, and wonder if Panasonic has fixed it with the 8UK. Hope so.

But then, there's always some new bug that creeps in to a new model run, seems like. Guess I'm feeling sorta pessimistic this morning.
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I kind of feel like plasma evolution (at least with Panasonic) is really slowing. There's practically no difference between the 7UY and the 8UK.

Going from 5UY to 6UY you got more colors, greysteps, and brightness. More colors and greysteps going from 6UY to 7UY as well.

But 7UY to 8UK seems like pretty much the same panel.

Honestly though, these plasmas are good enough already. The main "next" thing will probably be 1920x1080 resolution.
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