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post #31 of 1285 Old 09-26-2005, 06:58 PM
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If you bought a plasma, I'd think you'd be able to handle the cost of the electricity it uses.

Come pay my bill then. There are many things I can afford to do, but choose not to when they can be done in a more productive manner. This break in option is great for some, but for me, Ill watch full zoom TV for a few weeks, and my TV will be just fine.
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When I get home from work tonight Ill throw together a quick guide to burning the SVCD with Nero...
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Would it be possible to get a DVD version of this?

Thanks in advance
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Welcome to the forums, cap10.

A DVD version of something similar can be found at:
http://www.dvdshrink.info/goodies.php#run-in

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Thanks,

That did the trick

I've been a long time lurker but I hope to contribute more soon.

I have a pre-order on a Panasonic TH-50PHD8UK and plan to post my impressions.
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Glad to be of help.

Keep us posted.

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I'm a newbie at this but do I need the Nero software to burn this??? also, is there a place where I can just buy a copy of this?? the cost of the software is probably a bit more expensive.
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I'm a newbie at this but do I need the Nero software to burn this??? also, is there a place where I can just buy a copy of this?? the cost of the software is probably a bit more expensive.

tiger.... I think you need Nero to burn evangelos SVCD since it is in Nero's format. But you can burn the DVD referenced earlier (http://www.dvdshrink.info/goodies.php#run-in) with any burning software, assuming you have a DVD writer.

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tiger3p, you could use the 30-day trial version of Nero Burning ROM, available at http://www.nero.com

The following guide will show you how to burn the (DVD-Video compliant) files.
http://www.dvdshrink.info/nero-video.php
It was made with an older version of Nero, but the principle is the same.

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I tried various links for nero download and the demo copy were all expired...
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Tiger,
My guess is you've already used a trial version of nero and your pc knows it. That info I believe is in your windows registry but the other linked file pstrisik mentioned should work.
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tiger3p, I've added an ISO image version of the DVD.
Unzip it and burn it with DVD Decrypter ("Mode >> ISO write").

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Any of you guys use my Breakin DVD? Just curious to hear if you all had as good results as me

My Pio 5050HD plasma now has over 500 hours on it and is working beautifully!

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tiger3p, I've added an ISO image version of the DVD.
Unzip it and burn it with DVD Decrypter ("Mode >> ISO write").

Hey ddlooping! I didn't realize that was your shrink site. I downloaded and use the "Insert next disk" files. Thanks for that and all of the helpful info and links you provide.

I made up a couple of stills for shrink for myself that you are welcome to add to your "goodies" if you like (please make anonymous if you do).
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Any of you guys use my Breakin DVD? Just curious to hear if you all had as good results as me

My Pio 5050HD plasma now has over 500 hours on it and is working beautifully!

-Evangelo2

Hi Evangelo2.... I've got your Breakin SVCD burned and ready to spin as soon as my 1130 comes in.

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I'm also waiting. My pl5000n should be delivered wed-fri. I say I can't wait but what I can't wait for is to be done with everything around here so I can enjoy it and fall asleep on the coach but OH no burn-in, can't do that lol
After ISF burn-in testing done not long ago I'm wondering now why I need to do a breakin since they tortured them and retention went away after regular viewing. I hope I don't need to read that whole burn-in sticky again. Is breakin just for the anal now? Just checking if I am
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Excellent. Saves me from having to make one of these myself, thanks.
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Hey ddlooping! I didn't realize that was your shrink site. I downloaded and use the "Insert next disk" files. Thanks for that and all of the helpful info and links you provide.

No problem, glad to be of help.
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I made up a couple of stills for shrink for myself that you are welcome to add to your "goodies" if you like (please make anonymous if you do).

Thanks, I might just do that.

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Any of you guys use my Breakin DVD? Just curious to hear if you all had as good results as me

My Pio 5050HD plasma now has over 500 hours on it and is working beautifully!

-Evangelo2


Evangelo2 - I finally managed to burn your SVCD and played it for 100 hours straight on my new TH-50PHD8UK to take off the "hot pixel edge" - thanks!!!

Worked very well. Since them I watched pretty much all the baseball games on FOX in HD and was a little worried about the score bar in the top part of the image burning in - but no problem whatsoever.

I now watch pretty much everything; and just try to mix it up HD/SD/DVDs.
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Hey, glad it worked out for you wojtek.

I got some image retention for the first time the other day after hooking up my new HR10-250 DirecTiVo to the Pio 5050HD. The bright yellow "Now Playing" words on the top of the now playing list were visible on a screen with no input signal. That went away by the time I got done with Batman Begins (which was excellent).

I ran the break in DVD the next day for 13 hours, just in case I think that's it for me, I am over 500 hours and it is time for me to retire the breakin DVD for future plasmas

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I'm getting my first plasma it should arrive tomorrow or monday is everyone sure this will work and not screw up my tv. I don't what to wreck something so darn expensive.
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Welcome to the forums, cap10.

A DVD version of something similar can be found at:
http://www.dvdshrink.info/goodies.php#run-in

Also what about this one?
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I don't see any reason why it would screw-up your tv.
I don't want to be held responsible if it does though.

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I'm getting my first plasma it should arrive tomorrow or monday is everyone sure this will work and not screw up my tv. I don't what to wreck something so darn expensive.

TorturEd - hate to be blunt, but nothing risked, nothing gained, right?

You don't have to use it - if you feel uncertain, just watch regular material (TV, DVD, etc) stretched to fill the screen.

I personally feel that Evangelo2's SVCD is a better option (less babysitting), but to each his own.

All I can say that the SVCD worked on my brandy-new Panny TH-50PHD8UK for 100 hours of play.
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TorturEd,
No gaurantee for anything but it has worked 100% fine on my Pioneer 50" Plasma. Can something go wrong? I guess its possible your DVD player can et screwed up adn display some kind of distorted static image on the screen. That could be bad but that is the only thing I can think of that can go wrong with this. I have a pretty well built DVD player (Pio DVD-59AVi) so I wasn't really concerned about that.
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I'm getting my first plasma it should arrive tomorrow or monday is everyone sure this will work and not screw up my tv. I don't what to wreck something so darn expensive.

I won't hurt anything. And on the other hand it probably doens't help anything either. Plasma phosphors decay over time when they are energized (being used). The decay the fastest when new and the decay rate is somewhat asymtotic (I think that's the correct word - diminishes rapidly at first then very slowly over time). Playing a special full screen pattern(s) don't speed things up. In fact some may argue that "breaking in" the plasma differently than you watch it isn't the correct thing to do. Although you'll never be able to prove anything either way. Sorta like the "breaking in a car engine debate". Anyway, plasmas aren't as fragile as some people think, especially today. But it's your money and do as you see fit and makes you comfortable. But speaking from experience, watching movies with black bars and 4:3 TV during the first 100 hours does not cause burn-in. You can't do it all day, but a couple hours or so at a time followed by the same at full screen will work just fine.

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I won't hurt anything. And on the other hand it probably doens't help anything either. Plasma phosphors decay over time when they are energized (being used). The decay the fastest when new and the decay rate is somewhat asymtotic (I think that's the correct word - diminishes rapidly at first then very slowly over time). Playing a special full screen pattern(s) don't speed things up. In fact some may argue that "breaking in" the plasma differently than you watch it isn't the correct thing to do. Although you'll never be able to prove anything either way. Sorta like the "breaking in a car engine debate". Anyway, plasmas aren't as fragile as some people think, especially today. But it's your money and do as you see fit and makes you comfortable. But speaking from experience, watching movies with black bars and 4:3 TV during the first 100 hours does not cause burn-in. You can't do it all day, but a couple hours or so at a time followed by the same at full screen will work just fine.

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I don't think it's only to speed things up, it's also to do it evenly.

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I won't hurt anything. And on the other hand it probably doens't help anything either. Plasma phosphors decay over time when they are energized (being used). The decay the fastest when new and the decay rate is somewhat asymtotic (I think that's the correct word - diminishes rapidly at first then very slowly over time). Playing a special full screen pattern(s) don't speed things up. In fact some may argue that "breaking in" the plasma differently than you watch it isn't the correct thing to do. Although you'll never be able to prove anything either way. Sorta like the "breaking in a car engine debate". Anyway, plasmas aren't as fragile as some people think, especially today. But it's your money and do as you see fit and makes you comfortable. But speaking from experience, watching movies with black bars and 4:3 TV during the first 100 hours does not cause burn-in. You can't do it all day, but a couple hours or so at a time followed by the same at full screen will work just fine.

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If indeed the phosphors are the "hottest" when new (and also burn-in more easily if static patterns or bars are displayed during that time), then using something like Evangelo2's SVCD for the first 100 hours to take off the edge makes sense to me. You can run it all night to log the Panasonic-recommended 100 hours quicker.

Beats watching stretched TV with its permanent logos or full-creen DVDs 2 hours at a time.
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That was really the main purpose of making this thing. I am not a big fan fo stretching 4:3 out. Zoom is a little better (or Just mode for the panny folks) but I still would rather just watch with side gray bars.

Now I don't know how much I believed the whole 100 hour breakin rule but with a 4500 dollar TV I was not taking any big chances. This breakin DVD ages the phosphours evenly and rotates the colors as well to at least help simulate the idea of watching regular TV and lighting the different colors on the screen.

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Burn-in is one thing, but un-even phosphor wear is another.

This "Break-in Method" will not prevent that.

The user must still be prudent with their viewing habits, a little bit of this and a little bit of that.

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