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I think that the 1080p XBR will be out before september. What is the point of selling a Blue-Ray player if they do not have a display that matches it resolution. As far is I know Samsungs LN-S4696D will be out in late June and Sony is using the same panels as Samsung.
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we have no prices, dates, or even what sizes for the usa yet. its pretty much rumors and guessing now. we all have to wait until sony shows something on the sony news site

the LN-S4696D and the 40 inch version is set for august release, as shown in a samsung press release.
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I'm pretty much over waiting for Sony to do something. I think I'll just buy the Pioneer Elite Pro and start enjoying it now. I've been waiting for these new Sonys for months. Any Sony employees lurking here? How about a little info for people who are trying to be your customers? Is your marketing department completely broken?
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. . . Is your marketing department completely broken?

I'm antsy too- been waiting more than a couple of years for HD to develop specs for my tastes. But I suspect it's a delicate matter for companies to actively promote future stock while hoping to clear inventories of current models. (At least I hope that's the reason for the dearth of info versus working bugs out of the design.) Must be a delicate business announcing new product in such a dynamically changing industry.

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I'm antsy too- been waiting more than a couple of years for HD to develop specs for my tastes. But I suspect it's a delicate matter for companies to actively promote future stock while hoping to clear inventories of current models. (At least I hope that's the reason for the dearth of info versus working bugs out of the design.) Must be a delicate business announcing new product in such a dynamically changing industry.

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Sony seems to only give a month or two worth of delay from the announcement of new models to when they actually ship so we probably won't hear about them until it is almost time to go. Plus, as Damol1 mentioned, with Sony releasing their Blu-Ray players it doesn't seem fitting that they would hold back their 1080p displays for any signioficant length of time following the Blu-Ray launch. People will want a 1080p TV to complement their 1080p player and Sony had better have a product out there lest these people be driven to Sharp or Samsung.
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I'll be having my 46" X series installed 4/9. I'm in Tokyo, and the price was ¥500,000 or roughly $4255 at today's spot level. My dealer says they have been selling quite well. He was trying to push me on the Panny 65" but it was way too big for my wall. Anyways, will let you all know how it is!
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Greetings. I attended the Sony show at Ceasar's a few weeks ago. If you have any questions, fire away....

I can tell you that the KDL-46S2000 looks terrific and I'm buying one personally when it releases in late April/early May.

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Greetings. I attended the Sony show at Ceasar's a few weeks ago. If you have any questions, fire away...BJ

I'm sure I'm not the only follower of this thread interested in any news of the new Bravia X series (46" in my case), especially when (US), how much and which sizes.
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I'm sure I'm not the only follower of this thread interested in any news of the new Bravia X series (46" in my case), especially when (US), how much and which sizes.
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Same here....46" X series.

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Okay....I've got three spec sheets from Sony of the three new 46" LCD TV's they're introducing in the next few months.

What info do you want? Be specific....

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Okay....I've got three spec sheets from Sony of the three new 46" LCD TV's they're introducing in the next few months.

What info do you want? Be specific....

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46" V series XBR: Response Time & # of HDMI inputs, cablecard version?

46" X series - Response time, and Cablecard version?

Both: list price

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Okay....I've got three spec sheets from Sony of the three new 46" LCD TV's they're introducing in the next few months.

What info do you want? Be specific....

BJ

Re: 46" X Series: Is the spec sheet for the US model? Is it 1080p? Does it mention flourescent backlighting?

Thank you!
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46" V series XBR: Response Time & # of HDMI inputs, cablecard version?

46" X series - Response time, and Cablecard version?

Both: list price

Thanks!

First off, there are three models:

KDL-46S2000 $3995
KDL-46V2000 Price TBD
KDLX-X46XBR2 Price TBD

On response time: Not listed on these prelim sheets; 8ms is listed on the S.

On the V series, it's not listed as an XBR model, but it is 1080p. 1920x1080. Has 2 HDMI inputs.

On the X series: 1080p. 1920x1080. Has 2 HDMI inputs.

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Re: 46" X Series: Is the spec sheet for the US model? Is it 1080p? Does it mention flourescent backlighting?

Thank you!

Yes, US model.

Both the V and the X are 1080p. 1920x1080. Have 2 HDMI inputs.

Both the V and the X mention "Live Color Creation Backlight" (WCG-CCFL).

The S is 1366x768 and has 1 HDMI input.

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On the V series, it's not listed as an XBR model, but it is 1080p. 1920x1080. Has 2 HDMI inputs.

On the X series: 1080p. 1920x1080. Has 2 HDMI inputs.

BJ

Wow. I really want an XBR model.I know, stupid hang-up, but that's how I feel. I hope the XBR2 looks like this year's XBR. If the V is 1080p, I wonder what the differences could possibly be. I don't like the silver color of the Japanese X model. Love the look of the current XBR. Any pic's you could look at to tell?
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Wow. I really want an XBR model.I know, stupid hang-up, but that's how I feel. I hope the XBR2 looks like this year's XBR. If the V is 1080p, I wonder what the differences could possibly be. I don't like the silver color of the Japanese X model. Love the look of the current XBR. Any pic's you could look at to tell?

No photos, but the V has a "space saving bottom speaker design" and the X has a "floating glass design".

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Any information on the 1080p 40inch?

CROPPED < OAR < OPEN MATTE -- OOOOH I SAID IT!
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It really sounds like the V is the XBR 'like' 46 inch beaut. The big surprise it that I didn't think the V would be 1080p, this is great news.
So...the V has the look I love (I believe) the specs I adore (1080p) and 2 x HDMI.

Hmm...this leads me to ask, what are the technical differences between the V and X then? I initally thought Sony were holding onto the 1080p for he X model, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Could it be that the only differnence between the V and X is in the packaging? Is that why the X is being called the XBR2, as you detail?

Lots of questions...any comments?

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Could it be that the only differnence between the V and X is in the packaging? Is that why the X is being called the XBR2, as you detail?
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Didn't Sony at one time have RP XBR's and XBR2's at the same time? Maybe that's the case this time? (Fingers crossed).

I'll pad my wish a little - maybe XBR2 adds PIP and a DVI, and anything else I don't care about, while the XBR has equal specs otherwise, and the better design?
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I do not mean to question you, but are you sure about reading that the V will be 1080p?

I did a quick google on the model number you sent and a european website lists only the X as having 1080p.

I know they could change things for the US market, but just thought I would mention it anyway.

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The V-series announced early in March in Europe is not 1080p. Also, the X series announced was an X2000 versus the XBR.

Would Sony tweak models this much for the US market? I've seen the S2000 in stores already but no V2000's. Maybe they've reevaluated the market in terms of demand for 1080p?

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I do not mean to question you, but are you sure about reading that the V will be 1080p?

I did a quick google on the model number you sent and a european website lists only the X as having 1080p.

I know they could change things for the US market, but just thought I would mention it anyway.

Cheers,
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The V sheet mentions 1080p three times, so methinks its meant to be there.

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Any information on the 1080p 40inch?

Didn't get ahold of 40 inch info. Sorry.

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So what then, are the major technical differences between the V and X, in your opinion, looking at the spec sheets side by side?

Thanks,
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It really sounds like the V is the XBR 'like' 46 inch beaut. The big surprise it that I didn't think the V would be 1080p, this is great news.
So...the V has the look I love (I believe) the specs I adore (1080p) and 2 x HDMI.

Hmm...this leads me to ask, what are the technical differences between the V and X then? I initally thought Sony were holding onto the 1080p for he X model, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Could it be that the only differnence between the V and X is in the packaging? Is that why the X is being called the XBR2, as you detail?

Lots of questions...any comments?

Cheers,
Eric

Here are the areas of differentiation as far as I can tell from the info:

V is Bravia Engine. X is Bravia Engine Pro.

HDMI Inputs....both list 2, but the X says 1080p whereas the V does not. The V does say 1080p in regards to the panel, but suspiciously does not say 1080p regarding the HDMI inputs.

V has BBE Audio. X has SRS TruSurround.

Those are the differences. The commonaltities are:

Backlight, ATSC Tuner, Picture Freeze, Sleep Timer, PC Input (1), Component Video (2), S Video (2), Composite Video (3).

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Folks....now some questions for you:

I was leaning towards the S, but can someone let me know why I would spend the extra money on the V or the X?

How important is that specific type of CCFL backlighting?

If I do not have any need for 1080p, is there a downside to having 1920x1080 vs the S's 1366x768? Or does 1920x1080 look better even if I have no 'p' going into it?

Thanks.

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Thanks for the great info.

Sounds like the V might not be able to take an 1080p input signal, say from a Blu-ray device or the like?

Bravia Engine vs. Bravia Engine Pro: Wonder what the difs are if both are 1080p?

I still like the V series and if it can match the pq of the current crop of XBR's and add 1080p, I'll be a happy camper

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I'm with you, Eric - if that X was black though...

Do you think the bottom speaker cloth on the V's will get all dusty and cruddy? Might be an advantage of the all-plastic X setup.
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the X has a "floating glass design".

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Me like.....

Thanks for all the great information!
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Me like.....

Thanks for all the great information!

Can you guys answer my questions now.....please?

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