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post #10411 of 12899 Old 07-08-2014, 09:16 AM
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While there will be an OLED, from what I have heard, I doubt that it will be the 77" 4K. It will probably only be the new 55 from LG.
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The date for the Value Electronics shootout has been pushed back to August 16-17. It will include "at least one OLED model".

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/20...d-UHDTVs.shtml
Good you know I'm on the other left coast ( calif) so I will be watching it on a web stream ......unfortunately my Gulfstream 5 is going in to the MRO for it's annual A & P/ M & R just about then!.
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First one I will miss in years. I will try to watch it later when I return from vacation. If I have to miss one, this is probably the one to miss.
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Is OLED going all curved? Where there be any Flat OLED produced in 2015?
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Is OLED going all curved? Where there be any Flat OLED produced in 2015?
LG will be producing their bend-able OLED sets that go from curved to flat with at touch from the remote. I guess it's the closest thing to a flat we are going to get. Gas anyone heard that curved OLED panels are easier to fabricate? Does that make sense at all?
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LG will be producing their bend-able OLED sets that go from curved to flat with at touch from the remote. I guess it's the closest thing to a flat we are going to get. Gas anyone heard that curved OLED panels are easier to fabricate? Does that make sense at all?
55" LG OLED Gallery is FLAT, has been available since April, and you can mount it without the Soundframe.
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55" LG OLED Gallery is FLAT, has been available since April, and you can mount it without the Soundframe.
Alas, 55" is the only available size.
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LG will be producing their bend-able OLED sets that go from curved to flat with at touch from the remote. I guess it's the closest thing to a flat we are going to get. Gas anyone heard that curved OLED panels are easier to fabricate? Does that make sense at all?
My understanding from an inside Kateeva source is that all panels are manufactured flat and any extra effort to curve them is for marketing purposes.
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Your insider is 100% correct on both counts.
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My understanding from an inside Kateeva source is that all panels are manufactured flat and any extra effort to curve them is for marketing purposes.
makes sense
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First one I will miss in years. I will try to watch it later when I return from vacation. If I have to miss one, this is probably the one to miss.
I'm not sure exactly when I will watch it but I will (probably cheat also and find the results right away like last year)
not to mention they will be all over the forums here anyway as soon as the results are known !
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Your insider is 100% correct on both counts.
Of course he/she is.
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While there will be an OLED, from what I have heard, I doubt that it will be the 77" 4K. It will probably only be the new 55 from LG.
I think the 77" 4k OLED is actually coming in about 3 months IMO. Feel free to check my recent posting at the below thread page for more great info:

LG 77” Curved UHD OLED at CES 2014

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JWhip was referencing what will be present at the Value Electronics shootout in a little over a month, at which time the 77" panel will still be almost 2 months away from release.
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Curvy news dead, it's all about rolling now: Giant rollables on the horizon
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And notice the talk of "transparent" TV. What is that??? LG to Develop 60″+ Flexible, Transparent 4K OLED TV by 2017
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The LG quote, notably, talks of rollable panels -- not rollable TVs.

The utility of the former is completely clear: You wrap panels around things that aren't flat, that's got a lot of commercial (and art?) uses.

The utility of the latter remains non-existent. The market for people who want to sit and wait for a TV to unfurl -- especially one that's as small as 60 inches -- when you can otherwise just have it go on is incomprehensibly small. Especially since this mythic TV would need an encasement that still hangs on the wall.

On the other hand, the transparent design has interesting lifestyle implications. If you coupled it with a second active layer behind it that wasn't transparent when on, you could have a TV that would disappear into the wall when off. Turn it on, the backing layer goes black, the OLED goes on and the TV magically appears.

The uses for transparent in HUDs, displays over mirrors, and numerous other applications are very real. They will make poor TVs unless they can be coupled with a second layer because the magic contrast of OLED goes away without the backing. But that doesn't render them less useful for a lot of other things.

Rollable displays have the same reality vis a vis TVs. It doesn't remove other use cases. And, for what it's worth, a fascinating use case for a high-flex OLED is readily clear in our mobile world. If you could "unfold" your device to double the display and then return the "top half" when not in use and do this seamlessly, reliably with a thin rigid backing and a clever hinge, you could double mobile display area on an ad hoc basis when you need it. That's powerful as smartphones, phablets and tablets become the primary digital tools.

With HDMI cables, if you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. Also, while anecdote is the "singular of data" your personal anecdote isn't data. When you conflate your anecdote with data and then decide someone else's anecdote isn't data, you earn a place on my ignore list.
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And notice the talk of "transparent" TV. What is that??? LG to Develop 60″+ Flexible, Transparent 4K OLED TV by 2017
Transparent Porn the lastest thing .................... "you can't see it! "
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And notice the talk of "transparent" TV. What is that??? LG to Develop 60″+ Flexible, Transparent 4K OLED TV by 2017
Athletes and celebs will be wrapping their Slades and Lambo's wit them
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For home use, a rollable display could be very desirable at large size 100"+
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For home use, a rollable display could be very desirable at large size 100"+
+ 1 good idea lets fair use patent it and make LG give us some for the first royalty payments !
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For home use, a rollable display could be very desirable at large size 100"+
It could be marginally desirable in that size. I suspect the global market would still be below 1 million units annually.

I also believe the cost would be astronomical for at least the next decade, even compared to a flat version.

With HDMI cables, if you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. Also, while anecdote is the "singular of data" your personal anecdote isn't data. When you conflate your anecdote with data and then decide someone else's anecdote isn't data, you earn a place on my ignore list.
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Another future app is for rollable tunable wallpaper displays, doubling as a heating system.
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For now we must do with rollable Toilet paper.
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For now we must do with rollable Toilet paper.
You will need lots of this to buy one ! maybe even one of these !
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Transparent Porn the lastest thing .................... "you can't see it! "
If you make it, they will come
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For now we must do with rollable Toilet paper.
I am still reeling from the fact that it's come down to the acme of absurdity i.e curved TV. The people ever since the cinema's invention were trying to make cinema's screen flat, however pincushion effect wouldn't let "the" flat screen happen. The curved screen is the most absurd and F***ed-up thing to ever happen to a TV.
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Rollable transparent porn .................... you can't see it but at the same time you can roll it up and put it in the closet or under your bed in a hurry if someone walks in on you eyeing the Invisible Woman getting busy with the Invisibe Man
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