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tubetwister's Avatar tubetwister 07:46 PM 07-17-2014
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No way am I eating any stinking plastic.
what about scratch resistance ?

stas3098's Avatar stas3098 03:58 AM 07-18-2014
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what about scratch resistance ?
This should you give some idea about scratch resistance of plastic
http://www.ideaconnection.com/new-in...ass-06537.html
tubetwister's Avatar tubetwister 04:03 AM 07-18-2014
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This should you give some idea about scratch resistance of plastic
http://www.ideaconnection.com/new-in...ass-06537.html
Wow that's a lot harder at 9H than the typical ~ 2H - 3H of an LCD panel !

they could use it on a new eye phone ☺☺
Yappadappadu's Avatar Yappadappadu 06:05 AM 07-18-2014
@stas : I know that this is OT, but loving cats I have to know if you have link to a bigger version of your avatar.
stas3098's Avatar stas3098 07:48 AM 07-18-2014
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@stas : I know that this is OT, but loving cats I have to know if you have link to a bigger version of your avatar.
Here it is in the best quality I have.
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tubetwister's Avatar tubetwister 04:26 PM 07-18-2014
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Here it is in the best quality I have.
pretty resourceful cat there ha ha
HomerJau's Avatar HomerJau 07:26 PM 07-19-2014
I was talking to a Samsung employee who was showing off Samsung 2014 TVs at a big local retailer here and he said Samsung will have new OLEDs coming out 'in the near future'. Not sure if he was full of BS but he seemed confident about the statement. I didn't drill him on it or ask for more info though.
fafrd's Avatar fafrd 08:34 PM 07-19-2014
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I was talking to a Samsung employee who was showing off Samsung 2014 TVs at a big local retailer here and he said Samsung will have new OLEDs coming out 'in the near future'. Not sure if he was full of BS but he seemed confident about the statement. I didn't drill him on it or ask for more info though.

I had a guy at the new Magnolia in my local Best Buy show of the Sony 65X950 and tell me that Sony was coming out with a version that would have 'one LED behind each individual pixel' by next year. When I pressed him on how unlikely that was and he was probably talking about some form of OLED rather than an LED/LCD he doubled down and told me that he was certain it was not OLED and was an LCD with improved LED 1:1 backlight.


These poor sales guys are trained to always appear confident but unfortunately they often are told the wrong thing or come out with the incorrect understanding.
barth2k's Avatar barth2k 12:14 PM 07-20-2014
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I had a guy at the new Magnolia in my local Best Buy show of the Sony 65X950 and tell me that Sony was coming out with a version that would have 'one LED behind each individual pixel' by next year. When I pressed him on how unlikely that was and he was probably talking about some form of OLED rather than an LED/LCD he doubled down and told me that he was certain it was not OLED and was an LCD with improved LED 1:1 backlight.

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It's the matrix display!
tgm1024's Avatar tgm1024 03:42 PM 07-20-2014
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I had a guy at the new Magnolia in my local Best Buy show of the Sony 65X950 and tell me that Sony was coming out with a version that would have 'one LED behind each individual pixel' by next year. When I pressed him on how unlikely that was and he was probably talking about some form of OLED rather than an LED/LCD he doubled down and told me that he was certain it was not OLED and was an LCD with improved LED 1:1 backlight.

These poor sales guys are trained to always appear confident but unfortunately they often are told the wrong thing or come out with the incorrect understanding.
I agree, I no longer blame these guys. Look at how difficult it is for US to get things straight sometimes based on how the misinformation gets swirled around. Remember LG's ridiculous claim that passive 3D allows you to view 3D laying down? (Oye).

Regarding the guy at your BB/Mag: further in his defense I must state that the first few iterations I took in reading what the QD version of Sony's Triluminus offerings really seemed to me to be stating just that----a single QD emitter behind every LCD pixel. Threw me for a short time....some of their early diagrams I believe to be deceiving.
Rudy1's Avatar Rudy1 02:37 PM 07-22-2014
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Rich Peterson's Avatar Rich Peterson 03:11 PM 07-22-2014
I thought this was an interesting article which suggests ink-jet printing of OLEDs is moving forward. The implication of 2015 is for smaller displays but in other articles Kateeva has suggested TV-sized panel production in 2016.

Inkjet printing of OLEDs on track for 2015

http://www.plusplasticelectronics.co...15-116461.aspx

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What remains to be seen is whether Yieldjet can indeed achieve the kind of mass-production performance standards that will encourage consumer electronics firms to invest further. If it proves itself as a deposition process for commercial-scale, thin-film encapsulation, the ability to then progress to glass-free screens for smartphones, tablets and wearables will likely be compelling enough to see commercial use to Kateeva's 2015 timescale.

rogo's Avatar rogo 06:03 PM 07-23-2014
I'm a big fan of Kateeva, but I wish that piece contained more news and less old info.

Good to see they are ramping up production capabilities for the YieldJet stuff, but that's several steps away from seeing products based on it.
htwaits's Avatar htwaits 06:29 PM 07-23-2014
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I'm a big fan of Kateeva, ...
Yea!!!
ynotgoal's Avatar ynotgoal 08:15 PM 07-23-2014
LGCanada hosted an LGHolidays event and tweeted photos of the upcoming 55" and 77" OLED TVs and pegged the price of the 77" at $27k Canadian ($25k US).

https://twitter.com/alexbdavies/stat...85235241472001

https://twitter.com/alexbdavies/stat...82857486352384
Yappadappadu's Avatar Yappadappadu 08:38 PM 07-23-2014
There's a photo of a TV that looks exactly like the EA9800. I hope that's really just the old model and not the new 55EC9300 Full HD OLED TV. I don't like the stand.
remush's Avatar remush 09:38 PM 07-23-2014
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There's a photo of a TV that looks exactly like the EA9800. I hope that's really just the old model and not the new 55EC9300 Full HD OLED TV. I don't like the stand.
It looks like the EA9700, which replaced the EA9800 in Canada this year, so technically its a 2014 model here but the specs are the same as the EA9800, minus the bottom speakers.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxv...it?usp=sharing
HomerJau's Avatar HomerJau 04:25 AM 07-24-2014
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LGCanada hosted an LGHolidays event and tweeted photos of the upcoming 55" and 77" OLED TVs and pegged the price of the 77" at $27k Canadian ($25k US).
I was putting off my next purchase until this pricing was known. I was hoping for around 10k. I think I'll buy a 65" LED and wait another couple of years...
ynotgoal's Avatar ynotgoal 11:20 AM 07-24-2014
For videophiles, the highlight had to be three new OLED TVs. The price for this technology is becoming much less prohibitive. LG launched a curved 55" OLED HDTV in Canada last October for $11,000. It is now rolling out a second-generation 55-incher for $5,000. The panels are the same, but the new model has down-firing speakers instead of front-firing film speakers.

The price drop is the result of improving yields on OLED displays, said Kevin Andrews, Senior Brand Marketing Manager for LG Canada's Home Entertainment Division (shown in picture at top of story, along with Brand Marketing Manager Greg Belina). "So far, we've been able to meet demand," Andrews added. "We've had no supply constraints."

Coming in about six weeks is a wall-mountable 55" OLED television, for $8,000. The supplied hanging mount has two magnetic clasps that let the display swing out from the wall for making connections. As the photo at right shows, the OLED TV is literally pencil-thin (it's actually thicker than Belina's pen!)

Both 55-inchers are HD displays, with 1,920x1,080-pixel resolution. Coming late in the year (in time for the holiday season, Andrews says) is the curved 77" OLED 4K TV that LG first showed at CES back in January. It will carry a $27,000 price tag, and will sport LG's new webOS-based smart-TV platform. As expected, all three OLED displays had gorgeous pictures, with anthracite-deep blacks and brilliant colours.

http://www.wifihifi.ca/LatestNewsHea...tLaunches.html


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I was putting off my next purchase until this pricing was known. I was hoping for around 10k. I think I'll buy a 65" LED and wait another couple of years...
The 65" OLED might be around 10k if you're looking for something that size. Otherwise prices will certainly be lower by end of next year.
tgm1024's Avatar tgm1024 11:39 AM 07-24-2014
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(it's actually thicker than Belina's pen!)
Bah, all my TVs over the years have been thicker than my pens.
Stereodude's Avatar Stereodude 12:44 PM 07-24-2014
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Bah, all my TVs over the years have been thicker than my pens.
Judging from the picture I'm pretty sure they meant thinner.
wco81's Avatar wco81 05:39 PM 07-24-2014
$10k or $27k, how long will these displays last before the half life of the display is reached and certain colors are no longer as bright as they used to be?
slacker711's Avatar slacker711 05:58 PM 07-24-2014
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LGCanada hosted an LGHolidays event and tweeted photos of the upcoming 55" and 77" OLED TVs and pegged the price of the 77" at $27k Canadian ($25k US).

https://twitter.com/alexbdavies/stat...85235241472001

https://twitter.com/alexbdavies/stat...82857486352384
If the 65" version has the same price ratio from the UK to the US, it would be $7500.

The price premium for the 77" version is insane.
dsinger's Avatar dsinger 06:16 AM 07-25-2014
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$10k or $27k, how long will these displays last before the half life of the display is reached and certain colors are no longer as bright as they used to be?
If someone has the $ to buy either set, longer than they are likely to keep it before buying the next set.
rogo's Avatar rogo 04:45 AM 07-26-2014
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If someone has the $ to buy either set, longer than they are likely to keep it before buying the next set.
I simply don't agree that people with lots of money go and replace televisions frequently. Sure, certain wealthy videophiles do.

But most wealthy folks I know buy a TV very rarely. If they bought a $10,000 TV and it was not as good as new in 2-3 years, they'd pretty much go ballistic.
dsinger's Avatar dsinger 06:11 AM 07-26-2014
^ Mark: What I had in mind when writing that was more like 5 years. At 2000 hours per year we are talking about 10,000 usage by the time the set is replaced or moved to a less important viewing area. Don't remember anyone claiming OLED will suffer significant PQ degradation at 10,000 hours although, if IR/ burn in turns out to be a real issue, that may change.
JimP 06:39 AM 07-26-2014
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....snip...
Don't remember anyone claiming OLED will suffer significant PQ degradation at 10,000 hours although, if IR/ burn in turns out to be a real issue, that may change.
That's the other shoe many of us are waiting to drop.

Which brings up a question. How long does it take for time related issues such as burn in and IR to occur before its safe to go out and buy one?????
Audio Karma's Avatar Audio Karma 08:19 AM 07-26-2014
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That's the other shoe many of us are waiting to drop.

Which brings up a question. How long does it take for time related issues such as burn in and IR to occur before its safe to go out and buy one?????
Who knows.. Sometimes we are in a rush to bring these new technologies to market before we really should.

Long term testing should be done on these new technologies before putting them on the market so they can work out THESE big problems
5x10's Avatar 5x10 08:56 AM 07-26-2014
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That's the other shoe many of us are waiting to drop.

Which brings up a question. How long does it take for time related issues such as burn in and IR to occur before its safe to go out and buy one?????
I would think ir or burn in would show itself after extensive use with a picture that would warrant it(heads up display on a video game, scrolling boxes on the bottom,meson, etc)
I know their was no logic or timeframe on plasma burn ins, so I'm not sure oled would have a methodical pattern of ir
If it's very susceptible to it, I would guess it would show itself sooner rather than later
tgm1024's Avatar tgm1024 09:15 AM 07-26-2014
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I would think ir or burn in would show itself after extensive use with a picture that would warrant it(heads up display on a video game, scrolling boxes on the bottom,meson, etc)
I know their was no logic or timeframe on plasma burn ins, so I'm not sure oled would have a methodical pattern of ir
If it's very susceptible to it, I would guess it would show itself sooner rather than later
As you know from the ea9800 thread, we're far from understanding what is going on with some releases of the LG 2K devices. There were reports of gaming HUDs not causing a bit of IR, but the letterboxes doing so after a single viewing. Once we thought that this implied that static imagery was not the problem and that initial uneven wear was, but the experiments folks (ThePlague13, Vinnie97 (RIP) et. al.) were doing only showed that prepping the screen with slides only partly to mostly worked.
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