I just joined avs after googling why there was no cc using hdmi, from what I have read I am outraged to the point that veins are popping out of my neck.
I am by no means a techie person, I still view my 32" crt tv and of course know I will have to upgrade to all this lcd, hdtv using hdmi's etc. I do know a little about those things by reading mags or info on the net and of course talking to people in stores like best buy or circuitcity.
I have two deaf children, one is 21 and the other 20, after finding out my first was deaf my wife and I went out of our way to give them whatever capabilities they were lacking in hearing, and closed captions are one of the biggest if not the biggest, we bought cc boxes for every tv in the house, and they were not cheap but we didn't care, we wanted to give our kids every advantage and did, because of the cc boxes my kids were able to learn how to read very quickly, and what most hearing people don't know many deaf people do not write or sign exact english, hearing people many times mis-interpret a deaf persons writing as something wrong with them because they usually write as they sign in ASL, (American Sign Language), its an abbreviated language, most deaf people use ASL, and so do my kids, but because of closed captioning they also know how to sign and write in exact english like the hearing world does, so the importance of cc is a no brainier.
To clarify the difference between subtitles and cc, the only good thing I can say about subtitles is it beats a blank, if you had the option to chose you would never chose subtitles, of course with my 32" crt tv we always watched widescreen before it even became a fad, I even bought widescreen vhs tapes before dvd's came out, I always knew I loved to watch the movie as it was intended at the movies, watching movies on a full screen you lose at least 30% of the picture and no the black bars never bothered me, actually the black bars are nice because mostly cc lays on the bottom of the screen on the bottom black bar, very easy to read and the cc didn't interfere with the picture, not like subtitles, subtitles interfere with the picture all the time and like many said miss a lot like sounds etc. and more, and worse some subtitles are small and are not even readable, and if the movie display much lighted color the white titles can't even be illegible, they just disappear in the background which is so annoying, I have also noticed that many dvd's now are dropping cc and just carrying subtitles, maybe because of the hdtv, hdmi etc situation, who knows the real reason.
I helped my neighbor just last week in purchasing a samsung 32 lcd hdtv because he knew nothing of the new technology of today's tv, I know a little, he also bought a samsung dvd player with hdmi outputs, he also called verizon and purchased hd cable, yes the picture was gorgeous, everything was going just fine till we wanted to turn on cc, none, no cc with dvd's, and none watching broadcast tv, gone, zilch, I went nuts trying to figure it out, finally read in the samsung manual, cannot get cc using component or hdmi cables, it doesn't even work using the av mode, my friend was just as upset as I was, of course he doesn't need cc but knows I do because as I got older my hearing also went down hill, I love cc, we told the verizon people to get their butt down to us asap, they came, could not figure it out, knew nothing about it, the verizon guy called the main office and they knew nothing about it, that's par, of course if you are not deaf or have somebody in a family that is why care right. Well it seems the poor deaf community is getting shafted again, and I'll be dammed if I gonna stand by and do nothing, one complaint will not solve this, complaint in huge numbers will.
Does anybody remember how and why it became law, for any tv 13" or over came about? it was when Reagan himself started to lose his hearing when it became law, yeah right after a big time politician starts to lose his hearing things got done, he noticed real quick it was no fun missing words either in person or tv etc. turn of the sound on your tv and try watching a show and see how you like it.
How these big time tv, lcd, dvd, hdtv cable companies etc. are getting away with this I have no idea, I am always on top of things with the deaf community because of my children, I cannot believe this is the first time I am finding out about this, but I am not letting it go, my butt is gonna be at my senators office right after this holiday, and I will not be by myself, and I will be screaming.