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As the topic title suggests, it's time for me to step up to some flat panel tech (currently on a 30" Sony CRT). I'll try to be as detailed as possible to give all you experts out there more to go on in providing the best suggestions possible.

The primary use will be gaming. I have a PS3, PS2, and Wii. So, as you can see, there will be a mix of HD and SD signals involved.

The secondary use will be Blu-Ray movies and other HD content.

So, my primary concern with the new TV will be input lag. Many of the games I play, both HD and SD, require precise timing. As such, even 1 frame of lag can effect the outcome of a game. I know pretty much all flat panels lag these days, but my aim right now is to get the lowest possible input lag available without sacrificing too much in other areas (like PQ).

With my primary concern in mind, I want at least a 46" screen at 1080p. As far as picture quality, I want decent black levels for both gaming and movie viewing, with no screen inconsistancy due to back-light bleeding and whatnot.

As far as price, I would like to stay under $1500 if at all possible.

Now, I already know that many people will probably suggest a plasma of some sort, so that brings in a new concern: image retention and/or burn-in.
While I don't do those crazy 8-hour gaming marathons, I do tend to play for several hours at a time, so I don't want image retention to become overly distracting. That is really my only problem as far as plasma's are concerned.

So, with all that in mind, feel free to make me some suggestions; any and all will be appreciated! Thanks!

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On the plasma side, Panasonic will be your only choice. Samsung and LG plasma's both have nasty input lag in comparison. Panny's new sets have ~16ms, or 1 frame at 60fps.

Can't say about LCD, i don't keep up with them
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Panny's also have rising blacks, which sucks. I've been looking at the Sharp 6088UN. It seems like sharps have the lowest input lag of LCD's. I'm in the same boat as you, I want a tv to game on 90% of the time.
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Thanks for the responses!

The "floating blacks" problem the Panasonic's seem to have would definitely bug me during movies and atmospheric games, so I guess Panasonic is out of the question until a fix has been confirmed...

I've also heard good things about Sharp's input lag times, but there are a lot of different models out there it seems...anyone have any specific suggestions on the best Sharp LCD (46" or greater) to get for gaming?

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I'd get the green one.

How come all HDTVs seem to be available in black only. What's wrong with having an oak or cherry frame?
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I'd get the green one.

How come all HDTVs seem to be available in black only. What's wrong with having an oak or cherry frame?

Fake wood is even worse than piano black, IMHO, and real wood is way too expensive.

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I'd get the green one.

How come all HDTVs seem to be available in black only. What's wrong with having an oak or cherry frame?

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Fake wood is even worse than piano black, IMHO, and real wood is way too expensive.

Your little quips are not appreciated.

For most people, purchasing a high-end HDTV is a once-in-a-decade event, and getting an appropriate set that will last a long time is quite difficult these days.

That is why I chose to simply ask for advice in sorting through the multitude of possibilities and information (and misinformation) on HDTVs on these revered forums.

If my humble request is too much of a bother, then by all means just lock my thread and I'll take my business elsewhere.

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Your little quips are not appreciated.

For most people, purchasing a high-end HDTV is a once-in-a-decade event, and getting an appropriate set that will last a long time is quite difficult these days.

That is why I chose to simply ask for advice in sorting through the multitude of possibilities and information (and misinformation) on HDTVs on these revered forums.

If my humble request is too much of a bother, then by all means just lock my thread and I'll take my business elsewhere.

My my you are a touchy fellow! I didn't even comment on one of your posts.

And what exactly is "your" business? Letting us help you?
And then you suggest that you get misinformation on this forums?

Your request isn't humble, it's impertinent as you *demand* help and if you don't get exactly that in each and every posting you act like a little child.

What do you think you are getting with this kind of attitude?

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My my you are a touchy fellow! I didn't even comment on one of your posts.

And what exactly is "your" business? Letting us help you?
And then you suggest that you get misinformation on this forums?

Your request isn't humble, it's impertinent as you *demand* help and if you don't get exactly that in each and every posting you act like a little child.

What do you think you are getting with this kind of attitude?

Way to jump from point A to point Z.

Yes, I am touchy, I've delt with my fair share of internet forum elitism and I'm about sick of it. God forbid anyone make a fairly comprehensive thread simply asking for help and not have to deal with condescension or hostility. I'm struggling to find a suitable HDTV, and I really thought these forums were here to help.

None of my posts imply that I "demand" help. I am simply asking for advice and suggestions.

The only childish post in this thread is MikeBiker's obvious smart assed remark in response to my question regarding specific models of HDTVs. No, your comment wasn't directly aimed at my post, but your comment was meant to egg him on while providing absolutely nothing constructive to the topic at hand.

Yes, there can be misinformation on these forums, as I've seen back-and-forth thread arguments on many different topics. There is a plethora of great information that is actually difficult to sift through.

Hell, I don't even know why I'm arguing about this.
This is border line trolling.

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Anyway, in an attempt to get the thread back on track...

I've noticed that both LCD's and Plasma's need to be in "game mode" in order to take advantage of any input lag reduction they may have, and this mode apparently disables image enhancers and picture quality controls.

So my question is...how much does the picture quality degrade when switched to "game mode" for most TV's? Will the white and black levels become crushed or will the colors lose much fidelity? Thanks!

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My my you are a touchy fellow! I didn't even comment on one of your posts.

And what exactly is "your" business? Letting us help you?
And then you suggest that you get misinformation on this forums?

Your request isn't humble, it's impertinent as you *demand* help and if you don't get exactly that in each and every posting you act like a little child.

What do you think you are getting with this kind of attitude?

**** you *******
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So my question is...how much does the picture quality degrade when switched to "game mode" for most TV's? Will the white and black levels become crushed or will the colors lose much fidelity? Thanks!

I can't say, but I don't think it would matter much. Doesn't seem like too many games care that much about picture accuracy. Hence the brightness sliders in like every game.
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