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Which market?

The Road Show was in Germany, so I assume they were talking about the German market.
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Seems to me that it could be anywhere in the world. They could make such an announcement on each and every LG Roadshow 2012 without telling where this Premier actually is. Strategic would be best at the start of a big event, that will give -extra - free exposure

http://www.lg.com/uk/microsite/lg-xperience/index.jsp
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french: http://www.easylounge.com/tv-ecran-p...55em9600-46506

The spec. in this link says; "Resolution: 4096 x 2048", that is the first time the OLED TV has been mentioned as a 4K TV.
It would of course be very sensible to introduce new TV tech. with the higher "future proof" 4K resolution, but I doubt that the web site is correct because the model number is the US number. The EU number is LG 55EM960V.
The price for this TV is also said throughout Europe to not be confirmed before the TV is available.
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"LG'S 55" OLED-TV TO LAUNCH IN MAY FOR $7,900"

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1332831891

"According to the interest group OLED Association LG is moving fast to get a head start in the new OLED adventure. The original launch schedule was “second half of 2012”. Later it was reported that LG aimed to have the TV ready before the Summer Olympics in London (in July).

Citing a Korean newspaper, the OLED Association now says that LG plans to introduce the 55” OLED-TV at the Cannes Film Festival that runs from May 16 to May 27. The OLED-TV will cost 9 million Won – or around 7,900 USD, according to the sources.

LG is reportedly hoping to become the leading OLED-TV manufacturer. Samsung is also planning to release a 55-inch OLED-TV this year.

Update: An LG spokesperson confirms to Maeli Economy and says;

- “LG Electronics decided to arrange the launching event of its 55-inch OLED TV during the Cannes Film Festival period from May 16 to 27,” an LG official said Thursday to Maeli.
- “Starting in Europe, the company plans to advance marketing activities of its OLED TVs worldwide”

- Source: OLED Association, Maeli Economy"

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In the past, TV price levels have been set much higher for the European market, than they have ended up being set for North America, so we probably should wait and see if that holds true for the LG OLED TV display also.
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"LG'S 55" OLED-TV TO LAUNCH IN MAY FOR $7,900"

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1332831891

"According to the interest group OLED Association LG is moving fast to get a head start in the new OLED adventure. The original launch schedule was "second half of 2012". Later it was reported that LG aimed to have the TV ready before the Summer Olympics in London (in July).

Citing a Korean newspaper, the OLED Association now says that LG plans to introduce the 55" OLED-TV at the Cannes Film Festival that runs from May 16 to May 27. The OLED-TV will cost 9 million Won - or around 7,900 USD, according to the sources.

LG is reportedly hoping to become the leading OLED-TV manufacturer. Samsung is also planning to release a 55-inch OLED-TV this year.

Update: An LG spokesperson confirms to Maeli Economy and says;

- "LG Electronics decided to arrange the launching event of its 55-inch OLED TV during the Cannes Film Festival period from May 16 to 27," an LG official said Thursday to Maeli.
- "Starting in Europe, the company plans to advance marketing activities of its OLED TVs worldwide"

- Source: OLED Association, Maeli Economy"

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In the past, TV price levels have been set much higher for the European market, than they have ended up being set for North America, so we probably should wait and see if that holds true for the LG OLED TV display also.

If 7.9k is anywhere near the street price then it is too rich for my blood.
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If 7.9k is anywhere near the street price then it is too rich for my blood.

It will come down in a few years, just like Plasma, LCD, and Blu-Ray players did. The deep pockets early adopters always pay for to reimburse the makers for their start up costs.
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well with the known issues of the short lifespan of the blue pixels, burn in, relatively short lifespan on the high end oled monitors currently being sold by sony and others, and that weird black thing that is happening to the oled display on the vita, i will certainly wait until this technology is proven.

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It's a bit nutty to pay $8K or buy a first-gen one of these, but I wouldn't be surprised much if it was a $4K display within 2 years or so. A top-end LCD might well be running half that by then (since they appear to be $3000 or so at 55" for high-end models), but somehow twice the price for a 2nd/3rd-gen OLED seems more reasonable vs. LCD than 2.5x the price for a first-gen one, especially when the gap at this point will be $5000 instead of, say, $2000.

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well with the known issues of the short lifespan of the blue pixels, burn in, relatively short lifespan on the high end oled monitors currently being sold by sony and others, and that weird black thing that is happening to the oled display on the vita, i will certainly wait until this technology is proven.


If LG is using White OLED + Color Filter there is no short lifespan issue with blue pixels. It is just a long lasting white OLED.
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If LG is using White OLED + Color Filter there is no short lifespan issue with blue pixels. It is just a long lasting white OLED.

We've discussed this in about 500 separate posts, but it's not "white OLED", it's a stack of red, green, and blue OLED material that makes white light. There is a lifespan issue, but because the blue is a fluorescent blue that would be hard to use in a traditional RGB, but is workable in the stacked model, it's believed their lifespan should be solid.

So, no, it's not a long-lasting white OLED. But there is hope that it will color shift minimally over a long period.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working.
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There are a few details on LG's approach in the description of one of their SID talks. The 90 cd/A spec is pretty impressive.

Worth noting that any papers on Samsung's OLED's are completely absent from SID (for the 2nd year in a row).

https://www.sidmembers.org/ScriptCon...tSearchString=
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21.2 - A 55-in. FHD OLED TV Employing New Tandem WOLEDs (9:20 AM - 9:40 AM)
Chang-Wook Han, KyungMan Kim, SungJoon Bae, Hong-Seok Choi, Jae Man Lee, Taeshick Kim, YoonHeung Tak, Byung Chul Ahn
LG Display Co., Ltd, Paju-si, Gyeonggi-do, South Korea
A 55-in. OLED TV employing a white OLED will be reported. A hybrid tandem structure comprised of a phosphorescent R/G stack and a fluorescent blue stack, to achieve a high current efficiency of 90 cd/A at 1000 nits and cool white color (0.327, 0.344), has been fabricated.

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Kodak white oled with fluorescent and phosphorescent materials.
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It's a bit nutty to pay $8K or buy a first-gen one of these, but I wouldn't be surprised much if it was a $4K display within 2 years or so. A top-end LCD might well be running half that by then (since they appear to be $3000 or so at 55" for high-end models), but somehow twice the price for a 2nd/3rd-gen OLED seems more reasonable vs. LCD than 2.5x the price for a first-gen one, especially when the gap at this point will be $5000 instead of, say, $2000.

This is often the case with most tech. It's a combination of economies of scale and being able to charge a premium for a luxury item.

Here's hoping the tech wow's people and become affordable (subjective) over the next year or two. Looking forward to seeing one of these in May.
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Since they are spending lot's of $$$$ to get this out earlier, this early price will just mean lower prices that much earlier.

Plus, this is a price for Korea, by the time it's out in the US or Europe, it will be less expensive.

The question is what price will Samsung do?

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This is often the case with most tech. It's a combination of economies of scale and being able to charge a premium for a luxury item.

Here's hoping the tech wow's people and become affordable (subjective) over the next year or two. Looking forward to seeing one of these in May.

I kind of doubt there'll be many (any?) in the U.S. But who knows. Their manufacturing process is not especially tricky, so perhaps they are able to push a few to market globally.

We can hope.

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Kodak white oled with fluorescent and phosphorescent materials.

That's why I use the term RGBW OLED to avoid miscommunication
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The earlier article pointing to a price of $8000 gets further confirmation:

http://news.mk.co.kr/english/newsRea...2012&no=185020

The link to this article was from a piece on Hometheater.com.
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The earlier article pointing to a price of $8000 gets further confirmation:

http://news.mk.co.kr/english/newsRea...2012&no=185020

The link to this article was from a piece on Hometheater.com.

It wouldn't surprise me if all this price "information" has the same source. When the 55EM9600 was first announced, someone guessed that it might cost $8,000. The internet ran away with this number. Someone in Korea converted this to WON's and rounded it to 9 million. Next, other people converted this number back to $7.900.

And there you have it: 3 confirmations that the price will be about $8.000. Must be true.
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It wouldn't surprise me if all this price "information" has the same source. When the 55EM9600 was first announced, someone guessed that it might cost $8,000. The internet ran away with this number. Someone in Korea converted this to WON's and rounded it to 9 million. Next, other people converted this number back to $7.900.

And there you have it: 3 confirmations that the price will be about $8.000. Must be true.

It wouldn't be shocking to learn this was the case. Of course, it's also possible someone at LG at some point confirmed the 9 million Kr won number.... We'll know when we know.

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It wouldn't surprise me if all this price "information" has the same source. When the 55EM9600 was first announced, someone guessed that it might cost $8,000. The internet ran away with this number. Someone in Korea converted this to WON's and rounded it to 9 million. Next, other people converted this number back to $7.900.

And there you have it: 3 confirmations that the price will be about $8.000. Must be true.

This is exactly what I think is happening. The launch dates usually have an unnamed company official attached to the rumor but the prices all come out of thin air. I think they all source back to the original WSJ article which quoted a DisplaySearch estimate of $8000. That number quickly became the conventional wisdom.

Maybe LG and Samsung will hit that number, but the articles all seem like they are just part of the internet echo chamber.
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^^ 2X 60" Sharp Elite pricing sounds plausible to me. My guess was Sammy RGB solution would probably be around 3X. Not surprise if Sammy drop the RGB solution in the short term.
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^^ 2X 60" Sharp Elite pricing sounds plausible to me. My guess was Sammy RGB solution would probably be around 3X. Not surprise if Sammy drop the RGB solution in the short term.

Agreed. If it's more than 6k, I'll be shocked.

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^^ depends whether you are talking about MSRP or street price
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It wouldn't be shocking to learn this was the case. Of course, it's also possible someone at LG at some point confirmed the 9 million Kr won number.... We'll know when we know.

The Korean business journal quoted an LG representative as of last Thursday.
So, I'm not sure that it's just Internet echo, as some have said.

I don't think it's implausible that the first model will be priced like this.

As you say, we'll know when we know
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The Korean business journal quoted an LG representative as of last Thursday.

Yes, but not about the price
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Yes, but not about the price

Well, I think we're parsing this too much.

One could argue that the LG representative was not quoted specifically about the price, but the article appears to derive from the remarks of this representative. It would not make much journalistic sense, in my opinion, to use a company rep as a source, and then add in additional facts from elsewhere.

Besides, a respected business journal from Korea would, I think, be a bit more careful about what it prints regarding a flagship product than a general web-based display blog (and I'm not referring to this forum).

Anyway, we'll see.
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http://www.afterdawn.com/news/articl...ing_next_month

Street date in Europe is May 16, anybody know USA street date?
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laugh so hard if LG delivers this at vastly under 10k in the middle of May, 2012, if only to tell those naysayers to STFU and stop spouting their opinions as fact. But, knowing human nature a little bit, they will probably ever deny being against OLED and pretend like their predictions were always in line with this.

This LG timeline + news is definitely huge, if true. I for one am glad I'll have a worthy upgrade next year to my 2008 panny plasma. Even if it does cost me 5k, I make enough money and spend way more time in front of a screen than I do in my car, which cost me 10x more than my TV.
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