Sony Crystal LED Display - new display tech - Page 18 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Baselworld is only a few weeks away. Getting the latest news is easy, Click Here for info on how to join the Watchuseek.com newsletter list. Follow our team for updates featuring event coverage, new product unveilings, watch industry news & more!


Forum Jump: 
 18Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #511 of 519 Old 06-27-2015, 02:11 PM
AVS Special Member
 
tgm1024's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,101
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1408 Post(s)
Liked: 1377
Anyone else ever wonder whose living room the demo CLED's ended up in?
ONDr likes this.

Cogito ergo sum makes a fundamental mistake because it ignores the implied existence of the narrator. Descartes might as well have said "A rose is red, therefore I am".
tgm1024 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #512 of 519 Old 06-27-2015, 06:50 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Chronoptimist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,773
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 334
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agisthos View Post
No sample and hold issues as well it seems.
Unless they're strobing the image - and they will have an option for that - you're going to get sample & hold effects from any display.
Sample & hold blurring is due to the fact that the screens are flicker-free at the low framerates in use today. It has nothing to do with the display technology used.
And I suspect the flicker-free mode would have been enabled at a trade show like that, otherwise the screen would be flickering when filmed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Agisthos View Post
But this is not coming to market as usual.
Not that display anyway.
They have an extremely impressive 30" 4K HDR OLED on its way to market though. (BVM-X300)
Chronoptimist is offline  
post #513 of 519 Old 06-27-2015, 07:03 PM
Member
 
Agisthos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 100
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Liked: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post
Anyone else ever wonder whose living room the demo CLED's ended up in?

Some lucky engineer has one in their living room. Along with some lucky Canon engineer who has an SED. Maybe.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronoptimist View Post
Unless they're strobing the image - and they will have an option for that - you're going to get sample & hold effects from any display.
Sample & hold blurring is due to the fact that the screens are flicker-free at the low framerates in use today. It has nothing to do with the display technology used.
And I suspect the flicker-free mode would have been enabled at a trade show like that, otherwise the screen would be flickering when filmed.

I would think they were doing some sort of backlight scan, but.... the image is nice and bright, especially for a 2013 OLED anyway. What is so special about this particular OLED monitor, compared to current offerings?
Agisthos is offline  
post #514 of 519 Old 06-27-2015, 08:15 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
rogo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Stop making curved screens
Posts: 30,770
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 664 Post(s)
Liked: 923
The CLED prototype had some substantial flaws. I doubt anyone would want it in their living room.

I also suspect it used a ton of power....

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
rogo is offline  
post #515 of 519 Old 06-28-2015, 07:27 AM
AVS Special Member
 
tgm1024's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,101
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1408 Post(s)
Liked: 1377
Quote:
Originally Posted by rogo View Post
The CLED prototype had some substantial flaws. I doubt anyone would want it in their living room.

I also suspect it used a ton of power....
They claimed 75watts for that 55". Perhaps that a "one day" spec, but the demo couldn't be all that far off.

Cogito ergo sum makes a fundamental mistake because it ignores the implied existence of the narrator. Descartes might as well have said "A rose is red, therefore I am".
tgm1024 is offline  
post #516 of 519 Old 06-28-2015, 11:27 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
rogo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Stop making curved screens
Posts: 30,770
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 664 Post(s)
Liked: 923
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post
They claimed 75watts for that 55". Perhaps that a "one day" spec, but the demo couldn't be all that far off.
Alright, maybe the power was fine

The image was not.
tgm1024 likes this.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
rogo is offline  
post #517 of 519 Old 06-29-2015, 08:44 AM
Advanced Member
 
rgb32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 949
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Liked: 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by rogo View Post
Alright, maybe the power was fine

The image was not.
What did you not like about the picture on the prototype CLED?


EDIT: You didn't like their scanning implementation?

Last edited by rgb32; 06-29-2015 at 08:54 AM.
rgb32 is offline  
post #518 of 519 Old 06-29-2015, 10:44 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
rogo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Stop making curved screens
Posts: 30,770
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 664 Post(s)
Liked: 923
Quote:
Originally Posted by rgb32 View Post
What did you not like about the picture on the prototype CLED?


EDIT: You didn't like their scanning implementation?
Correct, it was pretty dreadful. And it was hard to not move back to it over and over, despite losing one's self for an instant in the gorgeous middle.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
rogo is offline  
post #519 of 519 Old 06-29-2015, 10:33 PM
AVS Special Member
 
kucharsk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 4,748
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 531 Post(s)
Liked: 284
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post
Anyone else ever wonder whose living room the demo CLED's ended up in?
As with most engineering prototypes, they likely went back to the factory and where physically destroyed.
kucharsk is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply OLED Technology and Flat Panels General



Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off