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Anyone else ever wonder whose living room the demo CLED's ended up in?
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No sample and hold issues as well it seems.
Unless they're strobing the image - and they will have an option for that - you're going to get sample & hold effects from any display.
Sample & hold blurring is due to the fact that the screens are flicker-free at the low framerates in use today. It has nothing to do with the display technology used.
And I suspect the flicker-free mode would have been enabled at a trade show like that, otherwise the screen would be flickering when filmed.

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But this is not coming to market as usual.
Not that display anyway.
They have an extremely impressive 30" 4K HDR OLED on its way to market though. (BVM-X300)
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Anyone else ever wonder whose living room the demo CLED's ended up in?

Some lucky engineer has one in their living room. Along with some lucky Canon engineer who has an SED. Maybe.


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Unless they're strobing the image - and they will have an option for that - you're going to get sample & hold effects from any display.
Sample & hold blurring is due to the fact that the screens are flicker-free at the low framerates in use today. It has nothing to do with the display technology used.
And I suspect the flicker-free mode would have been enabled at a trade show like that, otherwise the screen would be flickering when filmed.

I would think they were doing some sort of backlight scan, but.... the image is nice and bright, especially for a 2013 OLED anyway. What is so special about this particular OLED monitor, compared to current offerings?
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The CLED prototype had some substantial flaws. I doubt anyone would want it in their living room.

I also suspect it used a ton of power....

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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The CLED prototype had some substantial flaws. I doubt anyone would want it in their living room.

I also suspect it used a ton of power....
They claimed 75watts for that 55". Perhaps that a "one day" spec, but the demo couldn't be all that far off.

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They claimed 75watts for that 55". Perhaps that a "one day" spec, but the demo couldn't be all that far off.
Alright, maybe the power was fine

The image was not.
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Alright, maybe the power was fine

The image was not.
What did you not like about the picture on the prototype CLED?


EDIT: You didn't like their scanning implementation?

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What did you not like about the picture on the prototype CLED?


EDIT: You didn't like their scanning implementation?
Correct, it was pretty dreadful. And it was hard to not move back to it over and over, despite losing one's self for an instant in the gorgeous middle.

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Anyone else ever wonder whose living room the demo CLED's ended up in?
As with most engineering prototypes, they likely went back to the factory and where physically destroyed.
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