Originally Posted by Hoots
Since the threads starts with "latest and greatest" shouldn't 4K be in the mix? With Sony dropping prices to $5k for a 65" w/o the speakers the price gap is closing (and I assume it will continue). You can probably deal better on a ZT vs Sony 4K and a VT is still half the price but anyone walking into Best Buy, etc. looking for the "latest" should at least look at 4K.
I am curious what the Plasma fans think of the Sony 4K (I know this is a plasma forum thus the interest in why still plasma). If it was the same price as your favorite plasma would you easily chose the plasma for BD movie watching? At BB I did a quick comparison of Jurasic Park BD on 65" VT and 4K at my normal seating distance around 8 ft. There was clearly better detail on the upscaled 4K. Blacks and motion looked good (probably not as good as high end plasma but I liked the color...impressive picture and even more so on the 4K demo content.
I read the cnet article on only an "Idiot" buying 4K (resolution at distance vs. blacks, contrast, motion, etc. but I was impressed with what I saw. I am thinking in about 2 years 4K would seem to be mature enough to be top of my list and within budget. today it is tempting but ~$2k plasma might be a better value for now as a mature technology where it seems 4k technology and prices are on a steeper curve.
I tend to get caught up in having the 'best' when I decide to go for something. when I did my shopping in early may, the full array sony's that were scattered around as clearance and open box items were something I was considering. I still like the idea of lcd panels for 'idiot proof' usage, and especially now that my reference viewing will be done on a projector, it made sense to consider one again. anyway, I ended up talking to a salesman i'd been buying stuff from since I was about 16 and he was showing me the 55" sony 4k model. at first because I asked if any of the sony's still had a full array backlight and he thought it did. he later clarified it did not(I think the tv had only been there for 2 days). we looked at it for awhile, and given that it was being fed the same source as the other TV's, I wasn't too surprised to not see any improvement in resolution. I was however disappointed to see the same kind of performance I see from other LED models. with a 1080p source, there was literally nothing that made the tv visually stand out. if you want a tv with a built in sound bar(aka, nasty, useless speakers that take up precious screen space) that was the only thing that I felt made it stand out from the f8000 or other LED models on display around it
for me, the sony wasn't in the same class as the top plasmas. the zt60, vt60 and f8500 were all much better. i'm pretty sure i'd take the st60 over it as well. compared to the LED's on the market, well sure. if I get extra pixels and the same performance otherwise, yeah i'd take the 4k sony over the f8000 and many other LED's. actually, as far as LED's go, the 4k sony was good,the f8000 is pretty good too. if for some reason I had enough money to buy one of those TV's but not enough money to buy blinds, they could both work for me
I am, and probably always will be, far more sensitive to blacks not being black than I am anything else. motion, color, brightness look good to me on literally every tv I've viewed this year. I think it's just the way I watch tv. I always have something 'black' to compare to, but almost never have something 'white' near the tv. so whatever is on screen will always be the brightest and whitest thing in the room, but even the best blacks out there are still bright compared to the 'black' of my room.