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post #871 of 895 Old 12-13-2014, 09:42 PM
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55" is fine, for plasma displays. OLEDs are thinner and lighter and run on less power. They just scream to be Super-Sized.
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..so is it visible while watching a movie that something is wrong with the motion under everyday viewing,i do agree that lg is more like an lcd and the samsung is more plasma like,now where can we buy one so we dont go bankrupt?
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It's discontinued. Samsung pulled the plug early due to production costs and other issues, like their inability to manufacture larger screen sizes with the current technology. Having said that, you may still find one online for a few grand. Just make sure you get a solid return policy; Samsung support is nonexistent.


Motion is not perfect, and the set has higher input lag than the LGs which makes it less desirable for gaming. Still, very adequate for movies.

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Is this tv better than the pioneer krp500a?
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Plasma and LCD are dead to me. (EDIT: plasma sets can get too hot; and LCD black levels are awful)

Actually, disposable LCD still have some value in the kids room.

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Is this tv better than the pioneer krp500a?
Better specs, but better to me might not be the same to you. It's the best display I have very seen only wishing it was 65".
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A few of my guests would fall asleep while watching my Pioneer plasma. The screen's low light level and warmth was so cozy they'd be in a trance in minutes.

Edit: I did like the picture though.

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What about the new 65 4k lg oled tv?
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What about the new 65 4k lg oled tv?
I have been dreaming of the 77" oled.
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I did my first actual calibration using the 1I- Display Pro, only completed daytime calibrations. I did not realize how off my setting were.

Very happy with results






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Those pictures look great, Vegas. Love the green on that mountain shot.


Which software do you have, Chromapure or Calman, or some other? I've only been using CP.
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Those pictures look great, Vegas. Love the green on that mountain shot.


Which software do you have, Chromapure or Calman, or some other? I've only been using CP.
It comes with it own which is limited as you only get one color temp setting and don't set it at different ire settings. Still Better than nothing. Blue had shifted and need to go higher.

I would like to find better software to work with it I believe Calman might work.
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I have ChromaPure. As a beginner, I found it simple to use - and not that calibration itself is simple - and got started quickly. There's also a "Calibration for Dummies" guide in the Official Chromapure thread that can help you through your first session.


Did you purchase the i1Display3Pro (i1D3)? I got mine from Chromapure. The meter comes calibrated with a correction file for various display types. Tom Hoffman is the software developer and he recently added an OLED correction file for the i1D3. You can find him here at AVS.


Which ever software you choose, you're on the right track. These displays require constant monitoring if you want top performance year after year.
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Here's a review that shows color accuracy can be improved on the S9C.


"Color accuracy in default Movie mode was OK, but not as technically accurate as on many high-end TVs, including Samsung's own LED LCDs and plasmas. I measured an error level (Delta E 2000) average of 4.19 for the combined grayscale/gamma (that's Average on CNET's scale; anything less than 3 qualifies as Good), mainly due to a minus-blue trend as the image brightens. Gamma itself measured a superb 2.17 overall. Average error for colors was a more respectable 2.83, and would have been much better but for desaturated blue."
http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-kn55s9c/
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Can someone translate the statement below regarding the 2-point WB and MLL? It's from an earlier review, here, of the S9C. I believe the elevated MLL merely means the low-blacks may look gray using the set's Offset/Gain controls.

"On previous Samsung HDTVs, we normally adjust the 2-point WB controls first to bring greyscale closer to D65, and then take advantage of the 10-point WB system (if available) to fine tune each 10% stimulus interval. However, on the KE55S9C, this approach resulted in a very mild elevation of minimum luminance level (MLL), so we cleared our settings and restarted from scratch, this time using only the 10p WB controls without touching the 2p system."
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FWIW, I'm sticking with my normal routine: 2-point calibration, followed by the 11-pt manual adjustment in the Lumagen Radiance. The picture looks great, as always, with excellent contrast. However at 5% black the error is a bit high (~8 dE, which I can show next time with a 21-point calibration), resulting in a wee-bit of black crush. Raising the brightness setting from 47 to 50 can fix this, but turns the black bars slightly gray which can be noticed on low APL content.


I'm happy with JETI-profiled i1D3 results, but I'm moving on to a reference colorimeter, the new CR-100, which should give a better reading at the low end. I'll report back when the meter arrives in about a week.

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As a side note, I'm using the OLED correction table supplied by Chromapure. If I'm not mistaken, this meter correction table is based on a spectral reading of an LG WRGB OLED, and not my Samsung OLED display which uses RGB technology. I don't know what bearing, if any, the WRGB offsets have on my calibrations, but I suspect it's minimal since the correction offsets (done at ChromaPure) almost match the offsets I get when I profile the field meter with my i1Pro2. This would seem to show the two displays share similar spectral properties. But what do I know; I'm a newbie!


In any case, I am debating the purchase of a reference spectrometer to help me get an exact reading of the screen, which may be a gigantic waste, since we may not see this type of display ever again.

Than, again, I can always use the spectrometer on my future OLED, so why the heck not get it. Right?!

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In the box new? It's worth it.
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In the box new? It's worth it.
No its a display model, but who knows they may have a new one as well. I never asked.
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The point is it's discontinued.
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Plasma and LCD are dead to me. (EDIT: plasma sets can get too hot; and LCD black levels are awful)

Actually, disposable LCD still have some value in the kids room.
You do know that OLED sets get warm, too?
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Agreed, but no where near Plasma. The heat radiated from my Pioneer 5080 from a few feet away was positively oppressive in Summer, even with the air running.

Edit: I have no doubt the new plasmas run cooler.

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Agreed, but no where near Plasma. The heat radiated from my Pioneer 5080 from a few feet away was positively oppressive in Summer, even with the air running.

Edit: I have no doubt the new plasmas run cooler.

Preach it, brother!! My Pro-111FD is also an oven in summer.
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