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I finally got the chance to see calibrated 55S9C and I have to tell you it is much better than any LG OLED
Can't wait to see Samsung 75" 4k true RGB OLED on the store shelves
What year is that out
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I finally got the chance to see calibrated 55S9C and I have to tell you it is much better than any LG OLED
Can't wait to see Samsung 75" 4k true RGB OLED on the store shelves
Did it have the same near-black uniformity issues as the LG panels? This old review, seems to imply that it does:

"By contrast, the Samsung OLED had no color smears across its picture, but like a plasma, dark gray fields would appear to have slight brightness discrepancies across them"
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Input lag i cant tell the difference from the previous sets I've had.
That's strange. The ZT60 has 23ms and achieve that in the accurate professional presets. Also, motion in 60fps games should look better than on the S9C.
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Did it have the same near-black uniformity issues as the LG panels?
I didn't test it for uniformity issues, only watched blu-ray content.

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Motion in 60fps on s9c does look better than the zt
In general i just don't find the issues with motion/lag when gaming.
It also doesn't have near black uniformity issues like the LG oled.
It doesn't have any of the problems what lg oled have.
When you see one in action you will come to know instantly why LG cant compete the s9c oled.
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It also doesn't have near black uniformity issues like the LG oled.
Any proof to back up that claim? Maybe post a 5% gray photo like the LG owners have done?
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Samsung Oled was so great Samsung forgot to make spare parts or to update it a tv they burried alive
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Samsung Oled was so great Samsung forgot to make spare parts or to update it a tv they burried alive
Doesn't really need updating because it doesn't have any problems unlike the LG oled.
Spare parts - most of the s9c are doing pretty well. Really have no concerns or worries regarding it breaking down because its top quality built tv.
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Doesn't really need updating because it doesn't have any problems unlike the LG oled.
Spare parts - most of the s9c are doing pretty well. Really have no concerns or worries regarding it breaking down because its top quality built tv.
I think all 10 owners nationwide should start a support group when they do start breaking down
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I think all 10 owners nationwide should start a support group when they do start breaking down
10 lucky owners. Who have a tv that still outclasses current tvs. Including lg oleds.
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Doesn't really need updating because it doesn't have any problems unlike the LG oled.
Spare parts - most of the s9c are doing pretty well. Really have no concerns or worries regarding it breaking down because its top quality built tv.
Mine restarts by itself every once in a while (sometimes 3 times in an hour) so they're not perfect. Outside of that though I'd say it is. My biggest regret is not buying two when I had the chance.
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Alright, so I have a chance to get one of these. I'm pretty on the fence about it though. Even though the price is pretty great, the fact that Samsung has basically abandoned this tv makes me pretty nervous.

Any thoughts from actual owners? I have a PRO-141FD right now that I'm very happy with, so should I just wait for LG/other manufacturers to get their act together?
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Alright, so I have a chance to get one of these. I'm pretty on the fence about it though. Even though the price is pretty great, the fact that Samsung has basically abandoned this tv makes me pretty nervous.

Any thoughts from actual owners? I have a PRO-141FD right now that I'm very happy with, so should I just wait for LG/other manufacturers to get their act together?
How much are they asking?

Do you know how many hours are on it and how its been used? (meaning was it a store demo, etc.)

One of my concerns would be parts availability given that not that many were made and sold in the first place. If anything, I'd want the seller to give me a money back guarantee for say three weeks. If there is currently a problem with the set, it should surface in that time. ......and put it in writing.
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I'd take the s9c oled you wont regret it.

Just make sure there's no screen burn or dead pixels, if its been looked after well. Take it. No other tv will match it on picture quality. Waiting for LG oled to improve wont happen. There on 3rd gen with even more problems.

Its build quality is top notch.
Nothing to worry about.
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There on 3rd gen with even more problems.
No one has really seen the post August panel builds (including the new EF Series panels) to make an assessment about any "problems". Stop with the FUD please.
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No one has really seen the post August panel builds (including the new EF Series panels) to make an assessment about any "problems". Stop with the FUD please.
Agreed. It gets annoying because here is someone honestly weighing options, including waiting for the tech to further mature, and along comes a troll.
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No need to get annoyed because your making it sound like suddenly Lg oled is going to make September built without its common issues

Cloggerdude wanted to know if s9c oled is worth buying.
Its 100% worth buying because buy the time lg oled try and fix the issues you would have enjoyed at least 5 yrs of samsung oled without the dreaded problems of. Lg.

Lg only adds more problems every new model what comes out. No point waiting for them to rectify whilst there is a reference level samsung oled whats already out there without problems.

Its a samsung oled thread so i can advise him to stay away from certain defective tvs
Because he's coming from a pioneer kuro so he's only after the best.

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No need to get annoyed because your making it sound like suddenly Lg oled is going to make September built without its common issues

Cloggerdude wanted to know if s9c oled is worth buying.
Its 100% worth buying because buy the time lg oled try and fix the issues you would have enjoyed at least 5 yrs of samsung oled without the dreaded problems of. Lg.

Lg only adds more problems every new model what comes out. No point waiting for them to rectify whilst there is a reference level samsung oled whats already out there without problems.

Its a samsung oled thread so i can advise him to stay away from certain defective tvs
Because he's coming from a pioneer kuro so he's only after the best.
Being as this forum is based around science and science requires proof/evidence....maybe you'd help him make his decision easier if he could take a peak at your crystal ball. Implying it'll be 5 years before LG fixes their problems......what's this weeks Powerball numbers while you're at it?

And to claim a TV is "without problems" is false. Even your beloved Samsung has issues (*cough terrible off-axis viewing cough*). Learn to be objective and not subjective (i.e. - remove fanboy emotions). Reading your posts is like reading any old Intel vs. AMD thread from 2004.

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Our review unit had no stuck or dead pixels, and exhibited excellent uniformity without any evidence of image retention or dirty screen effect (DSE) during normal viewing. Together with the wide viewing angle (it’s as good as plasma’s) and effective anti-reflective filter, these factors contribute to a very lucid, “looking out of window” experience.
Hdtv test. Vincent. S9c review.

So lets not assume if you've never seen one in real life.
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Reading your posts is like reading any old Intel vs. AMD thread from 2004.
Or an Android vs. Apple thread from, well, yesterday.
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Our review unit had no stuck or dead pixels, and exhibited excellent uniformity without any evidence of image retention or dirty screen effect (DSE) during normal viewing. Together with the wide viewing angle (it’s as good as plasma’s) and effective anti-reflective filter, these factors contribute to a very lucid, “looking out of window” experience.
Hdtv test. Vincent. S9c review.

So lets not assume if you've never seen one in real life.
And yet the consensus from the 2014 Shootout was the S9C had a medicore off-axis viewing angle. One seasoned contributor on these threads compared it to a "budget LCD" in this regard.

So I'm not assuming

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Compiling all of the reviews and UNBIASED user remarks on the S9C it is a fantastic TV but not without it's own faults. Whether you really want to devote your life talking a specific TV up over another TV (sounds like a horribly boring life to me) or you just want to offer realistic impressions to unbiasedly guide those looking for advice, so be it.

I just don't understand your need to go out of your way to bash the LG OLED's. Yes, they have flaws and unfortunately some people have to play the panel lottery to get a good set, there's no denying that. But in terms of categorical performance, the EC9300 and the S9C are nearly identical and have very similar reviews and praises. Or does it rub you the wrong way that the EC9300 beat the S9C in the 2014 Shootout?

I am doubly confused by your brashness towards LG considering the Samsung is dead and gone.......

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Oh please, the ec930v is not even comparable to s9c. It was the worst oled lg made to date.

No point coming to a s9c thread to talk negative about it.
When you've never seen one in action.
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Oh please, the ec930v is not even comparable to s9c. It was the worst oled lg made to date.

No point coming to a s9c thread to talk negative about it.
When you've never seen one in action.
I haven't talked "negatively" about it. I pointed out one of it's flaws while noting all TV's have flaws. Only an irrational and biased person would think otherwise. And if the EC9300 isn't comparable to the S9C then why are they nearly identical in reviews and why did the EC9300 win the 2014 Shootout, of which the S9C was a part of?

My advice to the OP is plan on looking at a new TV in the next 2-3 years, as hopefully by then HDR, WCG, UHD Bluray, and a multitude of other current transitional technologies will hopefully be concrete and mainstream (or at least easily obtainable). If in that time frame LG has all of their kinks fixed or Panasonic introduces a stellar OLED or Sony unveils one or the world ends, so be it. But in figuring you would want to look at upgrading in a few years to be current on the newest tech, my advice on getting a TV now is to get one that will either resell well in a few years or take as little hit on your wallet as possible while still giving a great picture.
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