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@Vinnie , you say you use FlatpanelHD's recommended settings. So you don't use the Wide color space?

I know it's less accurate, but I find it hard to go back to standard. There are just so many pretty tones of colors missing.
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I'll need to recheck because I haven't done any further comparisons and haven't touched the settings or even watched the TV in about a month.
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So far, it's a perfect picture
Will dead pixels be obvious?
Depends upon where they are, what causes them to appear (on a particular color or any and all colors), and how far back you're sitting.

For me, one dead subpixel is a dealbreaker.

You do make me wonder though: I wonder if people will be dramatically more forgiving of dead subs on the 4K sets.
If its visible when I am viewing a movie, gaming, or television, it's going back
But I'm not going to put slides up to search for them

Although I've never really seen one, I would think it would be obvious on the picture
I'm sitting about 8 feet away from the screen
A few dead subpixels is not noticeable at all, especially from 8 feet out. I find I have to be within 4 or 5 feet to barely see the three on mine, and it requires solid backgrounds of the dead color to expose them.
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I'll need to recheck because I haven't done any further comparisons and haven't touched the settings or even watched the TV in about a month.
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So far, it's a perfect picture
Will dead pixels be obvious?
Depends upon where they are, what causes them to appear (on a particular color or any and all colors), and how far back you're sitting.

For me, one dead subpixel is a dealbreaker.

You do make me wonder though: I wonder if people will be dramatically more forgiving of dead subs on the 4K sets.
If its visible when I am viewing a movie, gaming, or television, it's going back
But I'm not going to put slides up to search for them

Although I've never really seen one, I would think it would be obvious on the picture
I'm sitting about 8 feet away from the screen
A few dead subpixels is not noticeable at all, especially from 8 feet out. I find I have to be within 4 or 5 feet to barely see the three on mine, and it requires solid backgrounds of the dead color to expose them.
Your last paragraph really sums up my dilemma
At 8 ft, the tvs advantages aren't as apparent as sitting closer or having a larger screen
Part of me says wait until the larger screens come down in price so I can really enjoy the awesome picture
Not saying I'm not enjoying it now
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We techno/audio/video-philes are cursed. It's so very very hard to take a deep breath and wait.....

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Too late for me. Had I known three months ago that Fry's would have had a firesale (even though the closest Fry's is a few hours away), I would have no doubt waited. Also take into account that if you sit *too* close to the screen, you are more liable to see the grayscale uniformity defects, any aforementioned dead subpixels, more evident motion blur (as natural as it may be), and the screen-door effect caused by the spacing in the pixel structure.
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Just picked one up from SAMs
Got it home, set it up next to my 55st50 plasma and played the 4k robocop(1987) blu ray on both at the same time
It's a better picture for sure, just not sure it's $4k worth of a better picture
Going to try so more content on it

Any changes needed out of box(other than thx mode)?
Could you please make some comparison pictures? That would be great to get an idea of the picture difference.i have a gt20 and i am looking for a tv that can beat it.
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Anyone found a good world cup setting?
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Just picked one up from SAMs
Got it home, set it up next to my 55st50 plasma and played the 4k robocop(1987) blu ray on both at the same time
It's a better picture for sure, just not sure it's $4k worth of a better picture
Going to try so more content on it

Any changes needed out of box(other than thx mode)?
Could you please make some comparison pictures? That would be great to get an idea of the picture difference.i have a gt20 and i am looking for a tv that can beat it.
Any ideas on how to best accomplish it?
Only thing I can think of is running the only duplicate Blu ray I have and taking pics of a certain scene
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Just picked one up from SAMs
Got it home, set it up next to my 55st50 plasma and played the 4k robocop(1987) blu ray on both at the same time
It's a better picture for sure, just not sure it's $4k worth of a better picture
Going to try so more content on it

Any changes needed out of box(other than thx mode)?
Could you please make some comparison pictures? That would be great to get an idea of the picture difference.i have a gt20 and i am looking for a tv that can beat it.
Any ideas on how to best accomplish it?
Only thing I can think of is running the only duplicate Blu ray I have and taking pics of a certain scene
This would be great for a side by side comparison. You could also make one picture of the plasma and then make a other picture of the oled of the same picture
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Yep. Off.
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So far, it's a perfect picture
And who ever said you need to watch this in a completely dark room was right
Not that this tv requires the dark to excel, but it really shows off what it can do
That's because with any background light, you will lose the infinite contrast and drop down to something like 300:1. That's true of any TV because the black floor will be raised dramatically without a proportional increase in brightness. That's what makes OLED a tough sell in a store environment where brightness is the main factor affecting visible contrast. It also makes these TV's not worthwhile for people who can't use them in the right environment.

Sorry to hear Fry's jacked up the price. I wonder if LG is testing the waters with temporary price cuts or if Fry's got into trouble for undercutting everyone else. The price tags in the store had no indication that it was a temporary sale - those tags always have an expiration date on them.
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It also makes these TV's not worthwhile for people who can't use them in the right environment.
Bull. That's true of any tv then and less so of this one, as the oled's light output is capable of competing with the lights in a well lit room unlike most other sets. Of course the black floor is going to be raised with the lights on but that's just basic lighting dynamics and has nothing to do with this particular tv. In both a bright room and a dark room this is the tv you want to have. plasma can only really shine in a dimly lit room and LCD can only hide its flaws in a well lit room but oled performs well in both situations.

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It also makes these TV's not worthwhile for people who can't use them in the right environment.
Bull. That's true of any tv then and less so of this one, as the oled's light output is capable of competing with the lights in a well lit room unlike most other sets. Of course the black floor is going to be raised with the lights on but that's just basic lighting dynamics and has nothing to do with this particular tv. In both a bright room and a dark room this is the tv you want to have. plasma can only really shine in a dimly lit room and LCD can only hide its flaws in a well lit room but oled performs well in both situations.
Did you turn your brightness up? In my opinion, out of the box, this set more resembles a plasma vs LCD, in terms of brightness
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A bit better than your typical plasma. Interestingly, both the F8500 (64") and this OLED measured the same full-field white output (24 fTL).
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I have now tried all of the latest and greatest and have done a full circle back to LG OLED. So you think you can leave OLED? I dare you to try, you will be back
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^You seem rather clairvoyant for having picked a username like that. I already knew I was hooked on the first night of viewing (as I had a ZT in the other room!).
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Anyone know where in the picture menu I can find the following options to calibrate?
R high -2
G high -6
B high +2
R low -2
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I'm trying to setup flatpanelhd calibration settings
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It also makes these TV's not worthwhile for people who can't use them in the right environment.
Bull. That's true of any tv then and less so of this one, as the oled's light output is capable of competing with the lights in a well lit room unlike most other sets. Of course the black floor is going to be raised with the lights on but that's just basic lighting dynamics and has nothing to do with this particular tv. In both a bright room and a dark room this is the tv you want to have. plasma can only really shine in a dimly lit room and LCD can only hide its flaws in a well lit room but oled performs well in both situations.
Did you turn your brightness up? In my opinion, out of the box, this set more resembles a plasma vs LCD, in terms of brightness
I turned my brightness to the proper setting. You mean the OLED lights? Yeah, a bit I think. I have a setting for daylight and video games and another for dark room cinematic viewing. Who cares what it looks like out of the box? I'm talking about what it's capable of. It's capable of resembling either. Full field white enables ABL so it can go brighter than that.

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I have now tried all of the latest and greatest and have done a full circle back to LG OLED. So you think you can leave OLED? I dare you to try, you will be back

You change your mind more often than some people change their underwear. (LOL)
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Theplague, did you have you're professionally calibrated?
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I have now tried all of the latest and greatest and have done a full circle back to LG OLED. So you think you can leave OLED? I dare you to try, you will be back

You change your mind more often than some people change their underwear. (LOL)
I just had to know I had the best. This is a large investment and there are a lot of nice displays. The mistake I made was going OLED because once you have perfect blacks and contrast, how do you go backwards. Not knocking other displays, this one is just the one for me. I almost felt like crying when I did not have it and I was struggling to get a 900B to produce great black and never getting closer than very good. Flashlights are for working in the dark, not for TV watching.
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^That's how edgelits are. For me with the ZT60, it's glow in the dark...which is for kids and the elderly, not for watching TV!
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Theplague, did you have you're professionally calibrated?
No, that'd be really nice. Though I suppose even if I did I would still keep the two distinct settings.

Btw and just so we're clear, I'm not saying the OLED is objectively better than every plasma. I'm not that pompous about the OLED, I'm simply saying it is capable of suiting the widest range of viewing environments out of the three current display types.

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sadly people who are spending $4,000 on 55" 4K led sets think were just putting them down when we recommend OLED over the 55" 4k. I wish some of them would just give it a try, they will be surprised.
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Walked by the wall of TV's the other day in Microcenter and one display jumped out; had my head on a swivel as I walked by. I've only just recently started researching my first serious TV so I have zero frame of reference, but to my eyes it really popped.

I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with this picture though; you guys seem to be all over the Fry's deal for $3k+... but, check out this pricetag below. Seems too good to be true almost.

Sorry for the upside down image; posting from my iPad. If you can't read upside down the TL;DR = LG 55in OLED for $2k.
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WHOA, jackpot...get on that! Wish I still lived in a city with a Microcenta!
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I just had to know I had the best. This is a large investment and there are a lot of nice displays. The mistake I made was going OLED because once you have perfect blacks and contrast, how do you go backwards. Not knocking other displays, this one is just the one for me. I almost felt like crying when I did not have it and I was struggling to get a 900B to produce great black and never getting closer than very good. Flashlights are for working in the dark, not for TV watching.

I'm sure you made the right decision. Wishing you the best with the new set!
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WHOA, jackpot...get on that! Wish I still lived in a city with a Microcenta!
FWIW, their website shows the price is $4k. The store local to me has 6 in stock. I might have to make the drive there tomorrow because if it is $2k I'd probably have to buy one.

Of course if this makes it onto the deal sites and the local store has them for that price there won't be any by the time I can get there.

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You should camp out there...do they have one in Detroit?

Edit: Answered my own question. http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/default.aspx

I still owe double that for mine (miscalculated my taxes, which I discovered just after paying $4600 for one! Major ouch).

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Walked by the wall of TV's the other day in Microcenter and one display jumped out; had my head on a swivel as I walked by. I've only just recently started researching my first serious TV so I have zero frame of reference, but to my eyes it really popped.

I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with this picture though; you guys seem to be all over the Fry's deal for $3k+... but, check out this pricetag below. Seems too good to be true almost.

Sorry for the upside down image; posting from my iPad. If you can't read upside down the TL;DR = LG 55in OLED for $2k.
Which Micro Center location was that at (city/state)?
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