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You'll probably be okay, for now. But every time you watch some consecutive hours of LB you'll have to deal with it again. What annoys me is this small line in the bottom right that I incurred pre-300 hours, is completely burned in and never goes away. Its about 6 inches of the letterbox bar. It shows on grays and I see it in content maybe 5% of the time. When I run the slides it fixes it up till the one peice of line and that's it. It's been there since the first time I incurred the wear.
Geesh, you guys are really scaring me as it now seems everyone has this to some degree or another. I'm sorry to hear about this.

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Geesh, you guys are really scaring me as it now seems everyone has this to some degree or another. I'm sorry to hear about this.

I wonder how likely it will be that the 77" will be any better in this regard?
I don't think it would've burned in if I didn't stop the break in process early to test it. That was at somewhere between 200 and 250 hours. Since then everything's been fixable with "maintenence'.

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I have 79 hours on my LG. It will be 2 weeks on Sunday since I brought it home. I plugged it in and have been enjoying it since. No break in procedures. I have not noticed any IR or burn in. Not that I'm pixel peeping or looking for it. Just enjoying the great PQ just like I did with my Pioneer Kuro 110 FD.
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Kinglm, only full screen, 16:9 material on yours, no LB?
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How many hours on your panel? Why would you do this b4 running 300 hours break-in? I hope your warranty will cover you if you get true burn-in because LG will not.
Not sure, probably close to 30-40, is there a way to check?

Do what? Watch lb movies? Is a 2 hr movie really going to permanently damage this set? I hope not and am counting on it, because if it does, it's going back.
I'm not so confident that it's going to cause permanent burn in, plague has gotten rid of almost all of his and is barely visible with normal content
Most of what I watch is full screen and to be honest, I ran 6 hrs straight of lb movies right out of the box and never saw ir or burn in, but I also wasn't running slides looking for it
I know that would be ignoring the fact that it's there but if this panel shows the ability to lose the ir, then I'm confident in watching lb movies on it

Also, jan 2014 build date
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I have 79 hours on my LG. It will be 2 weeks on Sunday since I brought it home. I plugged it in and have been enjoying it since. No break in procedures. I have not noticed any IR or burn in. Not that I'm pixel peeping or looking for it. Just enjoying the great PQ just like I did with my Pioneer Kuro 110 FD.
But have you watched alot of LB content or no?

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Not sure, probably close to 30-40, is there a way to check?

Do what? Watch lb movies? Is a 2 hr movie really going to permanently damage this set? I hope not and am counting on it, because if it does, it's going back.
I'm not so confident that it's going to cause permanent burn in, plague has gotten rid of almost all of his and is barely visible with normal content
Most of what I watch is full screen and to be honest, I ran 6 hrs straight of lb movies right out of the box and never saw ir or burn in, but I also wasn't running slides looking for it
I know that would be ignoring the fact that it's there but if this panel shows the ability to lose the ir, then I'm confident in watching lb movies on it

Also, jan 2014 build date
My point was that I can get rid of everything I incurred after 300 hours. It gets easier as time goes on. Most likely you'll be fine but it doesn't hurt to be careful at the beginning. I'm not sure why anyone would want to risk it; break in is an easy tradeoff for peace of mind.

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My point was that I can get rid of everything I incurred after 300 hours.
Had did you come to 300 as the benchmark? How many lb movies did you watch prior to 300 hours?
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I have 113 hours and zero IR same three green sub-pixels out, all else looks good.
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Kinglm, only full screen, 16:9 material on yours, no LB?
On balance so far cable programming full screen. Although a few 16:9 blu rays to experience the PQ, but no extended watching sessions. Hope to do that soon.
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Had did you come to 300 as the benchmark? How many lb movies did you watch prior to 300 hours?
Vinnie actually, lol. But I guess it's a benchmark used for plasma. Essentially I figured it out myself by going about 200 hours, and then watching the Hobbit. So about 3 hours of Letterbox. I saw the line, got rid of most of it but a bit stuck. So at that point I went about another 150 hours with the slides when I was at work or overnight, and only full screen while watching tv. After that I still got the wear but it would take longer and resolve itself faster.

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Want to be impressed. Watch YouTube video called, Vancouver City 2 in 4K Ultra. It looks better than the 4k on my Sony 900B.
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On balance so far cable programming full screen. Although a few 16:9 blu rays to experience the PQ, but no extended watching sessions. Hope to do that soon.
So you wouldn't have IR. You didn't watch anything that would cause it.

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Vinnie, lol. But I guess it's a benchmark used for plasma. Essentially I fired it out myself by going about 200 hours, and then watching the Hobbit. So about 3 hours of Letterbox. I saw the line, got rid of most of it but a but stuck. So at that point I went about another 150 hours with the slides when I was at work or overnight, and only full screen while watching tv. After that I still got the wear but it would take longer and resolve itself faster.
After this movie is over(lb), I'm going to pop in a bright 16:9(district 9) and look for the lb ir
I'm not sure we can classify the aging of this panel in the same way we did plasma
I understand the concept though and reasons to do so

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Want to be impressed. Watch YouTube video called, Vancouver City 2 in 4K Ultra. It looks better the the 4k on my Sony 900B.
I've been watching a lot of 4k youtube vids, I'll check it out
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No, we can't, but break-in won't hurt. I just used the Panasonic Viera 2013 line as a baseline (from when the more extensive drifting stops) and went from there. It seemed to develop more resilience to IR afterwards, though that could also be down to placebo.
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Here, take a look. That's permantent, but it isn't as noticeable when the screen isn't dimmed.
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Here, take a look. That's permantent, but it isn't as noticeable when the screen isn't dimmed.
What's the brightness set at?
Tempted to run the same brightness and see if any ir pops
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I just let the screen auto-dim, so it's easier to capture on film; so you just idle a few minutes on a solid color background, preferrably gray. The brightness is 51 though

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**EDIT** Most likely you'll be fine but it doesn't hurt to be careful at the beginning. I'm not sure why anyone would want to risk it; break in is an easy tradeoff for peace of mind.
Funny, I offered the same cautionary note a few pages back and it was suggested that I was hiding my head in the sand.
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Geesh, you guys are really scaring me as it now seems everyone has this to some degree or another. I'm sorry to hear about this.

I wonder how likely it will be that the 77" will be any better in this regard?
I think every new generation of OLED will improve on uneven wear and burn-in. There are so many tricks that can be done with self-diagnostics, and that is just software innovations. Then there's improvements in the hardware too.
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Good news on two fronts
-last night, after the lb movie, I watched some youtube content and a full screen movie, no evidence of ir during that content
-first thing this am, I turn on the tv to the same blue background I initially saw the ir on, no evidence of ir

This set seems to be pretty resilient as seems to go as easy as it comes
I'll continue to be the guinea pig owner that runs 50/50 lb to full screen
Will be watching the Lego movie tonight with the kids

Plaque, would you be open to turning down the brightness to 50, and seeing if the ir is there during normal content
Shades of gray really seem to expose the flaws, especially in your pic above( a gray pic that got lighter as it sat)
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I'm wondering if this LB IR is just a matter of ABL or something similar that was kept in effect right after the movie? If so, turn off the TV or watch something else will reset the software back. Just like my Panny plasma, I don't really get worried about the temporary IR at all. Never used any slides to cure them and no burn-in after couple years.
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I'm wondering if this LB IR is just a matter of ABL or something similar that was kept in effect right after the movie? If so, turn off the TV or watch something else will reset the software back. Just like my Panny plasma, I don't really get worried about the temporary IR at all. Never used any slides to cure them and no burn-in after couple years.
that would make more sense than an off pixel burning in
and i didnt clarify prior, but i had to be a few feet from the screen to see the faint ir, when i sit on the couch(aprox 8 ft), it isnt visible
so i guess in that respect, it could have been there during full screen content, i just wouldnt have seen it due to distance

one thing i did see which kind of bothered me is that the gray lightness/darkness is not uniform. my upper right hand side of the screen is always darker than the rest, and i can only see this with the screen in a dark gray setting
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Good news on two fronts
-last night, after the lb movie, I watched some youtube content and a full screen movie, no evidence of ir during that content
-first thing this am, I turn on the tv to the same blue background I initially saw the ir on, no evidence of ir

This set seems to be pretty resilient as seems to go as easy as it comes
I'll continue to be the guinea pig owner that runs 50/50 lb to full screen
Will be watching the Lego movie tonight with the kids

Plaque, would you be open to turning down the brightness to 50, and seeing if the ir is there during normal content
Shades of gray really seem to expose the flaws, especially in your pic above( a gray pic that got lighter as it sat)
One notch down on the brightness is not going to fix it. Unfortunately, it's been there for months, and is more visible on darker tones than lighter ones. The background in that photo wasnt even gray, it was green.

A few months ago vinnie was our guinnea pig, who watched a full letterboxed trilogy (after break in). He incurred some serious IR but was able to fight it off. If you want to be a guinnea pig of more recent panels, watch at least 3 lengthy LB movies in a row, lol. Of course I won't blame you if you dont want to

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One notch down on the brightness is not going to fix it. Unfortunately, it's been there for months, and is more visible on darker tones than lighter ones. The background in that photo wasnt even gray, it was green.

A few months ago vinnie was our guinnea pig, who watched a full letterboxed trilogy (after break in). He incurred some serious IR but was able to fight it off. If you want to be a guinnea pig of more recent panels, watch at least 3 lengthy LB movies in a row, lol. Of course I won't blame you if you dont want to
The first 6 hours on this tv was letterbox movies(robocop(2014), Elysium, riddick)
I will do it again this Sunday when my father comes over and I'll post the results

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I can't believe people are paying so much for dielectric grease or silicon. More than likely that's all it is could be doped, but not worth the money. IMO
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I can't believe people are paying so much for dielectric grease or silicon. More than likely that's all it is could be doped, but not worth the money. IMO
You mean you don't use diamond hdmi cables either? Damn dude, you've completely lost it.
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