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havent seen it, how many hours on the set?
I've got 60 hours on it. Really??? It's so obvious when you go to extreme viewing angles that the overall tint on the picture starts get yellow. Maybe not even yellow so much but the white levels start to change from white to something else. In my case it turns more yellow than white.

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Hey guys. I've been a proud owner of this set for the last few weeks. The picture is just simply gorgeous on this tv and it's been hard to nit pick. This is really the first time that I've just sat back and enjoyed a new tv without trying to find all the faults I read about on the forums.

Here comes the but, but I've noticed something that kinda bothers me but not enough to be a huge distraction. There seems to be this yellow tint to the picture that I can't quite get rid of no matter what settings I choose. It's not bad, but I do notice it. It's especially noticeable on skin tones and also on white colors. Again, it's not terrible but it's something I can see. Another thing, when I start to view this at an angle and even more so at extreme angles, a yellow tint starts to come over the picture. Just curious if others notice either one of these things I've explained. Thanks
What mode are u using? exspert ones looks more yellow than the other picture modes set colour space to r709 in settings
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I've got 60 hours on it. Really??? It's so obvious when you go to extreme viewing angles that the overall tint on the picture starts get yellow. Maybe not even yellow so much but the white levels start to change from white to something else. In my case it turns more yellow than white.
I haven't seen it on content, but I just pulled up my slides, the white one, and I'll be damned, it did look a little yellow in tint, not sure if these pics capture it, but it did look yellow
The further I got from the screen, the less apparent it was and as you said, less apparent from the front


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I haven't seen it on content, but I just pulled up my slides, the white one, and I'll be damned, it did look a little yellow in tint, not sure if these pics capture it, but it did look yellow
The further I got from the screen, the less apparent it was and as you said, less apparent from the front


Good. Thanks for checking on that for me. I don't mind it as long as I know it's not a defect. If that's normal for this tv than I can stop worrying. Do u notice it on normal content?

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No sir, haven't seen it on content
Since your seeing it in faces, ill keep an eye out, about to watch the new Thor movie

And damn, pacific rim looks so good on this tv
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Yes seen the 3D version 2times on it.
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Hey guys. I've been a proud owner of this set for the last few weeks. The picture is just simply gorgeous on this tv and it's been hard to nit pick. This is really the first time that I've just sat back and enjoyed a new tv without trying to find all the faults I read about on the forums.

Here comes the but, but I've noticed something that kinda bothers me but not enough to be a huge distraction. There seems to be this yellow tint to the picture that I can't quite get rid of no matter what settings I choose. It's not bad, but I do notice it. It's especially noticeable on skin tones and also on white colors. Again, it's not terrible but it's something I can see. Another thing, when I start to view this at an angle and even more so at extreme angles, a yellow tint starts to come over the picture. Just curious if others notice either one of these things I've explained. Thanks
I haven't seen what you describe on my LG either. I toggle between the predefined THX setting and the ones found here which for me has a brighter overall feel. With one tweak contrast at 88 instead of 80.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.p...&id=1388765934

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I haven't seen it on content, but I just pulled up my slides, the white one, and I'll be damned, it did look a little yellow in tint, not sure if these pics capture it, but it did look yellow
The further I got from the screen, the less apparent it was and as you said, less apparent from the front


5X10, it may just be the pictures, but it looks like there's a bit of an issue with white uniformity. On my monitor I see some colored splotches not unlike what you typically see with an LCD/LED. Do you see this with your naked eye or is the camera accentuating it?
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5X10, it may just be the pictures, but it looks like there's a bit of an issue with white uniformity. On my monitor I see some colored splotches not unlike what you typically see with an LCD/LED. Do you see this with your naked eye or is the camera accentuating it?
it looked more yellow to the naked eye, after thinking about it, it kind of looks like the outline of the back panel, on a white screen

I'll try to capture it on camera after this movie

Edit: since my kids were in the room, I paused the movie and switched to white slide
I asked my kids and they said yellow
It almost looks like a 4:3 screen, outside bars are white, inside part has yellow tint, which reminded me of the outline of the back panel
I also saw it on a the gray slides, except for the dark one
I don't see the yellow straight on

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So you see no pinkish areas like I'm seeing in your pix?
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So you see no pinkish areas like I'm seeing in your pix?
no sir, its the camera
i was going to post a straight shot of a white screen, but my camera picks it up with a blue hue, that isnt there in person
camera is off an ipad
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What is the color of your wall? I suspect at full brightness of white, it is strong enough to lite up the wall and cause reflection on the screen.
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What is the color of your wall? I suspect at full brightness of white, it is strong enough to lite up the wall and cause reflection on the screen.
Could be the couches or the flooring, agree with you on the reflection
Would be interested to see what's in the other members(thats also reporting this)room
are you seeing this at all on your set?



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My wall is yellowish/egg shell color. Only at full white screen, I can barely see the very faint yellow tint in the middle of the screen. I'd categorize this as the curse of the curved screen

BTW, I'm very disappointed by the full white screen. It is severely affected by ABL into a greyish white instead of bright white.
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Following post by Chad B on the first page of this thread expressed the same yellow tint:


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White field uniformity was excellent, with no visible changes across the screen. Black uniformity was not an issue since black was totally dark. Off axis, whites take on a more off white, yellowish tone, but otherwise the picture appears to have no change. Images are perfectly watchable at extreme off axis angles, though with the curved screen and white balance shift giving a distinctive character.
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Following post by Chad B on the first page of this thread expressed the same yellow tint:
good find, another thing on this tv not to worry about

things will start to worry me when they start effecting content
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I think lb content will effect this tv over time
It reminds me of my Mitsubishi rear projection tv I bought in 04
I didn't utilize the hd 16:9 content and had 4:3 black bar "burn in", in that, the sides were brighter than the middle, noticeably
Due to the aging of these panels, I would think an off pixel will not age as fast as an on pixel, and over time, the top and bottom of the screen will appear as bright
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I think lb content will effect this tv over time
It reminds me of my Mitsubishi rear projection tv I bought in 04
I didn't utilize the hd 16:9 content and had 4:3 black bar "burn in", in that, the sides were brighter than the middle, noticeably
Due to the aging of these panels, I would think an off pixel will not age as fast as an on pixel, and over time, the top and bottom of the screen will appear as bright
Just remember, it's recently been postulated that any IR or burn-in is likely due to a weakness present in all of LG's TV backplanes at present, and not the OLED pixels themselves.

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Just remember, it's recently been postulated that any IR or burn-in is likely due to a weakness present in all of LG's TV backplanes at present, and not the OLED pixels themselves.

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Well, it's a theory at least. Time will tell what's actually going on with these TVs. I actually hope that this is not the case because IR caused by backplane issues is something that LG is unlikely to solve in any foreseeable future (it's been going on for at least a decade on their LCDs). On their LCDs, this issue also gets worse with age - to the point where it starts to behave like burn-in after 4+ years to usage.


I'm kind of surprised that owners report IR gets reduced over time and by doing the break-in slides. That's definitely not the case with LG LCDs.
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No, the IR is reduced or eliminated by simply turn off the TV. There is no evidence that running slides did anything to help. So, this could just be a software issue.
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Just remember, it's recently been postulated that any IR or burn-in is likely due to a weakness present in all of LG's TV backplanes at present, and not the OLED pixels themselves.

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I was thinking more long term, not after a few movies with lb

I should have clarified, I didn't use 16:9 for years with my old Mitsubishi , so the ratio of 16:9/4:3 will be much larger than my current 16:9/lb movie watching on the oled, meaning I probably won't experience it nearly as much as my old tv did
But, there's no doubt oled will age, the question is how fast
And if someone is a heavy lb movie watcher, I think it could pose a problem down the line (pure speculation on my part)

It also made me realize that pretty much every tv i have had has issues
Burn in on a rear projection tv, plasma burn in, etc
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If the reported 30,000 hour of pixel life without noticeable brightness change is remotely true, one should not worry about permanent burn in at all unless you run LB bars or same static station logo every day for a real long time.
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I wouldn't be so certain of that. It all depends how they're getting 30k hours of life. For example, if they were gradually increasing the drive current over time to negate the luminace loss of the pixels, by 30k hours there's no additional headroom for the drive current to be increased further and you start to lose brightness. In this sort of case the long flat lifetime would not automatically mean the pixels are highly resistant to burn-in.
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But 30,000 hours are still a long time to go, especially for a persistent pattern to burn in. Eventually they will but you will be probably looking for new TVs already at that time.
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i know im proably talking semantics here, but would it be called "burn in" if you see differences in the brightness of the screen? Meaning, the LB portion of the screen will appear brighter because those pixels havent aged as much as the rest of the panel
nothing burned in, it just aged at different rates due to use/non use
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No, the IR is reduced or eliminated by simply turn off the TV. There is no evidence that running slides did anything to help. So, this could just be a software issue.
It should be known that you are speaking for yourself here, and it's not necessarily applicable to every owner (some at over 1000 hours of usage now). Sure, some could be experiencing placebo, but these definitive declarations don't do anybody any good.
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i know im proably talking semantics here, but would it be called "burn in" if you see differences in the brightness of the screen? Meaning, the LB portion of the screen will appear brighter because those pixels havent aged as much as the rest of the panel
nothing burned in, it just aged at different rates due to use/non use
That's the text book definition of a burn-in.
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I'm looking at the Cleveland AV price today and thinking more & more about this set. But all this talk of IR has very worried since I watch quite a bit of letterboxed BluRay. Can any owners say that they have *no* IR, even after watching many hours of letterboxed movies?

Also, I watch a lot of NFL football on my TV. How is this TV with motion blur?
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It should be known that you are speaking for yourself here, and it's not necessarily applicable to every owner (some at over 1000 hours of usage now). Sure, some could be experiencing placebo, but these definitive declarations don't do anybody any good.
There are a few owners posted the same observations as mine while you were gone (welcome back BTW). I'd still like to proclaim that there is little or no evidence to support that running slides is necessary for this temporary IR.
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