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markjl's Avatar markjl 10:46 AM 07-28-2014
Is anyone using a sound bar with this TV? I am assuming the optical out is PCM 2.0. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks

Vegas oled's Avatar Vegas oled 10:49 AM 07-28-2014
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It may not be viewable with content (at least for now). However, it shouldn't be there in the first place. If it is induced by the process of bending the panel into the curve, what other type of stresses are being introduced that could become more evident over time?
You have zero evidence it has anything to do with the curved panel and you make lots of assumption. Every review states OLED is superior, the negative attacks do not change it. With every negative you can imagine might happen, OLED blows away every LCD panel ever made, period.
Vegas oled's Avatar Vegas oled 10:55 AM 07-28-2014
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Is anyone using a sound bar with this TV? I am assuming the optical out is PCM 2.0. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks
I tried a few and some costing a lot more but settled with the Energy sound bar at $499. It is excellent and leaves you some cash to purchase good learning remote which you will want to control everything.
Vegas oled's Avatar Vegas oled 11:00 AM 07-28-2014
Really tired of people making up BS to attack the OLED display, now making bogus claims of things getting worse over time. Just keep your LCD and know that OLED owners are enjoying a far superior display than you.

My OLED will smoke any current 4K LCD made, yes it will make it look like the obsolete edge lit LCD it is.

4K OLED weeks away, now we will see cutting edge technologies merge to a 4K set worth purchasing.
JWhip's Avatar JWhip 11:12 AM 07-28-2014
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You have zero evidence it has anything to do with the curved panel and you make lots of assumption. Every review states OLED is superior, the negative attacks do not change it. With every negative you can imagine might happen, OLED blows away every LCD panel ever made, period.

Get a grip there Vegas, this is not life and death. No one is attacking you for having an OLED. IT IS JUST A TV!!!!! I am very interested in OLED. I have seen them all. I like the potential. I would one day love to own one. However, I will not buy a curved one. The one poster on AVS who has the flat OLED says he does not have any screen uniformity issues. I saw the flat OLED in London last summer and on a white field, saw no uniformity issues either. All the curved ones seem to have it. Therefore, it is reasonable to ask if the curve is the problem. Maybe it is the electronics or poor QC, whatever it is, IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE! Yes, OLED has a great picture. Better than LCD, with that I wouldn't argue. However, that being said, there are far too many issues with it for me to consider one at this time. If I didn't have a 141, maybe I would think about it. But, NEVER with a curve and only 55 inches. If LG comes out with a flat 65" 4K that supports all the 4 K specs, let me know.
markjl's Avatar markjl 11:13 AM 07-28-2014
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I tried a few and some costing a lot more but settled with the Energy sound bar at $499. It is excellent and leaves you some cash to purchase good learning remote which you will want to control everything.
Thanks, Vegas oled. I assume that is the Energy Power Bar Elite. Amazon has a pretty good price on that one. Did you hook the sound bar up to the optical out on the TV or go direct from the source?
Yappadappadu's Avatar Yappadappadu 11:17 AM 07-28-2014
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Really tired of people making up BS to attack the OLED display, now making bogus claims of things getting worse over time. Just keep your LCD and know that OLED owners are enjoying a far superior display than you.

My OLED will smoke any current 4K LCD made, yes it will make it look like the obsolete edge lit LCD it is.

4K OLED weeks away, now we will see cutting edge technologies merge to a 4K set worth purchasing.
You're really overreacting. Not for the first time. I doubt that anyone here is trying to belittle the current OLED sets just to make himself feel better for having a LED TV.
I am still very interested in buying the 65EC9700, but like to read whatever problems possibly might exist.
Vegas oled's Avatar Vegas oled 11:18 AM 07-28-2014
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Thanks, Vegas oled. I assume that is the Energy Power Bar Elite. Amazon has a pretty good price on that one. Did you hook the sound bar up to the optical out on the TV or go direct from the source?
Yes and it sound great. You will want a learning remote as the one that comes with it is a small cheaply. I tried the Martin Logan and B&W, I felt they overdid the bass tying to do it all without a sub, the Energy is nicer sounding to me.

The one thing I do miss about the 900B is the speakers. The sound bar really helped fill that sound void.
markjl's Avatar markjl 11:22 AM 07-28-2014
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Yes and it sound great. You will want a learning remote as the one that comes with it is a small cheaply. I tried the Martin Logan and B&W, I felt they overdid the bass tying to do it all without a sub, the Energy is nicer sounding to me.

The one thing I do miss about the 900B is the speakers. The sound bar really helped fill that sound void.
Thanks again. Hate to keep bugging you, but what learning remote did you go with?
5x10's Avatar 5x10 11:48 AM 07-28-2014
i think its fair to question if the curve causes uniformity issues since curved owners here are seeing some and the flat are not

vak, a curved owner, reports no yellowing on the left hand side, so there might be some case to case issues that come up
another flat owner at avforums reports no uniformity issues

mine has a slight yellow tint on the left hand side during a white screen and slightly darker grays on the right hand side during a gray slide
but, i havent seen either during content(not saying its not there, but VERY hard to see during content,even when i look for it)
and im coming from being able to see a logo burn in on everything, on my plasma, where my wife has a hard time seeing it
tgm1024's Avatar tgm1024 11:51 AM 07-28-2014
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Really tired of people making up BS to attack the OLED display, now making bogus claims of things getting worse over time. Just keep your LCD and know that OLED owners are enjoying a far superior display than you.

My OLED will smoke any current 4K LCD made, yes it will make it look like the obsolete edge lit LCD it is.

4K OLED weeks away, now we will see cutting edge technologies merge to a 4K set worth purchasing.
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You're really overreacting. Not for the first time. I doubt that anyone here is trying to belittle the current OLED sets just to make himself feel better for having a LED TV.
I am still very interested in buying the 65EC9700, but like to read whatever problems possibly might exist.
Yep. I can't for the life of me understand anyone trying to emotionally defend a chunk of technology and taking any negative comment or detracting speculation about it as some personal affront. Really, this kind of "stop picking on my TV" business doesn't belong here.
Foxbat121's Avatar Foxbat121 12:05 PM 07-28-2014
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i think its fair to question if the curve causes uniformity issues since curved owners here are seeing some and the flat are not
I'd take these reports with a grain of salt. To spot the so-called uniformity issue, one has to view it in a dark room using the dark gray images. I can't spot any such issue with mine until I did it this way. Viewing in my normal viewing lighting, there isn't any uniformity issue.
Vegas oled's Avatar Vegas oled 12:07 PM 07-28-2014
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Yep. I can't for the life of me understand anyone trying to emotionally defend a chunk of technology and taking any negative comment or detracting speculation about it as some personal affront. Really, this kind of "stop picking on my TV" business doesn't belong here.
Let's talk about facts, not assumptions. The experts believe the grey scale issue is caused by thin panels, I don't know. Most people don't know it is there because you cannot see it WO a slide. I would bet it is on the flat panel and the owner does not know it. Why asked the guy to run a slide and start nit- picking his tv on an issue he does not see?

My guess is the new sets will not have it with the 10bit panels. Very interested to find out. It's the way some people post their question, it tells you a lot.

What I hate to see us someone not purchase an OLED because someone made up stuff or assumed something .

There are issues with any display. The stupid stuff you see here with people taking photos of white screens at an angle to see some edge color that will never effect content is absurd.

Like the review stated on the newest OLED, any negatives about OLED picture quality are only going to be from nit pickers
5x10's Avatar 5x10 12:17 PM 07-28-2014
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I'd take these reports with a grain of salt. To spot the so-called uniformity issue, one has to view it in a dark room using the dark gray images. I can't spot any such issue with mine until I did it this way. Viewing in my normal viewing lighting, there isn't any uniformity issue.
well, one guy that reports 0 is also a calibrator, so im assuming he has the knowledge to know what it is and where to look for it
5x10's Avatar 5x10 12:23 PM 07-28-2014
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There are issues with any display. The stupid stuff you see here with people taking photos of white screens at an angle to see some edge color that will never effect content is absurd.
to be fair, i have a bit of yellow tint viewing it from head on, but, it still takes a slide to see it
i do dread the one day, where i see it on content, but havent seen it yet

i do lol when Ken ross comes in a thread and says " oh wow, lg states only 1 hour at a time to prevent burn in. what a shame" when he fails to see that LG also says the 1 hour about plasma and 2 hours for lcd
i do wonder if there are alterior motives for posting something like that, considering that ken seems pretty up to speed on tv tech
tgm1024's Avatar tgm1024 12:45 PM 07-28-2014
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What I hate to see us someone not purchase an OLED because someone made up stuff or assumed something .

There are issues with any display. The stupid stuff you see here with people taking photos of white screens at an angle to see some edge color that will never effect content is absurd.
No it isn't. I would WANT to know how this display performs in every way before buying it.


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Like the review stated on the newest OLED, any negatives about OLED picture quality are only going to be from nit pickers
Then try this: let the nit pickers talk to those that want nit picking advice. It's that simple. Stop with the notion that people are somehow being unfair to a TV. I see absolutely nothing wrong with talking about yellow tint, or gray levels, or anything else related to this TV whether it's positive or negative, nitpicking or not!

Good grief, it's a chunk of hardware that we all want to know as much about as possible.
tgm1024's Avatar tgm1024 12:47 PM 07-28-2014
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i do lol when Ken ross comes in a thread and says " oh wow, lg states only 1 hour at a time to prevent burn in. what a shame" when he fails to see that LG also says the 1 hour about plasma and 2 hours for lcd
LG says to not watch more than 2 hours at a time for LCD???????? Where???????
Vegas oled's Avatar Vegas oled 12:54 PM 07-28-2014
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No it isn't. I would WANT to know how this display performs in every way before buying it.




Then try this: let the nit pickers talk to those that want nit picking advice. It's that simple. Stop with the notion that people are somehow being unfair to a TV. I see absolutely nothing wrong with talking about yellow tint, or gray levels, or anything else related to this TV whether it's positive or negative, nitpicking or not!

Good grief, it's a chunk of hardware that we all want to know as much about as possible.
This Is a fact, if you don't own one, you don't own the best performing display made. It will destroy any
LCD and make anyone's plasmas blacks look grey.

Keep not-picking, I will keep enjoying truly next-gen technology, OLED the future is hear now and any other display is old technology.
Vegas oled's Avatar Vegas oled 12:57 PM 07-28-2014
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LG says to not watch more than 2 hours at a time for LCD???????? Where???????
Act like it's an OLED your trying to find negative about and you will find it, lol
5x10's Avatar 5x10 12:59 PM 07-28-2014
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LG says to not watch more than 2 hours at a time for LCD???????? Where???????
go pull up the manual on any lcd tv off of LG's website, its printed on one of the first few pages
i did it last week and it says 2 hours for lcd and 1 hour for plasma

for example, click link, then open the pdf of the manual
http://www.lg.com/us/support-product/lg-55UB8500

pg 5, on the right hand side, states




Avoid displaying a fixed image on the TV

screen for a long period of time (2 or more

hours for LCD, 1 or more hours for the

Plasma TV) to prevent image burn.

Yappadappadu's Avatar Yappadappadu 12:59 PM 07-28-2014
@vegas : Maybe take a deep breath?
@tgm : He's talking about the burn in warning in every LG manual. We've been there several times already.
Vegas oled's Avatar Vegas oled 01:10 PM 07-28-2014
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@vegas : Maybe take a deep breath?
@tgm : He's talking about the burn in warning in every LG manual. We've been there several times already.
I know what's he's talking about, he almost had a heart attack when someone mentioned something about LCD. The haters will keep bashing as the smart people are coming aboard the OLED train. We have also been through the 10ire grey scale issue that the same few keep rehashing every couple weeks.
tgm1024's Avatar tgm1024 01:25 PM 07-28-2014
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go pull up the manual on any lcd tv off of LG's website, its printed on one of the first few pages
i did it last week and it says 2 hours for lcd and 1 hour for plasma

for example, click link, then open the pdf of the manual
http://www.lg.com/us/support-product/lg-55UB8500

pg 5, on the right hand side, states




Avoid displaying a fixed image on the TV

screen for a long period of time (2 or more

hours for LCD, 1 or more hours for the

Plasma TV) to prevent image burn.
That's amazing CYA on their part! Yikes.
tgm1024's Avatar tgm1024 01:37 PM 07-28-2014
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@vegas : Maybe take a deep breath?
@tgm : He's talking about the burn in warning in every LG manual. We've been there several times already.
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I know what's he's talking about, he almost had a heart attack when someone mentioned something about LCD. The haters will keep bashing as the smart people are coming aboard the OLED train. We have also been through the 10ire grey scale issue that the same few keep rehashing every couple weeks.
Yappadappadu was directing the "He's talking about" to me, not you. He was referring to 5x10's comment.

What I was amazed at was that there would be a warning at all about an LCD in a manual for as little as 2 hours. I understand how the technology works, and that's just an absurdly short period of time unless there is something really wrong. Especially if you consider the folks using LCDs who play video games with fixed HUDs and crosshairs, and the like. I had my old LCD Sony monitor with the screen saver turned off with a bright white window stay on over a 3 day weekend and no IR. It really looks like an over zealous CYA.

But what I DIDN'T have was a "heart attack" over someone attacking my TV in some personal way like you apparently do. I'll leave that kind of childish defensiveness to you and your OLED. I was expressing surprise that LG would bother with such a warning.

And WHERE on earth do you get that I'm a hater of OLEDs? Seriously, you need to just relax, take a look around, and realize that you're on an audio/video science forum. Repeat this to yourself: "It's just a TV", "It's just a TV", "It's just a TV".....
5x10's Avatar 5x10 02:07 PM 07-28-2014
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That's amazing CYA on their part! Yikes.
even more amazing that some forum members report this as being real burn in worries, even though the issue has been addrssed several times as being ultra conservative time frames from the manufacturer
Vegas oled's Avatar Vegas oled 02:08 PM 07-28-2014
[QUOTE=tgm1024;

"It's just a TV", "It's just a TV", "It's just a TV".....[/QUOTE]

You need to take your own advise. You have spent the last several months criticizing the OLED and admitting you are nit-picking every aspect of OLED.

Its just a a TV, unless you like to put up 5 ire grey scale slides and stair at the screen. It's Just a TV, a Dam good one I might add.

The funny thing is none of you guys will ever be OLED owners
Ken Ross's Avatar Ken Ross 02:09 PM 07-28-2014
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Like the review stated on the newest OLED, any negatives about OLED picture quality are only going to be from nit pickers
And that's what AVS is largely comprised of, nitpickers. So why do the questions and comments upset or surprise you?
Vegas oled's Avatar Vegas oled 02:14 PM 07-28-2014
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And that's what AVS is largely comprised of, nitpickers. So why do the questions and comments upset or surprise you?
With you Ken I do believe you are just doing extremely analytical research. I do believe you will one day own a 77" OLED.
Ken Ross's Avatar Ken Ross 02:18 PM 07-28-2014
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i do lol when Ken ross comes in a thread and says " oh wow, lg states only 1 hour at a time to prevent burn in. what a shame" when he fails to see that LG also says the 1 hour about plasma and 2 hours for lcd
i do wonder if there are alterior motives for posting something like that, considering that ken seems pretty up to speed on tv tech
No, actually it was and is a very honest concern for a tech I'm seriously considering. If you take LG's stated hour limits, they are saying that OLED is twice as susceptible to IR or burn-in as plasma.

Personally, that's a concern I must take into account in the purchasing decision. My wife would not appreciate me 'cleaning the screen' after every movie.

Some of you guys need to be a little less defensive and a bit more objective about the concerns expressed by prospective owners. We are genuinely interested or wouldn't be wasting our time here.

BTW 5x10, I'm not as up on OLED tech as I should be. Yet another reason I'm here.
5x10's Avatar 5x10 02:22 PM 07-28-2014
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No, actually it was and is a very honest concern for a tech I'm seriously considering. If you take LG's stated hour limits, they are saying that OLED is twice as susceptible to IR or burn-in as plasma.

Personally, that's a concern I must take into account in the purchasing decision. My wife would not appreciate me 'cleaning the screen' after every movie.

Some of you guys need to be a little less defensive and a bit more objective about the concerns expressed by prospective owners. We are genuinely interested or wouldn't be wasting our time here.

BTW 5x10, I'm not as up on OLED tech as I should be. Yet another reason I'm here.
actually, oled and plasma both have 1 hour time frames
and lcd has 2 hours
so plasma and oled is twice as susceptible to IR when compared to LCD, but I also have to take that with a grain of salt as they are saying no more than 2 hours for LCD
thats just plain crazy

Avoid displaying a fixed image on the TV

screen for a long period of time (2 or more

hours for LCD, 1 or more hours for the

Plasma TV) to prevent image burn.




Ken, take off your LCD glasses when reading the above
i kid, i kid


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