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The blue looks to be about 2X larger, but you are correct - the aging effect may not be linear (in which case one way to greatly extend the lifetime of your OLED would be to watch in a dark room :-)
And watching it when it's off would extend it still further.
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I am sorry to disagree sir. I have witnessed LCD burn in (to toast) on more than a dozen panels just in 1 airport. Far from bullet proof in the wrong application. It might be rare, but but even the beloved consumer LCD is susceptible.
But Barry, in terms of actual susceptibility to burn-in, we're talking utterly huge differences between LCD and plasma/OLED.
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From the photo the OLED looks much sharper. Of course your eyes will see things different than the camera.
White balance of the two displays is dramatically different with the OLED looking much cooler. That alone could account for a difference in 'apparent' sharpness. I'd bet the larger display is closer to being properly calibrated.
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Well I think I'm going to keep my 950 and return the oled. Don't get me wrong the oled is unreal set. The draw backs On the oled are the same things that bothered me with all my plasmas. If the tv was for my theater room id pick the oled for sure in a bigger size but since this is my work horse tv I like the 950 brightness and no worries of IR. In the future I can definitely see my self getting an oled.
So Adam, it's basically fear of IR & burn-in that are causing you to return the OLED? Have you seen actual evidence of either on your particular unit?
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Well I think I'm going to keep my 950 and return the oled. Don't get me wrong the oled is unreal set. The draw backs On the oled are the same things that bothered me with all my plasmas. If the tv was for my theater room id pick the oled for sure in a bigger size but since this is my work horse tv I like the 950 brightness and no worries of IR. In the future I can definitely see my self getting an oled.
I would wait until the 65" OLED Come out. Of course 10" is a lot of screen size, to me worth the sacrifice because I could not see paying so much for the 950 when I felt the 900B has very good blacks and less issue than the 950B. I like the blacks on the 950B but the sweat spot is way to small and the blooming and other effects from the sides were far worse than the 900B.

For $8K I would go 78HU9000 or Sony 79B. I don't care about 3D and would sacrifice the black levels of the 79B for the size. With LCD I still think the 900B is by far Sony's overall best TV.

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But Barry, in terms of actual susceptibility to burn-in, we're talking utterly huge differences between LCD and plasma/OLED.
Agree with you Ken, you have to pay more attention with OLED or Plasma. LCD is for the most part bulletproof in this area. I prefer the black levels and accept the risk.
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77" OLED...curved to flat?

You can google up a video that CNET had during CES...better yet, here's the link. They showed the 77" as having a motorized, remote-controlled ability to change the screen from curved to flat.

http://www.cnet.com/news/lg-rolls-ou...xible-oled-tv/

I'm assuming the 77" model coming out soon will not have this ability?
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I assume there is a warm setting so that the screen on the left can match the screen on the right? I will be waiting on some bona fide EC9300 reports before deciding.
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I assume there is a warm setting so that the screen on the left can match the screen on the right? I will be waiting on some bona fide EC9300 reports before deciding.
Yes, I think he mentions that he didn't mess with the oled settings
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Comparing the folds in the clothing of the passenger in the car, the panel on the left is more striking and dimensional.
I would think that that effect by itself is something more related to the panel settings than the display tech.

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So Adam, it's basically fear of IR & burn-in that are causing you to return the OLED? Have you seen actual evidence of either on your particular unit?
He clearly said IR, never mentioned burn in.
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You can google up a video that CNET had during CES...better yet, here's the link. They showed the 77" as having a motorized, remote-controlled ability to change the screen from curved to flat.

http://www.cnet.com/news/lg-rolls-ou...xible-oled-tv/

I'm assuming the 77" model coming out soon will not have this ability?
I was hoping the 77" was going to be the flexible one also, but in the CES footage they have a 77" that is fixed next to the flexible one. So I guess we still have to wait if we want a large format flat OLED. Just hope OLED sticks around long enough to get them flat and cheap.
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Update on my Oled it started to fail on me after 1000hours multiple stuck n dead pixeles. I got with a good fight my money refunded by the dealer. So its gone. Seems 1000 hours was the hour that the problem started.
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Wont get another 2013 Lg Oled as i dont trust em not failing on me again. Ill look into 2014 ones n follow they and aim for a 4k one. Just a heads up on my situation with em. My build was April 2014 and it didnt last.
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Well I think I'm going to keep my 950 and return the oled.
I hope you don't find a severed horse head (or LCD panel) in your bed in the coming days.
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Update on my Oled it started to fail on me after 1000hours multiple stuck n dead pixeles. I got with a good fight my money refunded by the dealer. So its gone. Seems 1000 hours was the hour that the problem started.
How many? Was it visible on content?
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Update on my Oled it started to fail on me after 1000hours multiple stuck n dead pixeles. I got with a good fight my money refunded by the dealer. So its gone. Seems 1000 hours was the hour that the problem started.
Uh oh... You've badmouthed the precious. If you don't have a guard dog, now is probably the time to buy.
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How many? Was it visible on content?
If u looked yes but u needed to be close to see em, more n more apeared so im glad it didnt get calibrated as that been money wasted.
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Uh oh... You've badmouthed the precious. If you don't have a guard dog, now is probably the time to buy.
Just glad i got my money back n the tv gone atm dont trust 2013 ones all have issues n my died more n more.
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It's reports like the above that push us fence sitters over into the LCD camp. In particular a Sammy 55HU9000 or 8700. I realise it has issues of its own. But which current technology would I (or the average consumer) be happier with in the long run? comments?
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Wont get another 2013 Lg Oled as i dont trust em not failing on me again. Ill look into 2014 ones n follow they and aim for a 4k one. Just a heads up on my situation with em. My build was April 2014 and it didnt last.
I could be wrong, but I think you're the only owner that had this happen. But it is concerning to see pixels fail like this over time.
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I could be wrong, but I think you're the only owner that had this happen. But it is concerning to see pixels fail like this over time.
vinny's first panel had this as well, if i remember correctly
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It's reports like the above that push us fence sitters over into the LCD camp. In particular a Sammy 55HU9000 or 8700. I realise it has issues of its own. But which current technology would I (or the average consumer) be happier with in the long run? comments?
Oled looks stunning but its still a fragile tech. Could well gotten a new one but no as it was more n more dying on me i belive a new one would prob do the same. New ones could be improved over "gen 1"
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Lcd with oled backlight might be the best combo on a tv. ultimate dimming system with lcd thats almost bulletproof on its pixels.
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Oled looks stunning but its still a fragile tech. Could well gotten a new one but no as it was more n more dying on me i belive a new one would prob do the same. New ones could be improved over "gen 1"
I don't have $3-4K to blow on field testing a lab project.
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My apologies if someone has already posted this but HD Guru is reporting that the 65 inch 4K OLED will be selling for $7000. It looks like it'll have bullet proof specs (notwithstanding the curved screen) including HDMI 2.0.

I'm stunned. My 65VT60 is already looking obsolete

http://hdguru.com/lgs-ultra-high-def...-price-leaked/

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While testing brightness and black level, we discovered two notable points of interest (which we’re sure Merson will cover in deeper detail within his own review): 1. The EA9800 sample we reviewed arrived with a number of what we’re calling “lazy” sub-pixels. We stopped counting them around 40. 2. Using a 100 IRE brightness window test pattern (stay with us, people!) we discovered that the TV only sustains maximum brightness for about a minute before it begins to slowly dim down over the next four. Sounds pretty bad, doesn’t it? Maybe not.
Lazy sub-pixels, enhanced for visibility. Image taken using a 4 second exposure on a Nikon D8000 with 50mm F/1.8 lens. NOTE: These pixels are invisible to the naked eye and had no effect on the viewing experience during our tests.
The sub-pixel issue is bad news in that it indicates there may be a quality control or production issue at the manufacturing level – that’s not good. [Editor's note: This issue, if indeed caused by TFT drive current deviation as LG maintains, is not limited to OLED technology] But, from a practical standpoint, the sub-pixels are so intensely small that they weren’t visible with the naked eye from further than 1.5 feet. In fact, it took a 4-second exposure on a Nikon D8000 with a 50mm f/1.8 lens to capture the errant pixels. As a result, the image we took exacerbates the problem considerably just so that it can be seen. But in real-life viewing sessions, these lazy pixels were completely undetectable and had zero visible impact on the performance of the television.
This is disconcerting. That many lazy pixels can’t be considered acceptable in a production TV. Granted, this is one of the first runs, but we’re pretty sure the review sample we tested was vetted before being sent to us. Hopefully, the problem that was discovered will be addressed, but until LG has a chance to deal with it, there’s no way to know whether the sets arriving for sale in the US will exhibit the problem. Early adopters should be aware, but also understand it was an invisible issue in real-life viewing.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/tv-revi...eview/#!bq9IW9

not sure if Vak started seeing these, as they might have been there the whole time, just invisible to the naked eye
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Wow! Sux. Always something. Until LG can provide at least a one year warranty on the panel, I'll stay away.
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Wow! Sux. Always something. Until LG can provide at least a one year warranty on the panel, I'll stay away.
They extend it to 3 years for $159 which I would highly recommend with any OLED or 4K set. Things do ho bad and you want to make sure your covered.

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Wont get another 2013 Lg Oled as i dont trust em not failing on me again. Ill look into 2014 ones n follow they and aim for a 4k one. Just a heads up on my situation with em. My build was April 2014 and it didnt last.
I don't think 2014 will change this, there is probably a failure rate with OLED's that we don't know. Frys has a display with 3300 hours and about 12 bad sub-pixels on blue, green and red are perfect and nothing visible with content.

I would pick up a F8500 if I was you, it will be the closest to OLED.
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