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I've taken pics of the 2 darkest slides in d-nices slides
Is that not 10 ire?

And yes, you can clearly see the uniformity issues
I posted those pics in response to your claim that ALL 9800s look like your last one, which they don't



Don't like dis-information spread about the oled
lol, calm down 5x10, this is my last 9800, it was Horrible

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lol, calm down 5x10, this is my last 9800, it was Horrible
Lol, I'm calm
I just don't like people spreading bad info, that's all
You can appreciate that, right?


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This folks is what the 9800 looks like
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The and my are the key vegas
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Uniformity(shade) is consistent in real life
You are kidding me right? I lived with three 9800's I know these grey scales turn into DSE and banding. Yours is one of the better ones of the 9800's I have seen.
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You are kidding me right? I lived with three 9800's I know these grey scales turn into DSE and banding. Yours is one of the better ones of the 9800's I have seen.
No, I'm not kidding
The uniformity issues you see on my pics are consistent to what I see in real life
My camera isn't hiding uniformity issues
No dse, no banding
Like you said, its clear as day

Can you replicate the same 10ire photo of the 9300 that you did of the 9800?
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Lol, I'm calm
I just don't like people spreading bad info, that's all
You can appreciate that, right?




The and my are the key vegas
Yes, you can clearly see yours is much better than my last 9800. I agree with that. That's the price people pay for going to this forum. I would not have know about this issue if a 9800 owner did not keep,posting asking everyone to down load the slides and check uniformity. Yours is about as good as the 9800's get, your lucky.
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No, I'm not kidding
The uniformity issues you see on my pics are consistent to what I see in real life
My camera isn't hiding uniformity issues
No dse, no banding
Like you said, its clear as day

Can you replicate the same 10ire photo of the 9300 that you did of the 9800?
Maybe you need another monitor because on my Ipad screen your grey scale is not clear as day.
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Yes, you can clearly see yours is much better than my last 9800. I agree with that. That's the price people pay for going to this forum. I would not have know about this issue if a 9800 owner did not keep,posting asking everyone to down load the slides and check uniformity. Yours is about as good as the 9800's get, your lucky.
maybe you were just unlucky


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Maybe you need another monitor because on my Ipad screen your grey scale is not clear as day.
No Vegas, its clear as day I have uniformity issues
I reworded your statement, but it means the same thing
But then you again, disinform, by saying there are dse and banding issues
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No, I'm not kidding
The uniformity issues you see on my pics are consistent to what I see in real life
My camera isn't hiding uniformity issues
No dse, no banding
Like you said, its clear as day

Can you replicate the same 10ire photo of the 9300 that you did of the 9800?
I could never make my 9300 look as bad as a 9800 in the grey scale, the are much better than the 9800.
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I could never make my 9300 look as bad as a 9800 in the grey scale, the are much better than the 9800.
so you can't replicate a 10ire photo in the dark?
Got it
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so you can't replicate a 10ire photo in the dark?
Got it
Yes I can, I replicated your photo and exposed the 9800's grey scale. The 9300 is Darn near perfect and no bad sub-pixels
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Yes I can, I replicated your photo and exposed the 9800's grey scale. The 9300 is Darn near perfect and no bad sub-pixels
No, your photo is in the light and cant appear to handle the brightness like your 9800 picture did

its apparent your anti 9800 at this point
The 9300 at the showdown had dead subs, the issue isn't gone
I'm sure you'll take that as me attacking the 9300, instead of dealing with reality
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No, your photo is in the light and cant appear to handle the brightness like your 9800 picture did

its apparent your anti 9800 at this point
I am going too enjoy my 9300 now. I do not want too upset 9800 owners, but I will post some more photos soon.
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I am going too enjoy my 9300 now. I do not want too upset 9800 owners, but I will post some more photos soon.
Lol, go enjoy it Vegas..............for now
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All has a honeymoon period when getting a new tv overlooking its faults
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How did it handle the bright white on black FPR nightmare scenario? Any excessive crosstalk? (fingers crossed)
Not sure when I would have noticed exactly that. I did notice that objects moving quickly across the black background could be jerky in motion, like the frame rate was too low. Maybe me noticing that was a product of crosstalk? But it could be so many other things, motion resolution, shutter speed, or simply the fact that 24 fps is simply not a sufficient frame rate to represent such fast motion.
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Had another good OLED moment last night. Was playing Diablo on PS4 in the middle of the night with the screen brightness dialed all the way down to 3/100 OLED light and 8/100 contrast. The screen was emitting less bright light than an iPhone or iPad set to its minimum "read in bed" mode.

So relaxing for the eyes! And a perfect way to lull yourself to sleep. Meanwhile contrast and colors still look really good. With LCDs, you can't really enjoy the screen the same way at so low settings (if it even goes so low) because color accuracy and contrast go out the window.

It made the dark environments of the sewers and swamps of Act2 feel even more immersive. I really felt I was experiencing the game in a new way, and I have been through these same areas so many times on a PC Dell monitor and a Macbook Retina monitor.
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Hope u take breaks with the static huds on diablo 3
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Hope u take breaks with the static huds on diablo 3
Haven't been that careful about that. Theplague said he could play his MMO all day with all its static elements without any problems. I have yet to see any retention any way so I'm not gonna worry about it :P
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Haven't been that careful about that. Theplague said he could play his MMO all day with all its static elements without any problems. I have yet to see any retention any way so I'm not gonna worry about it :P
Hope it turns out fine i would take a few breaks running a scrolling bar but thats just info i got from a vt owner who gets ir a few times
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3 best buys and 2 Hhgregg. All said the display is not theirs to sell at the moment. They all had the PC rated logo either burned in or IR. I honestly think it is IR since the logo appears about once every 30 seconds for about 5 seconds. I do not think that would cause burn in.
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3 best buys and 2 Hhgregg. All said the display is not theirs to sell at the moment. They all had the PC rated logo either burned in or IR. I honestly think it is IR since the logo appears about once every 30 seconds for about 5 seconds. I do not think that would cause burn in.
That's honestly somewhat concerning, although it sounds like the tv has only played the same 30 second loop it's entire life
Not something an owner would do
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That's honestly somewhat concerning, although it sounds like the tv has only played the same 30 second loop it's entire life
Not something an owner would do
I honestly think it is just IR. You could only see it on a red background, not even white showed it. I actually hope it is just IR b.c I'm gonna say it is burn in and see how low on price they will go when the time comes.
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maybe you were just unlucky
No Vegas, its clear as day I have uniformity issues
I reworded your statement, but it means the same thing
But then you again, disinform, by saying there are dse and banding issues
The 9800 is no slouch ! So as of this moment, it is the 2nd best TV ever made, and for the price you paid 5X10, you stole it, you paid 40%-45% less than he did.
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I honestly think it is just IR. You could only see it on a red background, not even white showed it. I actually hope it is just IR b.c I'm gonna say it is burn in and see how low on price they will go when the time comes.
Good luck, I'm sure you could probably age the logo out of the panel with some other content
If you put some math to it, that logo was on the screen aprox 15-20% of the time, so when I look at it like that, it's not as concerning

Good luck with the $$$ negotiation


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The 9800 is no slouch ! So as of this moment, it is the 2nd best TV ever made, and for the price you paid 5X10, you stole it, you paid 40%-45% less than he did.
Yes sir!
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OK. Back for my first impressions.
I did not run slides to check for uniformity or burnt pixels after buying it. If I can't see it, I don't need to know.
The IR is getting lighter after 2 hours of pixel flipping with the WOW disk. Barely noticeable with content now. Did a simple calibration for my room at normal lighting, using THX mode for dimmed viewing.
This is my opinion and definitely not an expert.

Picture - Wow! Ran the demo material and just blown away. The depth and detail was just astounding. Blacks were truly black and the contrast makes everything look so real. Even watching the news was different.
Compared to the 4K demos they have at BB, the impact was better and honestly, I could not see much more details on the 4K.
Popped in Despicable Me and my jaw dropped.
Watched some NFL football and was amazed how the Steelers uniform was really black, lol. And the details like small creases and folds in the shadow actually are visible now.
Viewing angles were very good. Up to 45 degrees without much change in color or brightness.

Sound - The clear speakers were adequate for news and documentaries but lacked deep end thump. Went back to my AV setup but the clear stand made it difficult to run the center speaker. Found some flat wires and ran it under the 1 pc stand. Why didn't they leave leave a small gap or hole ?

So without going into details like gammas and gamuts, this TV simply rocks. Worried about longevity ? Buy an extended warranty. My TV now has over 4K hours and it's the best PQ I've ever seen. If you can afford it (or a good negotiator ), this is the set for you.

Like I promised, I will be tuning out of this site because I don't need to know what's wrong with my set without noticing it myself. Maybe my eyes or senses aren't as refined as some people here but I don't want to obsess about issues or problems that I can't see or hear. Instead of being nit-picky, I want to enjoy this new toy. I will be checking in periodically and will post if I run into any issues.

Happy viewing !!
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OK. Back for my first impressions.
I did not run slides to check for uniformity or burnt pixels after buying it. If I can't see it, I don't need to know.
The IR is getting lighter after 2 hours of pixel flipping with the WOW disk. Barely noticeable with content now. Did a simple calibration for my room at normal lighting, using THX mode for dimmed viewing.
This is my opinion and definitely not an expert.

Picture - Wow! Ran the demo material and just blown away. The depth and detail was just astounding. Blacks were truly black and the contrast makes everything look so real. Even watching the news was different.
Compared to the 4K demos they have at BB, the impact was better and honestly, I could not see much more details on the 4K.
Popped in Despicable Me and my jaw dropped.
Watched some NFL football and was amazed how the Steelers uniform was really black, lol. And the details like small creases and folds in the shadow actually are visible now.
Viewing angles were very good. Up to 45 degrees without much change in color or brightness.

Sound - The clear speakers were adequate for news and documentaries but lacked deep end thump. Went back to my AV setup but the clear stand made it difficult to run the center speaker. Found some flat wires and ran it under the 1 pc stand. Why didn't they leave leave a small gap or hole ?

So without going into details like gammas and gamuts, this TV simply rocks. Worried about longevity ? Buy an extended warranty. My TV now has over 4K hours and it's the best PQ I've ever seen. If you can afford it (or a good negotiator ), this is the set for you.

Like I promised, I will be tuning out of this site because I don't need to know what's wrong with my set without noticing it myself. Maybe my eyes or senses aren't as refined as some people here but I don't want to obsess about issues or problems that I can't see or hear. Instead of being nit-picky, I want to enjoy this new toy. I will be checking in periodically and will post if I run into any issues.

Happy viewing !!
You are like me. I won't run slides. Good to hear about the IR fading and that is what it really is. Did you have the "PC rated" IR? Also you mentioned demo material. Is this stuff you downloaded or is baked into the set?
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Had another good OLED moment last night. Was playing Diablo on PS4 in the middle of the night with the screen brightness dialed all the way down to 3/100 OLED light and 8/100 contrast. The screen was emitting less bright light than an iPhone or iPad set to its minimum "read in bed" mode.

So relaxing for the eyes! And a perfect way to lull yourself to sleep. Meanwhile contrast and colors still look really good. With LCDs, you can't really enjoy the screen the same way at so low settings (if it even goes so low) because color accuracy and contrast go out the window.

It made the dark environments of the sewers and swamps of Act2 feel even more immersive. I really felt I was experiencing the game in a new way, and I have been through these same areas so many times on a PC Dell monitor and a Macbook Retina monitor.
Cool post. This is what I want from a display - the flexibility for bright daylight viewing and also dim nighttime viewing, while retaining reasonable colour/contrast accuracy.

Is there a quick way to change the OLED light and contrast, i.e. programmable presets that you can access with a button on the remote?

This set doesn't have an ambient light sensor, does it?
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Has anyone watched The Amazing Spiderman 2 blu-ray yet on the 9800 yet? The black bars are grayish. I popped in the DVD and the bars are black?!? What's up with that?
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