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andy sullivan's Avatar andy sullivan 05:34 PM 11-11-2013
Yes they are. They will be manufacturing LED?LCD's up to 55". Very limited market to begin with but just having their name bandied around again is sweet music. I see a Pioneer OLED by 2018. Why not? They certainly have a name perceived as high quality to tout.

ozark's Avatar ozark 07:59 PM 11-11-2013
What re badge some cheap panels with the Pioneer name?
8mile13's Avatar 8mile13 05:40 AM 11-12-2013
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''While the Sharp-Pioneer partnership (Sharp Elite Pro xxX5FD) at least involved some collaboration between engineers from both companies, the current one between Dixon Retail and Pioneer is nothing of that sort. Reading between the lines, what's going to happen is that the LED TVs are going to be sourced and assembled at a low cost in the Far East, with the only difference being they'll carry the famous 'Pioneer' bagde as a marketing ploy.''
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/pioneer-led-201311113435.htm
sa's Avatar sa 06:12 AM 11-12-2013
Bad move by Pioneer, soiling their name.
mattg3's Avatar mattg3 06:46 PM 11-12-2013
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Bad move by Pioneer, soiling their name.
Definitely. As an early Pioneer Plasma owner whose 433cmx still provides a wonderful picture quality this idea is criminal.Leave the legend to rest in peace.
andy sullivan's Avatar andy sullivan 10:04 PM 11-12-2013
They aren't trying to bring back or recreate a legend. They're just trying to get back in the game. Give em a chance why don't you. Baby steps. Start with something you can make a profit at then step up to next level. It's not like Pioneer doesn't employ a few engineers that know a little about electronics. They make great AVR's and blu-ray players. They can put together OLED displays as well as anybody else can. They don't need to develop them, just build them.
Chronoptimist's Avatar Chronoptimist 10:05 PM 11-12-2013
Did everyone forget that Pioneer already sold LCDs under their Kuro brand? http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/newsroom/news/news/kuroLCD/page.html
It's funny reading that now though, as it's five years old and apparently they don't put dates on their press releases.
mattg3's Avatar mattg3 04:52 AM 11-13-2013
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They aren't trying to bring back or recreate a legend. They're just trying to get back in the game. Give em a chance why don't you. Baby steps. Start with something you can make a profit at then step up to next level. It's not like Pioneer doesn't employ a few engineers that know a little about electronics. They make great AVR's and blu-ray players. They can put together OLED displays as well as anybody else can. They don't need to develop them, just build them.[/quote
Nothing would excite me more than a true Pioneer Oled

tgm1024's Avatar tgm1024 06:52 AM 11-18-2013
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They aren't trying to bring back or recreate a legend. They're just trying to get back in the game. Give em a chance why don't you. Baby steps. Start with something you can make a profit at then step up to next level. It's not like Pioneer doesn't employ a few engineers that know a little about electronics. They make great AVR's and blu-ray players. They can put together OLED displays as well as anybody else can. They don't need to develop them, just build them.
 
Nothing would excite me more than a true Pioneer Oled

 

Even if it were crap?  Wait and see what they make.


vinnie97's Avatar vinnie97 12:05 PM 11-18-2013
Pioneer manufacturing crap is a notion that is foreign to my being. wink.gif
mattg3's Avatar mattg3 06:25 PM 11-18-2013
So true and lets hope it stays that way
Cleveland Plasma's Avatar Cleveland Plasma 07:12 PM 11-18-2013
The # 1 share holder of Pioneer stock is.......................Sharp.

Sharp own Pioneer.
Pioneer Insider's Avatar Pioneer Insider 08:07 PM 11-18-2013

It's true that Sharp is the largest single stockholder holding slightly less than 9% of the outstanding stock.  But they do not own Pioneer and do not have any control over the other 91+ percent of the stock or Sharp's decisions in any way.

 

Sharp is the #1 TV seller in Japan and Sharp's position varies between #3 and #4 market share in the USA.


Cleveland Plasma's Avatar Cleveland Plasma 10:42 PM 11-18-2013
Being the #1 share holder means you call the shots, does it not ?
HogPilot's Avatar HogPilot 04:14 AM 11-19-2013
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Being the #1 share holder means you call the shots, does it not ?

Not unless you own a majority of the company. You can still be the largest single stock holder and own less than 50% of the company.
greenland's Avatar greenland 06:22 AM 11-19-2013
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/television/tv/pioneer-s-return-to-tv-what-it-means-and-why-you-should-care-1199109

"Small wonder then that Dixon's announcement that it was exclusively licensing the marque for its own use caused a tsunami of interest. But hopes that a Pioneer return will see the TV universe cosmically rebalance itself after Panasonic's plasma capitulation are likely to prove unfounded.
The owner of Currys and PC World is handling all product development and component procurement, much as it's done previously with Prinztronic, Logik and Saisho. "Dixons Retail has been granted the exclusive rights to source, develop, produce and sell Pioneer TVs in selected European markets," read the release that heralded the news.


The Chinese connection

What few people realize is that Pioneer has been quietly running a similar operation in China for more than three years. Pioneer TVs have been produced under license there, using locally sourced panels. Will the same Chinese pixel power the new European models? That's yet to be seen."
67jason's Avatar 67jason 07:23 PM 11-19-2013
so in other words pioneer is the new rca.mad.gif
olyteddy's Avatar olyteddy 07:41 PM 11-19-2013
I wonder if they'll be selling them at Circuit City Tiger Direct CompUSA...Never mind...tongue.gif
tgm1024's Avatar tgm1024 09:19 AM 11-20-2013
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I wonder if they'll be selling them at Circuit City Tiger Direct CompUSA...Never mind...tongue.gif

 

Or Computer City (if you had that out your way.)  The land of the bargain 20 cd collection of "great programs" of complete crap.


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