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You can watch 4K demo channel on satellite in Europe on some 4K TVs with build in satellite tuner. The link is from september 2013. By now more 4K TVs are able to show 4K satellite demo channels in Europe.

http://recombu.com/digital/news/samsung-smart-tvs-get-4k-ultra-hd-satellite-channel_M12149.html
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Soooooo many ardent naysayers here.......and yet 4K marches [quickly] on.

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Thought #AUO: The IOC seems to have made the same obnoxious mistake that FIFA did. They honestly believe that they are more powerful than governments. Oh are they ever going to regret that soon.
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Soooooo many ardent naysayers here.......and yet 4K marches [quickly] on.

Let's not get too excited yet. Japan has always been 10-15 years ahead of the west on TV tech. HD was ancient tech to them by the time it arrived in the U.S.
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Soooooo many ardent naysayers here.......and yet 4K marches [quickly] on.

Let's not get too excited yet. Japan has always been 10-15 years ahead of the west on TV tech. HD was ancient tech to them by the time it arrived in the U.S.

 

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Thought #AUO: The IOC seems to have made the same obnoxious mistake that FIFA did. They honestly believe that they are more powerful than governments. Oh are they ever going to regret that soon.
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Having a 4K channel isn't related to any troubles the Japanese manufacturers are having. Unless I misunderstood your comment....

Thought #AUO: The IOC seems to have made the same obnoxious mistake that FIFA did. They honestly believe that they are more powerful than governments. Oh are they ever going to regret that soon.
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Soooooo many ardent naysayers here.......and yet 4K marches [quickly] on.

But i think we'll see flying cars before we ever see cable providers or satellite providers or OTA broadcasters offering 4K content. wink.gif

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But i think we'll see flying cars before we ever see cable providers or satellite providers or OTA broadcasters offering 4K content. wink.gif

I would guess we will have 4K PPV, 4K ESPN and 4KHBO channels within the next 2 years.

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I think not. As I recall, ESPN has already indicated a tepid interest in 4K.

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I would guess we will have 4K PPV, 4K ESPN and 4KHBO channels within the next 2 years.

I would guess something in between.
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If/when 4k broadcast or streaming does show up in the US, it will be in criminally low bitrate and not look much better than BD, if that.
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TV Broadcasting aside, I think what will drive 4k as the new standard is shooting movies in 4k. I enjoyed watching some 4k videos shot by Ken Ross and the results were superb . Surely the movie industry will be quick to adapt the new standard as many theatres have 4k Sony projectors - or am I wrong?
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Soooooo many ardent naysayers here.......and yet 4K marches [quickly] on.

Something that only an LCD can do, and you expect it is going to catch on. I don't know of any home projectors which can do it, and I don't know if many broadcasters are willing to sidestep true 1080p first.

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I just learned very expensive 5 grand home projectors can do 4K.

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4K is the next SACD.

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But i think we'll see flying cars before we ever see cable providers or satellite providers or OTA broadcasters offering 4K content. wink.gif

I still have "slow" DSL. I keep getting email from AT&T wanting me sign up for their U-verse video, but there is no fiber anywhere near me. The last rep I spoke with said AT&T will have fiber in all their areas by the year 2020. I can't believe how far behind we are compared to other countries.
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I think not. As I recall, ESPN has already indicated a tepid interest in 4K.

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/68238/pagano-espn-plans-to-be-the-4k-leader

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That article is a year old so things may have changed since then.

Although I generally agree with you. 4K is going to be the future. There's really nothing holding it back technologically. When has the entertainment industry not implemented something because it will force people to spend money?
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I still have "slow" DSL. I keep getting email from AT&T wanting me sign up for their U-verse video, but there is no fiber anywhere near me. The last rep I spoke with said AT&T will have fiber in all their areas by the year 2020. I can't believe how far behind we are compared to other countries.

Nothing holding it back, heh?

I have maximum 6 Mbps DSL which never achieves that actual number downstream....with no signs of that changing anytime soon.

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Nothing holding it back, heh?

I have maximum 6 Mbps DSL which never achieves that actual number downstream....with no signs of that changing anytime soon.

Hate to break it to you, but the world is not going to wait until you have the capability to stream 4K video.
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Hate to break it to you, but the world is not going to wait until you have the capability to stream 4K video.

Hate to break it to you but...4K is the new SACD.

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Hate to break it to you but...4K is the new SACD.

Sorry, that spot is already taken. 3D is the new SACD.

4K is just getting started. Already there is the upcoming 4K P series Vizio with FALD for a $1000 and, on the production side, the recently released Panny GH4 camera that films in 4K for less than $2000 . Make and watch your own 4K for $3000.

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EscapeVelocity's analogy is a better logical fit (even if it may be a little too soon to call it).
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Hate to break it to you but...4K is the new SACD.

Sorry, that spot is already taken. 3D is the new SACD.

 

More parroting and then amplified nonsense about 3D.  Does this ever end?  Seriously, compare the number of people in the last couple years who have seen a 3D movie in the theaters or bought a 3D movie for home viewing to the number of folks buying a super audio CD.

 

There's a certain tone of "haha" built into this jumping on the bandwagon to condemn 3D that has gotten way out of control.


Thought #AUO: The IOC seems to have made the same obnoxious mistake that FIFA did. They honestly believe that they are more powerful than governments. Oh are they ever going to regret that soon.
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Hate to break it to you but...4K is the new SACD.

Sorry, that spot is already taken. 3D is the new SACD.

 

More parroting and then amplified nonsense about 3D.  Does this ever end?  Seriously, compare the number of people in the last couple years who have seen a 3D movie in the theaters or bought a 3D movie for home viewing to the number of folks buying a super audio CD.

 

There's a certain tone of "haha" built into this jumping on the bandwagon to condemn 3D that has gotten way out of control.


3D Plasma TVs seem less reliable; perhaps you like that.

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Hate to break it to you but...4K is the new SACD.

Sorry, that spot is already taken. 3D is the new SACD.

 

More parroting and then amplified nonsense about 3D.  Does this ever end?  Seriously, compare the number of people in the last couple years who have seen a 3D movie in the theaters or bought a 3D movie for home viewing to the number of folks buying a super audio CD.

 

There's a certain tone of "haha" built into this jumping on the bandwagon to condemn 3D that has gotten way out of control.


3D Plasma TVs seem less reliable; perhaps you like that.

 

I'm not a fan of active 3D, which stands as no indictment of 3D at all.  And especially plasma which already has trouble producing enough brightness.  I'm a HUGE fan of passive.


Thought #AUO: The IOC seems to have made the same obnoxious mistake that FIFA did. They honestly believe that they are more powerful than governments. Oh are they ever going to regret that soon.
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Hate to break it to you but...4K is the new SACD.

Sorry, that spot is already taken. 3D is the new SACD.

 

More parroting and then amplified nonsense about 3D.  Does this ever end?  Seriously, compare the number of people in the last couple years who have seen a 3D movie in the theaters or bought a 3D movie for home viewing to the number of folks buying a super audio CD.

 

There's a certain tone of "haha" built into this jumping on the bandwagon to condemn 3D that has gotten way out of control.


3D Plasma TVs seem less reliable; perhaps you like that.

 

I'm not a fan of active 3D, which stands as no indictment of 3D at all.  And especially plasma which already has trouble producing enough brightness.  I'm a HUGE fan of passive.

It is still hard on the stomach.

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I'm not a fan of active 3D, which stands as no indictment of 3D at all.  And especially plasma which already has trouble producing enough brightness.  I'm a HUGE fan of passive.

It is still hard on the stomach.

 

How much passive 3D have you watched?  It's mild on everyone in my immediate and extended family.  I've had absolutely no one say anything about it giving them a headache, or making them queasy, etc.  I'm going to have my sister-in-law over who threw up in the bathroom outside the theater from Avatar (more a girl thing apparently).  I'm curious as to her reaction.


Thought #AUO: The IOC seems to have made the same obnoxious mistake that FIFA did. They honestly believe that they are more powerful than governments. Oh are they ever going to regret that soon.
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Sorry, that spot is already taken. 3D is the new SACD.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1534699/two-months-with-an-ultra-d-tv

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