Originally Posted by 5x10
Taken from another board, member by the name of Patrick that calibrated his
I question the info reported above, brightness #s
seem really out of whack
Originally Posted by tgm1024
^^^Bah, that's a 2.39 average. We don't need no stink'n 2.39....
The TVs at the shootout were all calibrated to put out as close to the same 40 fL as possible. Obviously some of the TVs can put out more light than that.
The LG's extremely aggressive ABL reduced the brightness to a point where it was the dimmest display at the shootout when displaying a 50% APL ANSI chart or 100% white field patterns. Other reviewers likely calibrated to different peak brightness and/or used different sized measurement patterns.
We're also comparing what used to be a $15K set to one that launched at $3.5K. Maybe the 9300 is worse in some areas.
Some good info about this set in the shootout thread. In case anyone missed it:
Originally Posted by Ken Ross
So having returned from the shootout, a few observations on the LG OLED:
* I arrived early and was chatting with D-Nice in front of the LG. I wondered why the LG, which had no input signal, was not black, but rather a dark gray. D-Nice indicated he's seen this sporadically with both the 2013 & the 2014 models. It's not typically there, but does occasionally show up as I saw. He wasn't sure if this behavior was a form of overheating after showing high APL material or just a software glitch. He pointed it out to LG.
* When showing the Power Point slides, the ABL kicked in big time! I asked the question of the LG rep, why is the ABL so aggressive? Is it to minimize the IR since it's unlikely a power supply issue? The LG rep said it was to extend the lifespan of the set and yes, to minimize IR. Although the ABL was worse than I've seen with most plasmas with very high APL scenes (really!), I didn't see it during actual video content.
* There are apparently some color decoding or gamma issues, resulting in cyan not being displayed properly. Well, I'm used to that with my Sharp Elite. The error was very obvious with a scene of a car whose color was obviously off relative to the other displays.
So with all these issues, I obviously was turned off to the LG, right? WRONG! The LG clearly blew away, IMO, every other display there. I've seen the 2013 LG many times, but never in a dark setting. The 2014 was just gorgeous, warts and all!
I'm anxious to see the 4K OLEDs, especially after seeing the HD version.
Originally Posted by Ken Ross
I brought up the ABL issue several times, both in private and as a question directed at the calibrators & LG. I'm not shy about ABL as anyone that's read my posts over the years knows. I hate it. I know some will argue that you only see it with commercials when the screen's APL is high. That may or may not be the case depending on the display. I know it was a factor for me in deciding to go with the F8500 and its less aggressive ABL relative to the ZT/VT60. With those displays I could clearly see the ABL kicking in on the Panasonics with some normal outdoor content.
With the content that was played last night, I saw no evidence of the ABL kicking in except with the Power Point slides. With that said, I'd like to see some outdoor scenes with expanses of snow or something like a hockey game.
As for uniformity issues, I did see some with the LG OLED on a couple of slides, but I never saw it with actual content. Might it be there with certain content? Possibly.
Motion issues and BFI were brought up, but I don't recall the answers other than Dr. Weber discussing the brain/eye relationship in our perception of it. It was my impression that Dr. Weber thought the motion issue was a bit overplayed, but it could be that he was less sensitive to the issue than some. I suspect I may be too.
But with that said, and looking at all the contenders last night, the 77" 4K OLED is my top contender. So much of what I saw on the 55" LG was just stunning and I didn't see anything else that was in the same league as the OLEDs. Let's see what happens to the pricing.
Originally Posted by D-Nice
the LG at the shoutout had uniformity issues. A 4x3 center section of the curved screen was green compared to red sides. This will be very apparent in B&W content.