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I have the EA8800 and also the Samsung 51 inch version of the F8500 the picture is cleaner on the OLED in all viewing conditions but the 8500 is a great set just not comparable in my opinion to the OLED.
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The power consumption numbers are different enough that it is very unlikely that it is the same panel.
According to the spec sheet linked above:

"LG’s ULTRA HD 4K TV’s with 10-bit color depth display over 1 billion colors"

I think people are confusing the improvements made on the new 4K panels with the old 1080p models. The same is probably true of the 240Hz modes or increases in brightness.

I'm very skeptical they've made any changes to the 1080p panel. I think it's just a cost-reduced version of the 9800 (minus transparent speakers, etc.) and updated for webos. I mean why bother when going forward they will probably need to sell 4K exclusively to compete with cheap 4K LCD. The 1080p models will likely be phased out.

The energy star power rating difference could mean anything. Changes to firmware, ABL behavior, different CPU, different power supply, power saving modes, etc. It's inconclusive to me.

240Hz if true, also does not imply BFI in any way. It could just mean more frames of interpolation. In any case, there is no mention of improved motion in any official specs I've seen. In fact, they removed claims of 0.01ms superior clear motion like they had on the older 9800 features page - likely because real-world differences to LCD were non existent in professional reviews.
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It's interesting to me that Amazon's preorder price is $5K while BestBuy's is $3500.
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According to the spec sheet linked above:

"LG’s ULTRA HD 4K TV’s with 10-bit color depth display over 1 billion colors"

I think people are confusing the improvements made on the new 4K panels with the old 1080p models.
Yeah but its the spec sheet for the EC9300 LG OLED. Tough its strange LG mentions 4K in the spec sheet.
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^Not strange, just incompetent on the part of those maintaining the website.
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The energy star power rating difference could mean anything. Changes to firmware, ABL behavior, different CPU, different power supply, power saving modes, etc. It's inconclusive to me.
I dont see the power consumption numbers as definitive, but I think it points to a new backplane/materials. From your list, a change in the ABL is the only way I can see the max power consumption increasing substantially. That's possible though would seem odd considering the concerns about image retention and burn-in.
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I remember reading the 10 bit panel on the LG site prior to them removing it, not sure about 240Hz I believe it's 120Hz. Seems low priced for so many upgrades
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Under Features on BB site

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4 Color Pixel technology and a 10-bit color depth display more than 1 billion colors, ensuring images are reproduced clearly and accurately.
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Seen another site saying its 200hz
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Seen another site saying its 200hz
European models go in multiples of 50Hz and of course their "24Hz" is "25Hz".

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With the demos in place, the first units should be available to take home very soon
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Who will be the 1st? Looking fwd to the first post. I might sign on to the BB deal this week .
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Yep, they said this month...........that's them.......Best Buy gets everything first usually.

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Who will be the 1st? Looking fwd to the first post. I might sign on to the BB deal this week .
Meaning you'll trade in your 55EA9800 or be the proud owner of both a Gen-1 and Gen-2 LG WOLED?
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Meaning you'll trade in your 55EA9800 or be the proud owner of both a Gen-1 and Gen-2 LG WOLED?
Only one. If nothing else it will have the new menu setup. I do not need a wall mount but nice to have the option. Just seems smart to go with the newer set and take afvantage of the great price. I will be very curious to see the upgrades if any. I can't let my Buddy have the newer set and not me, He supposed to get his on the 21st .

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Who will be the 1st? Looking fwd to the first post. I might sign on to the BB deal this week .
skip the 55 and go for the 65
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Cant wait for the 65 inch and 77inch I am just not sure which I am going to purchase. But now that I am OLED crazy thats all I will ever purchase again.
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skip the 55 and go for the 65

That's still $3k plus. If they were both out I might.
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Good looking tv. Like the new stand much better than the see trough one.
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Yep, they said this month...........that's them.......Best Buy gets everything first usually.
Watching the Seahawks win another Superbowl on OLED
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That's still $3k plus. If they were both out I might.
always easier to spend someones elses $$$$
besides, you have the 55 already

out of town all week on a family vacation, i find myself looking down/comparing the father in laws 720p samsung plasma, ive become a tv snob, oled made me do it
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always easier to spend someones elses $$$$
besides, you have the 55 already

out of town all week on a family vacation, i find myself looking down/comparing the father in laws 720p samsung plasma, ive become a tv snob, oled made me do it
Funny, it's easy to be an OLED snob. If not for OLED I would have been Very happy with the 900B. I want the 65 but no patience to Wait and would prefer not to spend the money. If they were both in stock today I would probably walk out with the 65 4K.
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I am going with the new model OLED. 130 hours and a blue and red failed sub-pixel that were not there day one. I hope this issue is addressed on the new panels, it is the one thing that is concerning. I have even considered picking up a Samsung OLED to avoid this issue But I am afraid Samsung might know something about their half life that caused them to pull the plug.

I am ok with a few dead sub-pixels from new but dying pixels should not be.

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I am going with the new model OLED. 130 hours and a blue and red failed sub-pixel that were not there day one. I hope this issue is addressed on the new panels, it is the one thing that is concerning. I have even considered picking up a Samsung OLED to avoid this issue But I am afraid Samsung might know something about their half life that caused them to pull the plug.

I am ok with a few dead sub-pixels from new but dying pixels should not be.

Wow - and you've been LG WOLEDs biggest champion. I hope for your sake (and all the rest of us as well :-) that LG has addressed this subpixel lifetime / premature failure issue on the Gen-2 products...
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I am going with the new model OLED. 130 hours and a blue and red failed sub-pixel that were not there day one. I hope this issue is addressed on the new panels, it is the one thing that is concerning. I have even considered picking up a Samsung OLED to avoid this issue But I am afraid Samsung might know something about their half life that caused them to pull the plug.

I am ok with a few dead sub-pixels from new but dying pixels should not be.
last i heard, LG requires 8 dead subs for a replacement
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Wow - and you've been LG WOLEDs biggest champion. I hope for your sake (and all the rest of us as well :-) that LG has addressed this subpixel lifetime / premature failure issue on the Gen-2 products...
A few bad sub-pixels when new, no big deal but if we have to worry about continued dying pixels over time this could be an issue. You cannot see a couple from 2 feet way but you more than likely can start seeing a cluster of 20 or 30 If they start dying in the same area.

This is scary and should be what we are most concerned with and watching. Every owner should be monitoring this issue with slides.
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last i heard, LG requires 8 dead subs for a replacement
good luck vak, i mean vegas
Your so funny, I am still within my 30 days. I still love my OLED but all of us should worry about this. This is not an attack on LG, it is an issue they should be aware of and sharing data without knocking OLED.

My guess is second gen solves this, Samsung does not have it.
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been waiting patiently for OLED to get to this price point, very interested to see how the whole pixel issues pan out for Gen 1 and the new Gen 2.


It's so hard to keep waiting to pull the trigger though as these prices keep dropping on Gen 1, just missed the 2k 9800 MC deal because no local stores near me.
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