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Specs on the 55EC9300 (seems the 240Hz refresh rate is confirmed)
Confirmed by who? They just link back to the cryptic Amazon listing that's been there for months. Nothing from a credible source backs up anything they've said in that blog regarding brightness or refresh of the 1080p model.
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Do the critic ever take a break? It is a commercial, showing the ticker at the bottom not a calibrated. Do people really judge calibration on commercial?
Ha! j/k! looks fine. Looking forward to the new model.
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Ha! j/k! looks fine. Looking forward to the new model.
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Someone Requested a photo of the Sports Center Ticker, you can see no real distortion.

Well, to be honest, in the old days when linearity was actually measured, yours would not have done that well. It's pretty obvious there is a concave look to it, not unlike what we used to see on some CRTs.

It's not a deal-breaker for me, but if this was a flat screen, there would be perfect linearity.
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Well, to be honest, in the old days when linearity was actually measured, yours would not have done that well. It's pretty obvious there is a concave look to it not unlike we used to see on some CRTs.

It's not a deal-breaker for me, but if this was a flat screen, there would be perfect linearity.
For some it is a deal breaker and that's ok. Just showing what it appears like so people don't have a surprise. If I had different living room I might also prefer flat it just happens to work for me. I can tell you one thing the more immersive is 100% not true, it just is not bad.
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The 55EC9300 and 65EC9700 will be changing LED pricing from now on
Chris, curious: how far down do you expect the X950B to tumble?

Are you expecting it to be severe?
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Going into Best Buys today to pre-book my 55EC9300, very excited. Now that we know Best Buys has a one month exclusive there is no reason to wait.
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Are you sure about that ? Sure there is a reason to wait, at least $500 + tax......... Maybe if this unit was 4K, buts it is just a 1080P OLED 2nd generation which I bet, an expert can not even see a difference between a EC9300 and an EA9800. How much better can anything be over a EA9800 ?

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Chris, curious: how far down do you expect the X950B to tumble?
Are you expecting it to be severe?
I know if the XBR-65X950B was $1500 less then the 65EC9700, I would still buy the OLED.

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So my current ranking of TVs I am waiting for goes as follows:
The 55EC9300 and 65EC9700 will be changing LED pricing from now on
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Are you sure about that ? Sure there is a reason to wait, at least $500 + tax......... Maybe if this unit was 4K, buts it is just a 1080P OLED 2nd generation which I bet, an expert can not even see a difference between a EC9300 and an EA9800. How much better can anything be over a EA9800 ?
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are you going to be selling the 55EC9300 as well as the 55EA9800? And if so, will you be subject to same 1-month Best Buy exclusivity window on the launch of the 55EC9300 as the B&M vendors (so no shipments to end-customers before late September)???
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This is an example of FALD versus OLED. My friend brought over a FALD set which in its own right is very good but up against OLED it is not much of a contest. I will not state the FALD set as there is enough negative around here and I do not want to make people who might own this set upset.
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I looked at Goldstar's brochure and the spec for the thickness is 3". I also looked at a side view and the 'curve' is almost non existent, at least from what I could tell (photo is very poor). This spec of 3", is this measured from a straight line across from the front of each vertical edge to the back of the center surface (the extremes of the panel)?

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Was there any attempt to 'equalize' both sets (or at least the LCD panel) to bring both closer to equal light output?

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Chris,

are you going to be selling the 55EC9300 as well as the 55EA9800? And if so, will you be subject to same 1-month Best Buy exclusivity window on the launch of the 55EC9300 as the B&M vendors (so no shipments to end-customers before late September)???
I have one 55EA9800 left, that's it, then have to wait on the 55EC9300, I know nothing about exclusivity at BB . 55EA8800 are still in full force.
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Was there any attempt to 'equalize' both sets (or at least the LCD panel) to bring both closer to equal light output?

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Yes, it did nothing to improve shadow detail on the FALD. I will say this FALD did very good with black levels when straight on. The big difference was overall contrast which give the OLED depth that's my $99 camera cannot duplicate. I am sure there are FALD sets that might do better but this is just an example why OLED's and plasmas always win shootouts! pixel lighting is just superior too FALD.

This FALD has some of the best blacks I have ever seen on an LCD, I was actually shocked at how good they were. In night scenes of course the OLED showed it is superior, the contrast made the biggest difference.

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This is an example of FALD versus OLED. My friend brought over a FALD set which in its own right is very good but up against OLED it is not much of a contest. I will not state the FALD set as there is enough negative around here and I do not want to make people who might own this set upset.
Your friend can make some adjustments to get the purple out if Pierce Brosnan's shirt. But yeah it's obvious, in this photo anyway, the superior picture is on top. We really need to look at two properly calibrated sets before we can pass judgment on anything.
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Your friend can make some adjustments to get the purple out if Pierce Brosnan's shirt. But yeah it's obvious, in this photo anyway, the superior picture is on top. We really need to look at two properly calibrated sets before we can pass judgment on anything.
The difference in person was much more striking in contrast and night scenes. There were some times I referred the FALD colors. The FALD is a very nice display.
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Your friend can make some adjustments to get the purple out if Pierce Brosnan's shirt. But yeah it's obvious, in this photo anyway, the superior picture is on top. We really need to look at two properly calibrated sets before we can pass judgment on anything.
The difference in person was much more striking in contrast and night scenes. There were some times I referred the FALD colors. The FALD is a very nice display.
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This is an example of FALD versus OLED. My friend brought over a FALD set which in its own right is very good but up against OLED it is not much of a contest. I will not state the FALD set as there is enough negative around here and I do not want to make people who might own this set upset.
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I am free of the 1st gen OLED, I returned it today. Yes, I am now known as the Return King, but that's OK because I am moving on the 2nd gen OLED and 10 bit color.

Now I am setting up the FALD in the above picture, my loaner for the next 1.5 weeks.

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So what are the odds you're going to keep the 55ec9300 before returning it for the 4K 65" version before your 30 days are up?
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I am free of the 1st gen OLED, I returned it today. Yes, I am now known as the Return King, but that's OK because I am moving on the 2nd gen OLED and 10 bit color.

Now I am setting up the FALD in the above picture, my loaner for the next 1.5 weeks.
Let us know when you return that one for the 65" 4K OLED.
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Let us know when you return that one for the 65" 4K OLED.

Great minds think alike???
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Blame LG not me. Why would I keep the 8bit panel and only save a couple hundred dollars. That would be foolsh.

I will not even be buying the 4k, the price is good I just am ok with 55" as it is what I have had for years. Plus I expect high lag on the 4k as all the other LG's have had. Can't you say 10 bit color and no more banding, yes indeed it will be good times.
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This is why I am happy about the Gen 2 OLED .

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What the heck, maybe I will wait for the 4k OLED and purchase from a online retailer to save tax.
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That's why I asked about which panel it used. One huge problem reduced. That banding is very annoying, impossible to miss though not as bad as the clipping of blacks (or black crush if you prefer).

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I actually had some banding on on my 1st gen OLED. It rarely occurred but should not be part of OLED.
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This is why I am happy about the Gen 2 OLED .

We've gone through this many times in the past when HD was new. I wouldn't take that picture too literally since more often than not, I've seen that kind of banding was content-related, not display-related.

I'm sure there are worthwhile improvements in the 2nd gen LG, but I wouldn't hang my hat on the banding piece...you'll still see it with some content.

I'm really surprised though you're not holding out for the 4K OLED. You've stated many times that's the 'cat's meow' of display technology, and I agree.
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What the heck, maybe I will wait for the 4k OLED and purchase from a online retailer to save tax.
All kidding aside, if you can afford it, I would get the 65" 4K OLED. Toshiba has managed to get 10-20ms lag with their new 65" 4K so if the LG has enough processing power it should at least be better than last years 40-50ms. You are also forgetting another important problem will be solved by going to 4K. The dead pixel problem. It will be almost impossible to see random dead pixels unless you get like 20 in one spot. It will also be harder to see the vertical line separation.
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