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The 4K models should be able to scale 1920x1080 Full HD 3D Blu-ray discs to 3960x1080 passive 3D. I haven't seen this on the LG yet, of course, but it will be a major attraction if it performs well. I can often ignore the jaggies and dark horizontal lines that regular 1920x1080 3D exhibits on passive displays (because of the loss of resolution to 540 lines), but I can always see the issue in certain types of scenes. The 4K LGs should eliminate those anomalies. This type of scaling works very well on a 4K passive 3D Sony (950) that I've viewed often at a Magnolia store here in St. Louis. I almost bought one, but I'm glad I waited for the LG OLEDs. The contrast on the Sony doesn't come close to the LG.

LG 4K LED/LCDs starting last year (LA9700) have already apparently demonstrated this capability, so I (and most) are assuming that the same 1080p 3D capability is being integrated into the 4K OLED TVs.
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Nothing as terrorizing as that Samsung rep. that was saying the LG OLED tvs have a life of two years.
What can a competitor say when there is a shift being created........ If no one introduces another TV technology, if no one can compete with LG OLED prices, LG could take the TV market......
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Read whole thread tonight. Exciting!


I suppose it would be madness to attempt to use a 55EC9300 as a computer monitor?
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Read whole thread tonight. Exciting!


I suppose it would be madness to attempt to use a 55EC9300 as a computer monitor?
Any plasma or OLED would not be a smart computer monitor.
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If i get it to were the motion is good and the film grainness is gone.
that's the problem i have with my 9800. It handles motion with a lot of stuttering. My old LG LCD handles that a lot better. on 24p movies with cameramovement it stutters even eith true motion on.

this film grainness is what I described as dithering. it ist totaly ugly and i didn't find a way to get it out even when I calibrated my tv.
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that's the problem i have with my 9800. It handles motion with a lot of stuttering. My old LG LCD handles that a lot better. on 24p movies with cameramovement it stutters even eith true motion on.

this film grainness is what I described as dithering. it ist totaly ugly and i didn't find a way to get it out even when I calibrated my tv.
I noticed that with scrolling text during the credits of a movie. I was not sure if it was the TV or the source.
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I noticed that with scrolling text during the credits of a movie. I was not sure if it was the TV or the source.
I've seen it during scrolling text at the bottom, like on espn
It will be smooth, then stutter which always made me wonder if it was the source as the stuttering wasn't consistent
I can't say I've noticed it on any content, specifically live sports
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I've seen it during scrolling text at the bottom, like on espn
It will be smooth, then stutter which always made me wonder if it was the source as the stuttering wasn't consistent
I can't say I've noticed it on any content, specifically live sports
good to hear. I am going to say that is the TV though. I noticed the judder on ESPN text on a few 4k LEDS and not on others. It also does not studder on my plasma.
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I only watched 10 minutes of the 2 day Shootout and my one take away was when D-Nice called us the 2%, he was spot on.
You missed the best part then - if you truly want an HT education go back in and locate the parts with Joe Kane perhaps number one globally on HT. His presentation would've been worthy of a Entrance Fee. Absolutely the best of the show at this event hands down especially since OLED's weren't visible to web viewers as they placed them on the bottom tier with audience blocking the camera.

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Which X950B did you have, the 65"?


Will be very interested in how you compare these two TVs once you have had a chance to dial-in your new set.


In fact, if you were to start a thread LG 55EC9300 OLED compared to Sony 65X950B I'm sure you would find a large number of interested viewers...
Yes I had the 65X950B. I don't want to start a thread because I honestly didn't use the TV long enough to have any real credibility. But I will try to give my first initial impressions between the two tv's.

Black levels on the LG are deeper which I didn't think was possible. But the Sony's black levels for a full array were very close.

Both tv's handle motion very well and haven't noticed a significant difference between the two.

The LG has much wider viewing angles than the Sony.

The Sony's 4k upscaler on the tv is really impressive. I did notice a difference between the two. Sony has definitely have the up-scaling down on the Sony 4k's. You notice a real difference from watching blurays.

Lg's operating system on the tv tends to be buggy right now where Sony has greatly improved theirs from last year. But hopefully updates will fix this in the future.

If anyone has any more questions I will try to answer it the best I can.
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reallly sounds like some of the people here are having the same issues. idk why your giving me such a hard time i ahve admitted maybe something was set up improper and im just trying to figure out what. OR that maybe we have a bad panel
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I've seen it during scrolling text at the bottom, like on espn
It will be smooth, then stutter which always made me wonder if it was the source as the stuttering wasn't consistent
I can't say I've noticed it on any content, specifically live sports
I noticed this on the 9800, never on the 9300. The 9300 motion is MUCH better than the 9800. This is a othe reason people should go with the 9300 or a 4k set, the engineers have been hard at work.

I am not just saying this, I do not know what LG did I am 100% content with the 9300 motion. As testified by one 9300 owner, he saw no difference when compared too his Kuro.

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I wasn't being nitpicky or looking for flaws at all. The pale yellow cast along the left side of the screen was readily obvious and slapped me in the face. Others noticed it too. Damn. I so wanted to take one home. But like said I'm not a videophile just an average Joe with an interest in newer tech.
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I wasn't being nitpicky or looking for flaws at all. The pale yellow cast along the left side of the screen was readily obvious and slapped me in the face. Others noticed it too. Damn. I so wanted to take one home. But like said I'm not a videophile just an average Joe with an interest in newer tech.
and that was against a gray screen?
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I wasn't being nitpicky or looking for flaws at all. The pale yellow cast along the left side of the screen was readily obvious and slapped me in the face. Others noticed it too. Damn. I so wanted to take one home. But like said I'm not a videophile just an average Joe with an interest in newer tech.
Yes, the 9300 is not for an average Joe, it really is for the Videophile. So why do you continue to hang out on this site, it is for owners of the set? There are plenty of average Joe LCD sights.
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I would leave the Sharpness at its default factory value.
That would not be a very good idea.
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After living with the 9300 for several days and comparing it too the 9800, I have come too the following conclusion.


The 9300 is so much better then the 9800, I would label the 9800 an OLED experiment not ready for prime time compared with the 9300. I would avoid it and if you want a much better display and you need to save money, purchase a 9300 from the sponsor of this site. You will be much better off.

The DSE and uniformity issues that will display them selves in content are not present in the 9300, not tool mention confirmed cases of burn-in.
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I noticed this on the 9800, never on the 9300. The 9300 motion is MUCH better than the 9800. This is a othe reason people should go with the 9300 or a 4k set, the engineers have been hard at work.

I am not just saying this, I do not know what LG did I am 100% content with the 9300 motion. As testified by one 9300 owner, he saw no difference when compared too his Kuro.
honestly vegas, i have no issues with the motion of the 9800
like i said, the only motion issues I saw with it was the scrolling words, nothing in any real content like a live NFL game or even video games
im not sure how much better it can get

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After living with the 9300 for several days and comparing it too the 9800, I have come too the following conclusion.


The 9300 is so much better then the 9800, I would label the 9800 an OLED experiment not ready for prime time compared with the 9300. I would avoid it and if you want a much better display and you need to save money, purchase a 9300 from the sponsor of this site. You will be much better off.

The DSE and uniformity issues that will display them selves in content are not present in the 9300, not tool mention confirmed cases of burn-in.
never have seen dse from my 9800(only from the content that also showed on my plasma) and the only time i saw the uniformity issues in content is when i stare at the right hand of the screen and wait for content to be consistent enough(like a gray slide) to notice the darker right side
but, thats not how i watch tv
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I also notice ALOOOOOOOOOOT of noise and fim grain in the screen.
Which is a good thing! If you are right, then it would seem, that the undefeatable DNR could really be a thing of the past with the 55EC9300. Now LG only have to get rid of the overly aggressive ABL and the skewed gamma response.
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honestly vegas, i have no issues with the motion of the 9800
like i said, the only motion issues I saw with it was the scrolling words, nothing in any real content like a live NFL game or even video games
im not sure how much better it can get

never have seen dse from my 9800(only from the content that also showed on my plasma) and the only time i saw the uniformity issues in content is when i stare at the right hand of the screen and wait for content to be consistent enough(like a gray slide) to notice the darker right side
but, thats not how i watch tv
Than you might also have a bad plasma.
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reallly sounds like some of the people here are having the same issues. idk why your giving me such a hard time i ahve admitted maybe something was set up improper and im just trying to figure out what. OR that maybe we have a bad panel
Does the BB inventory system provide any information on when to expect the 65 and 77"? Thanks
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Which is a good thing! If you are right, then it would seem, that the undefeatable DNR could really be a thing of the past with the 55EC9300. Now LG only have to get rid of the overly aggressive ABL and the skewed gamma response.
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May I remind you that you folks look rather foolish bad mouthing a set that beat every other display in the Shoot out. I would go as far as too say you look like clowns.
So you want to keep the skewed gamma and clownish ABL? Fine with me, just don't update the firmware of your precious 55EC9300.

Myself on the other hand wants a bigger panel than 55 inch, but when LG couldn't take their act together and fix these two problems, my only options would be either 55EA8800 or one of the last 65VT60.

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I dont think the 9300 is much diff from the 9800
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I wasn't being nitpicky or looking for flaws at all. The pale yellow cast along the left side of the screen was readily obvious and slapped me in the face. Others noticed it too. Damn. I so wanted to take one home. But like said I'm not a videophile just an average Joe with an interest in newer tech.
After having a couple days messing with the 9300 and for the sake of having all info get out there, good or bad, I too noticed this effect on the left side of my screen,although it appears to only be about an inch on the left side while on a light/or grayish screen. Not as noticeable on a gray slide though? Strange. Anyways, this effect was easily adjusted out with slight adjustment to the OLED light level/picture mode. I do believe it is something to keep an eye out for. This may also be the effect D-nice noticed at the shoot out that he confirmed was able to be adjusted out?
I will put the panel through it's paces more this week. I don't remember seeing the effect on any blurays.

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I am almost ready to pull the trigger on one of these bad boys and I have been following this thread since day one. However the only thing holding me back is input lag and there hasn't been a clear answer yet as to how bad/good it is. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated?

Also a side question, I haven't looked at OLED in a while, is burn in still a problem with these news sets? What about image retention?
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Yes I had the 65X950B. I don't want to start a thread because I honestly didn't use the TV long enough to have any real credibility. But I will try to give my first initial impressions between the two tv's.

Black levels on the LG are deeper which I didn't think was possible. But the Sony's black levels for a full array were very close.

Both tv's handle motion very well and haven't noticed a significant difference between the two.

The LG has much wider viewing angles than the Sony.

The Sony's 4k upscaler on the tv is really impressive. I did notice a difference between the two. Sony has definitely have the up-scaling down on the Sony 4k's. You notice a real difference from watching blurays.

Lg's operating system on the tv tends to be buggy right now where Sony has greatly improved theirs from last year. But hopefully updates will fix this in the future.

If anyone has any more questions I will try to answer it the best I can.
Yet, you still chose the OLED. What was the deciding factor?
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Yet, you still chose the OLED. What was the deciding factor?
65 inch tv was just too big for my studio apartment. If I had my old apartment it would have been perfect, but right now I just had to down size.
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I wasn't being nitpicky or looking for flaws at all. The pale yellow cast along the left side of the screen was readily obvious and slapped me in the face. Others noticed it too. Damn. I so wanted to take one home. But like said I'm not a videophile just an average Joe with an interest in newer tech.
After having a couple days messing with the 9300 and for the sake of having all info get out there, good or bad, I too noticed this effect on the left side of my screen,although it appears to only be about an inch on the left side while on a light/or grayish screen. Not as noticeable on a gray slide though? Strange. Anyways, this effect was easily adjusted out with slight adjustment to the OLED light level/picture mode. I do believe it is something to keep an eye out for. This may also be the effect D-nice noticed at the shoot out that he confirmed was able to be adjusted out?
I will put the panel through it's paces more this week. I don't remember seeing the effect on any blurays.
Thanks I'll be looking for your report. And if it is indeed a simple fix. I will buy.
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Has anyone been successful at getting Best Buy to price match $3K? Few people here claim they have, yet they told me there's absolutely no way.
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Has anyone been successful at getting Best Buy to price match $3K? Few people here claim they have, yet they told me there's absolutely no way.
If you have a PC Richard and Son nearby go there first and have one of the the home theater guys give you a card and write the price $3000 on the back and they will most likely price match it. PC Richard and Son was willing to do $3000 for me but Best Buy had it in stock and much rather give them the business. But you will loose the sound-bar deal most likely doing so.
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