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My last 9800 was the absolute worst, it had horrible line across the screen. Most are like 5x10 described one side (usually both) but usually one side darker then the other.
vegas, were you able to take pics of the banding?
if so, could you please post them in the 9800 thread?
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Every year we should see slight improvements, I would say the 9300 is a little more than slight.

That's good news (for both LG and us-)
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The menus is different, Cinema replaces THX and Cinema is adjustable as THX was not. I was able to turn off the noise filters so I do not know what they were referring too at the Shootout. Cinema looks very good in default as THX on the 9800 never did to me.

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I will post photos later as it's high noon in he living room and not the best time for photos. The box looks exactly the same as the 9800 so nothing exciting. The over display looks Much better than the 9800 as others stated the curve looks less without the goofy 9800 stand. No doubt it would look good on a wall, not as good as flat but curve looks slight.
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I was able to turn off the noise filters so I do not know what they were referring too at the Shootout.
Unfortunately, having the option in the Menu means nothing for the actual filter, not necessarily. LG does this nonsense since 2007 at least.
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Unfortunately, having the option in the Menu means nothing for the actual filter, not necessarily. LG does this nonsense since 2007 at least.
It's says off not sure if it is, the Picture is incredible, I have absolutely nothing bad too say about the 9300.
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don't be superexcited, as much as I hope it'll be issue-free, but don't forget that customers usually find out about flaws as they start to dig down further
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Vegas,

Do you have a PS4 or any game systems that you play? Curious about input lag...

Thanks!
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Do we know for sure that this FW update wasn't available when D-nice did the calibration?
Now we would need to find out if LG simply re-added the DNR option without actually fixing it or if they listened to the criticism and and fixed it in only 4 days.
What would be the easiest way to test it?
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Vegas,

Do you have a PS4 or any game systems that you play? Curious about input lag...

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Seconded... please check input lag for us gamers curious in purchasing the set. I do see an xbox and ps4 in your pic lol
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Reviewed.com, Ok to use their CMS for gray scale accept I want -40 blue at 10 ire. Be carful because as with everything with this review, the calibrated settings are not written well.

I thought the update took but it did not until after I turned it off and on. The Review.com setting where horrible. Make sure you update prior to calibrating.

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I'm not sure if you can test it, but I'm curious if you can see an increase in brightness when you max out the setting. LG was supposed to increase this spec substantially but I'm not sure if that just applied to the 4K sets.
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Best Buy in my local area had one at display. I had a little chat with an employee and the guy was very knowledgeable and enthusiastic about OLED. Tv is darn sexy.


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Saw the demo unit at BB Montclair. I spotted the Oled about 40-50 feet before I even hit the tv section. The Oled stood out from every LED/4k tv around it. Those blacks,unreal! Contrast and color were outstanding, although it looked like it needed to be "dialed in" a little bit. Just confirms my next tv will be an Oled. Probably the 65 though

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Vegas - was the stand already attached in the box?

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Vegas - was the stand already attached in the box?
Yes it was.
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Speaking of the stand, I'd be interested in your report about how reflective the stand is in a dark room with bright screen content. As you know my 9800 stand is flush with the screen and clear. I don't have issues with distracting reflections in a dark room. The leaf stand projects out past the screen so wondering how it handles reflections.

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Wow Vegas congratulations. I will buy my EC9300 as soon as it arrives here in my country.

Can you do a review of Game Mode please. Quality of this mode vs Cinema Mode, can you select BT709 Color Space while in Game Mode? IRE Calibration while in Game Mode - like in ISF Mode? No flicker?

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Wow Vegas congratulations. I will buy my EC9300 as soon as it arrives here in my country.

Can you do a review of Game Mode please. Quality of this mode vs Cinema Mode, can you select BT709 Color Space while in Game Mode? IRE Calibration while in Game Mode - like in ISF Mode? No flicker?

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The calibration setting from the review.com work very well. I know I was not a fan of it but the calibrator is very good. Just realize the top setting are for the 2 point and not the 20 pouint CMS. Professional calibration would best.

If you would tell me how to test input lag I would be glad to do it. There is not an ISF mode but a Cinema which is is similar but allowed tweaking.

IMO the 9300 is a better picture than the 9800 but each of us see things different,
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I will note that I had to do a software update and the menu does let me turn off all noise reduction filters.
It has already been stated by David in the shootout thread that this option does nothing. DNR is still enabled. It's been like this on all LG sets - not just this OLED.

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Yes, as described above but you can calibrate to remove and not visible in cinema mode. What was on the 9800 is not something that can be calibrated too remove And once your sub-pixels are dead, they are not coming back.
You can't calibrate out color uniformity issues because calibration settings apply to the entire screen. If the center is green and the edges are red, there is really nothing that can be done about it. I suggest you check out some Black & White movies to see if it's noticeable in actual content as D-Nice stated.

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One of the patents LG has spoken of is the technology to restore bad sub pixels. I'm thinking they do that as a step after manufacturing. This is one of the steps they apparently do to improve yields.
If true, I wonder if that is a permanent fix or just a temporary revival long enough to keep people from returning the set in the first 30 days.

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I'm not sure if you can test it, but I'm curious if you can see an increase in brightness when you max out the setting. LG was supposed to increase this spec substantially but I'm not sure if that just applied to the 4K sets.
The 9800 measured ~24 fL on full screen white. The 9300 measured 13 fL. Both sets hit about 100 fL on the smaller window pattern.

If those brightness increase claims are true, they must only apply to the UHD sets.

I wonder why LG made the ABL so much more aggressive on the 2014 model. Maybe to reduce IR/BI or prolong panel life?
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The calibration setting from the review.com work very well. I know I was not a fan of it but the calibrator is very good. Just realize the top setting are for the 2 point and not the 20 pouint CMS. Professional calibration would best.

If you would tell me how to test input lag I would be glad to do it. There is not an ISF mode but a Cinema which is is similar but allowed tweaking.

IMO the 9300 is a better picture than the 9800 but each of us see things different,
Thank you.

Talking about Game Mode:

-BT709 color space available?
-2 and 20 point ire calibration?
-Why not use game mode for watching movies. etc? Input lag makes movies less fluid, less natural.

Talking in general, have you noticed hints of 240hz or 10-bit color?

You need a Leo Bodnar lag tester tool.

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It has already been stated by David in the shootout thread that this option does nothing. DNR is still enabled. It's been like this on all LG sets - not just this OLED.
Well perhaps this software update corrected the DNR issue.
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It has already been stated by David in the shootout thread that this option does nothing. DNR is still enabled. It's been like this on all LG sets - not just this OLED.



You can't calibrate out color uniformity issues because calibration settings apply to the entire screen. If the center is green and the edges are red, there is really nothing that can be done about it. I suggest you check out some Black & White movies to see if it's noticeable in actual content as D-Nice stated.



If true, I wonder if that is a permanent fix or just a temporary revival long enough to keep people from returning the set in the first 30 days.



The 9800 measured ~24 fL on full screen white. The 9300 measured 13 fL. Both sets hit about 100 fL on the smaller window pattern.

If those brightness increase claims are true, they must only apply to the UHD sets.

I wonder why LG made the ABL so much more aggressive on the 2014 model. Maybe to reduce IR/BI or prolong panel life?

I believe I read somewhere in the live feed thread that someone asked the LG representative that exact question and was answered in the affirmative (reduce IR and extend panel life).

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Added vent to the back, front seems much cooler

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You can't calibrate out color uniformity issues because calibration settings apply to the entire screen. If the center is green and the edges are red, there is really nothing that can be done about it. I suggest you check out some Black & White movies to see if it's noticeable in actual content as D-Nice stated.


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Did you read where D-Nice though calibration did the exact thing you claim cannot be done? I am so tired of the know it alls on this forum I am about to make this my last post. Please stop making up stop out of thin air.

Please in the future research the facts and do not post without knowing the facts

I am so tired of people making up stuff or not researching the facts and posting complete inaccurate Garbage on these forums.

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Did you read where D-Nice did though calibration did the exact thing you claim cannot be done? I am so tired of the know it alls on this forum I am about to make this my last post. Please stop making up stop out of thin air.

Please in the future research the facts and do not post without knowing the facts
Vegas, if you check page 1, post 26 of this thread, I have quoted d-nice, where he states that you can calibrate the grayscale banding out
He makes no mention of the red/green being able to be calibrated out, only that it was present
I could not find any posts backing up your claim so I'm not sure your facts are right

I would be interested to know if you have seen any of this, do you have sin city on blu ray to test for it?
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Vegas, if you check page 1, post 26 of this thread, I have quoted d-nice, where he states that you can calibrate the grayscale banding out
He makes no mention of the red/green being able to be calibrated out, only that it was present
I could not find any posts backing up your claim so I'm not sure your facts are right

I would be interested to know if you have seen any of this, do you have sin city on blu ray to test for it? Just face it, you have a 9800 and it a 1st gen proven too get burn-in, be very careful with it. My advise too anyone in my final post is always purchase the latest generation and then stay the Hellaway from this forum so you can enjoy your purchase before the Attackers come out.
. Buy a 9300 It Smokes the 9800.

He calibrated the set in the Shootout, I am so tired of the people on this forum, this is my last post.
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Added vent to the back, front seems much cooler

Maybe the vents will help the the discoloration from the heat of the control boards.
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