Well I finally just got the refund for my 2nd 55EC9300. Best Buy was not happy and they were claiming I was nuts (They took it out in the store and popped in a blu-ray). I told them with the store lighting and not having advanced calibrated charts, this proves nothing. He had to set Gamma to 1.9 and brightness to 66 in order to see darker shades of black. I tried to explain to him, if I used those settings in a pitch black room, the picture would be terrible and far from accurate
I just went back to my 3 year old HX929, did a full no-headache grayscale and primary/secondary color calibration using the LCD profile instead of the OLED profile. Same exact method I used on both the OLEDs. Dialed in, charts look great, and display looks very accurate. Colors are right. Looks nothing
like my calibrated OLED, both of them simply refused to do accurate color on defaults and my calibrated settings (especially in the yellows, i'm looking at you Simpsons). CIE chart claimed yellows were accurate at 75% and 100%, but side-by-side comparison while looking at a calibrated HX929 and a calibrated Samsung OLED proved it simply wasn't true.
I have a few thoughts:
- My i1 Display Pro may not be working well with LG OLEDs, but it is advertised to work. I can't get certain tones and colors to be remotely accurate even when bypassing the sensor and using two people's eyes instead.
- The HCFR OLED profile may not work well with the new LG, but again even trying to eyeball it, I could not get certain yellow shades remotely accurate.
- The colors all appear "whiter" than any display i've ever seen, it really shows during animation. There is no way to fix it from my ~20 hours of messing with the display. I believe it is caused by LG's White/RGB design. The Samsung OLED doesn't have this issue, and I know it uses just a RGB design.
- Lower end gray scale is simply bad on both of the LG sets I had, may be possible to fix with very advanced gamma calibration and hardware. You can't fix them without throwing the entire middle and upper gray scale out of wack, or at least I couldn't. This issue does not appear on the HX929 and Samsung OLED. I'd imagine some of the professional calibrators could manage. Losing 3-4% gray on OLED really hurts the entire point of OLED's infinite contrast ratio. You are paying a premium for only 55", you need to be able to see that shadow detail!
With that said, I'd imagine 99% people would buy this TV and enjoy it with default settings. At the same time, I don't see the 99% buying OLED over 65" 4K screens at the same price. I expected way more from a premium display, and LG clearly did not put the effort into making sure a TV designed for the 1% videophiles was close to reference out of the box.
I shall start saving money up for the 65EC9700. Hopefully it's a different story with it's much higher price tag.
Originally Posted by Vegas oled
This is what you see in content, just excellent picture quality. This was before calibration and just a 1080i direct tv feed.
Honestly, I just see black crush that has the effect of making the picture seem vibrant. It's hard to tell with a camera, so maybe i'm wrong, but I see literally no details in her hair. If you want a picture that "pops" than this set is likely great, if you want one that is accurate.. let's see if the pros can manage to dial this set in.