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I can only get it flat in my trailblazer.
I picked it up AND returned it today in my Trailblazer, on its side This thing is packed extremely well. I think you'll be fine as long as u don't go off roading. When I picked it up the BB guy brought it out with the box standing on its side on a dolly. I carried into my place by myself.

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Local best buy. Either dead or stuck... I know this may not be widespread, but when I read about it and then the first one I see has this.... Let's just say it doesn't scream buy me.
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I picked it up AND returned it today in my Trailblazer, on its side This thing is packed extremely well. I think you'll be fine as long as u don't go off roading. When I picked it up the BB guy brought it out with the box standing on its side on a dolly. I carried into my place by myself.
How come you returned it?
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How come you returned it?
Coming from a 60" Sharp Elite, the LG was just too small for my needs. I have my sights on the 65EC9700 though. I really had no intention of keeping the 55", but I liked it so much I damn near kept it. Can't downsize though, just can't. I wouldn't have been happy in the long run with a 55".

My week or so with the 9300 did confirm to me that I can live with the slight curve and that the Oled IS a nice step up in pq from my Elite. I have no reservations in making the 65" Oled my next purchase.
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Stand it up! The TV box has little pics that show you not to lay them down or stack them.
Congrats on your new 9300!
Thank you Marty, this set is fantastic, thanks for sharing your experiences, I paid particular attention to your experience before pulling the trigger on this amazing set!
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Anyone tried wall mounting it yet using a standard vesa wall mount? According to page 16 in the manual it seems any VESA wall mount that will fit this TV is ok.

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Coming from a 60" Sharp Elite, the LG was just too small for my needs. I have my sights on the 65EC9700 though. I really had no intention of keeping the 55", but I liked it so much I damn near kept it. Can't downsize though, just can't. I wouldn't have been happy in the long run with a 55".

My week or so with the 9300 did confirm to me that I can live with the slight curve and that the Oled IS a nice step up in pq from my Elite. I have no reservations in making the 65" Oled my next purchase.
What an unfortunate impulse buy.
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Decided to wait a lill more asi found out the price is set this low and not a timed deal.
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Preliminary IR report

Been watching the forum here daily to see if anyone has had any issues with IR or even noticed it, and what they are doing to prevent and/or correct it. After scouring the web for commercial site reviews, I notice that none of them even mention IR or the possibility of it, other than my own review I put up on Bezos' site.

I have noticed IR lasting for perhaps a second or so and quickly fading after a very bright image appears on the dark background during content play. I don't notice it being induced by medium level or low light level images.

Watching an hour or so at a time of 4:3 content has yet to give me noticeable IR remnants of black bars after doing so, but I always switch back to 16:9 for a bit before turning off the set.

I am still judiciously alternating my content aspect ratios and avoiding anything with station logos for longer than an hour and then "washing" the screen with break in slides or 16:9 non logo material. The jury is still out on just how long a break-in period this TV may need and I love it so much I would hate to ruin my almost pristine PQ by burning in black bars or station logos. (darn those station logos and tickers)

I am particularly interested in finding out if any owners here have been watching 4:3 or letter boxed films and then noticed IR of the black bars and if so, how long they stayed visible and what you did to try and get rid of it. I am just trying to decide if I am being overly cautious or if there is a good reason for temporarily curtailing my normal viewing habits. I am only up to 60 hours now but have played slides while off doing something else to try and speed up panel aging a bit.

One thing I have noticed is that the more hours that go by, the more settled in the display has become for both sharpness/detail and color saturation across the board. I have been pleasantly surprised at how objects in the background have retained more actual detail/fine delineation, much more than the upscaling from my LG LA9700.

So please weigh in with your IR observations. Sooner or later somebody may have a problem with it and knowing what to expect either way would come in handy. **I believe burn-in would only be the result of blatant panel abuse, but that is staying on the hopeful side of things.

Thanks in advance for any and all observations on the subject of IR!
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Thank you Marty, this set is fantastic, thanks for sharing your experiences, I paid particular attention to your experience before pulling the trigger on this amazing set!
My pleasure! That's great! Congratulations!

I have noticed this TV actually improves with age. Image is more stable, and overall has more fine delineation and color stability. I liken it to a "Super Trinitron" as it reminds me a lot of the very last Sony 1080i CRT Trinitron's , only bigger and better. Luckily the LG weighs in at around 37 pounds, rather than 200 !
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Funny you should mention the Sony 1080i CRT XBR Trinitrons as I bought 2 about 8 years ago (did not want to buy panels just yet) and still enjoying them both. I knew it would take many years for panels to improve to the level of the Sony CRT. But I am ready for a 65 in. OLED if LG or Samsung can get them to a good enough level that even I will be tempted. Secretly, I am hoping they will die a respectable death but my wife and I still cannot seem to part with them as they are still that good.
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Coming from a 60" Sharp Elite, the LG was just too small for my needs. I have my sights on the 65EC9700 though. I really had no intention of keeping the 55", but I liked it so much I damn near kept it. Can't downsize though, just can't. I wouldn't have been happy in the long run with a 55".

My week or so with the 9300 did confirm to me that I can live with the slight curve and that the Oled IS a nice step up in pq from my Elite. I have no reservations in making the 65" Oled my next purchase.
That's what I felt too coming out of the shootout. As good as my Sharp Elite is (or my F8500, for that matter), the LG is still in a different league.
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Funny you should mention the Sony 1080i CRT XBR Trinitrons as I bought 2 about 8 years ago (did not want to buy panels just yet) and still enjoying them both. I knew it would take many years for panels to improve to the level of the Sony CRT. But I am ready for a 65 in. OLED if LG or Samsung can get them to a good enough level that even I will be tempted. Secretly, I am hoping they will die a respectable death but my wife and I still cannot seem to part with them as they are still that good.
We still have the WEGA KD-34XBR970 and it performs as it did the day we powered it on back in 2006. Weighs a ton and puts out enough heat for the entire house, but otherwise still a delicious looking display. It will be sad day when it finally bites the dust. No signs of that happening yet though.

I feel the 9300 is more "Trinitron like" than my Kuro was. Something organic about it. (no pun intended)
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"One thing I have noticed is that the more hours that go by, the more settled in the display has become for both sharpness/detail and color saturation across the board. I have been pleasantly surprised at how objects in the background have retained more actual detail/fine delineation, much more than the upscaling from my LG LA9700."

Sounds like people should wait a while for the display to settle in before doing a calibration. Thanks for sharing that insight.
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^ Agreed. Just like a plasma or CRT. It's not surprising how many characteristics these emissive displays share.
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I think it's important to note that it's almost impossible to have a truly white, uniform screen, with any technology. I've never seen it and I've had 2 Fujitsus, 2 Pioneer Elites, a Samsung F8500, a Sony XBR929 and a Sharp Elite. FWIW, the Elite has the closest to a uniform, full-screen white, but even there is isn't truly uniform from edge to edge. Of those displays, the only one whose uniformity bothered me to the extent that I returned it, was the Sony 929.

Instead of obsessing on these pictures of a white or gray screen (which by the picture's very nature may exaggerate the true appearance), owners should simply comment on how, if at all, this translates to enjoying actual content. Of course if all you do is watch slides or full-screen white fields, ignore what I'm saying.

I'm convinced that some people would return their displays if they saw uniformity issues that were never visible with actual content. I think the thought that 'it's just there' is enough to drive some nuts. Personally I'm pretty anal, but not 'that' anal. If from my seating position, content doesn't reveal an actual anomaly that's there (yes, that includes a stuck or dead pixel), then I'm really OK.
Sure that ist possible.


For example: Panasonic ST30 and ST60.
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See the panel driver shape is diffrent on the 9300 this year a pyramid shape. Still can se em close up but they hidden in the black frame under the screen.
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Sure that ist possible.


For example: Panasonic ST30 and ST60.

Your panels aren't perfect. Based on your pics, I see some light pink tinge on your 100% white and sharpness test slide.

Also with OLED you don't need bias lighting.

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Just bad Pictures. Because of the fast switching of those Panels.


The Panels are clean as a paper. Trust me. I got them here.


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I have been following this discussion from the very start..

A big Thank You to everyone for taking the time to contribute your real world experience and share your findings with everyone.
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Why is plasma owners always in the need to post pictures in Oled posts? Plasma is dead World moved on ...
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OK guys! Went to Best Buy, brought my Leo Bodnar input lag tester, in normal mode it got 119ms.

I then took the tv out of store mode and into home mode, labeled HDMI input to PC and used standard picture mode and got 40.9ms.

Then also changed the picture mode from standard to Game mode and got the below 29.6ms!!!!!!

image by CoolHandsM3, on Flickr!!!


Guys, my Elite Kuro gets 41.2ms in PC mode, best it can do, this LG oled just destroyed my Kuro Blacks are infinitely better on the Oled and the input lag is much less.

Must have gaming tv of the year IMHO.

So to recap, to get best input lag of 29.6ms on the new LG OLE 55EC9300 is to label HDMI input PC then change picture mode to game.

So I bought the tv, best gaming tv I have ever used, small recap of tvs/ monitors I have to compare where I am coming from:

Pioneer Elite Pro1150 Kuro
Pioneer Elite Pro110 Kuro
Pioneer Elite Pr0111 Kuro
Pioneer Elite Pro101 Kuro ISF calibrated by D-Nice
Samsung 55F7100 ISF calibrated by D-Nice
Samsung 65H8000 ISF calibrated by D-Nice ( will be selling on ebay)
Sony 52HX909
Sony 34XBR910 (crt)
Sony 24GDMFW900 ( crt)
LG 15EL9000 ( Oled )

This tv is better then all of the above... any questions fire away.

Now to get D-Nice to ISF this OLED ;O
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[QUOTE=vaktmestern;27048722]Why is plasma owners always in the need to post pictures in Oled posts? Plasma is dead World moved on ...[/QUOTE

Plasma was/still is a fantastic technology if you still own one. But we are now at the beginning of another evolution of tv. Hail the era of OLED
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OK guys! Went to Best Buy, brought my Leo Bodnar input lag tester, in normal mode it got 119ms.

I then took the tv out of store mode and into home mode, labeled HDMI input to PC and used standard picture mode and got 40.9ms.

Then also changed the picture mode from standard to Game mode and got the below 29.6ms!!!!!!

image by CoolHandsM3, on Flickr!!!


Guys, my Elite Kuro gets 41.2ms in PC mode, best it can do, this LG oled just destroyed my Kuro Blacks are infinitely better on the Oled and the input lag is much less.

Must have gaming tv of the year IMHO.

So to recap, to get best input lag of 29.6ms on the new LG OLE 55EC9300 is to label HDMI input PC then change picture mode to game.

So I bought the tv, best gaming tv I have ever used, small recap of tvs/ monitors I have to compare where I am coming from:

Pioneer Elite Pro1150 Kuro
Pioneer Elite Pro110 Kuro
Pioneer Elite Pr0111 Kuro
Pioneer Elite Pro101 Kuro ISF calibrated by D-Nice
Samsung 55F7100 ISF calibrated by D-Nice
Samsung 65H8000 ISF calibrated by D-Nice ( will be selling on ebay)
Sony 52HX909
Sony 34XBR910 (crt)
Sony 24GDMFW900 ( crt)
LG 15EL9000 ( Oled )

This tv is better then all of the above... any questions fire away.

Now to get D-Nice to ISF this OLED ;O
29.6 as a heavy gamer its fantastic Thank you for this test.
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Yup, in your attached pictures I see color impurities there too.
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I can't believe how amazing this tv is for gaming..... there is no ghosting, 60 fps gaming is bliss on here, no phosphor lag...
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OK guys! Went to Best Buy, brought my Leo Bodnar input lag tester, in normal mode it got 119ms.

I then took the tv out of store mode and into home mode, labeled HDMI input to PC and used standard picture mode and got 40.9ms.

Then also changed the picture mode from standard to Game mode and got the below 29.6ms!!!!!!

image by CoolHandsM3, on Flickr!!!


Guys, my Elite Kuro gets 41.2ms in PC mode, best it can do, this LG oled just destroyed my Kuro Blacks are infinitely better on the Oled and the input lag is much less.

Must have gaming tv of the year IMHO.

So to recap, to get best input lag of 29.6ms on the new LG OLE 55EC9300 is to label HDMI input PC then change picture mode to game.

So I bought the tv, best gaming tv I have ever used, small recap of tvs/ monitors I have to compare where I am coming from:

Pioneer Elite Pro1150 Kuro
Pioneer Elite Pro110 Kuro
Pioneer Elite Pr0111 Kuro
Pioneer Elite Pro101 Kuro ISF calibrated by D-Nice
Samsung 55F7100 ISF calibrated by D-Nice
Samsung 65H8000 ISF calibrated by D-Nice ( will be selling on ebay)
Sony 52HX909
Sony 34XBR910 (crt)
Sony 24GDMFW900 ( crt)
LG 15EL9000 ( Oled )

This tv is better then all of the above... any questions fire away.

Now to get D-Nice to ISF this OLED ;O
I mostly use my tv for gaming. This is the news I have been waiting for. What type of games do you mostly play? For me it's FPS. I'm liking forward to feedback when you get thanks
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I mostly use my tv for gaming. This is the news I have been waiting for. What type of games do you mostly play? For me it's FPS. I'm liking forward to feedback when you get thanks
I play FPS, racing, fighters...

BF4 60FPS is bliss on here!! So is Metro Redux, I have to tell you, I loved the 15 inch LG oled I had a couple yrs ago but this is so vastly improved, the motion is fantastic! There is no after image, no phosphor lag, the blur at 60 fps is a non issue, I am really floored by this, again, look at the tvs I have had, I mainly used them for gaming, and nothing comes close to this!

BTW I couldn't get Best Buy to lower the price to $3k :/ How did others accomplish that? No online store has it in stock.
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29.6ms is Killer. Very nice:-)


But compared to the 41 ms of your current set it is not that much.


30fps game = Every 33 ms a frame is displayed. So with 29,6ms it should be lag free!? Don't know.


So your current display is just 1 frame behind.


You will not game better with the Oled. ;-)
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