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Maybe in 2015 "Pioneer" will bring us a Kuro OLED Master Panel :)

I've read too many things about OLED. When the technology was presented it was amazing, but when burned screens started to come up and blue led short life and all that stuff, i wasn't that much teased to buy it.

However the 3thrd Gen is coming awesome and LG (i brand that doesn't take my enthusiasm) is the proof.

I was thinking to buy a Sony S90 or even a Panasonic AX900 but i want to wait for some premium brand like Pioneer or Panasonic to deliveer a "65" or "70" OLED with a premium Master Panel.

How long do you guys think we have to wait to see this? 1, 2 more years maybe?
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I've read too many things about OLED. When the technology was presented it was amazing, but when burned screens started to come up and blue led short life and all that stuff, i wasn't that much teased to buy it.

However the 3thrd Gen is coming awesome and LG (i brand that doesn't take my enthusiasm) is the proof.

I was thinking to buy a Sony S90 or even a Panasonic AX900 but i want to wait for some premium brand like Pioneer or Panasonic to deliveer a "65" or "70" OLED with a premium Master Panel.

How long do you guys think we have to wait to see this? 1, 2 more years maybe?
Pioneer is moving out of the consumer electronics business entirely; why would they move into such a competitive market again? Panasonic, a former plasma giant, is also placing far less significance on TVs and consumer electronics, instead focusing on batteries for EV manufacturers such as Tesla.

One of the problems for OLED is overcoming poor yields; I believe Pioneer had a >99% yield on their plasma panels, but LG has a yield around 80%. This increases the cost significantly. Also, OLED burns in rapidly (faster than plasma it appears), has IR problems and uniformity issues (worse than DSE.)
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I saw an article couple of months ago that Pioneer was coming back to the TV business with their high quality standards as they had sign up contract with a manufacturer.
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These Kuro LCDs are just custom engineered Sharp LCD TVs. They are no doubt very good TVs but you cannot expect anything more than average picture performance from them. I think they are now discontinued as they sold even worse than the plasma models. They didn't even change the menu interface. I have a 32" Sharp with the same menus as the Kuro LCDs.
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I've read too many things about OLED. When the technology was presented it was amazing, but when burned screens started to come up and blue led short life and all that stuff, i wasn't that much teased to buy it.

However the 3thrd Gen is coming awesome and LG (i brand that doesn't take my enthusiasm) is the proof.

I was thinking to buy a Sony S90 or even a Panasonic AX900 but i want to wait for some premium brand like Pioneer or Panasonic to deliveer a "65" or "70" OLED with a premium Master Panel.

How long do you guys think we have to wait to see this? 1, 2 more years maybe?
If you take an objective, hard look at the LG OLED, you'd see why you should dismiss any negative bias toward the LG brand. There simply isn't enough data to know if any of the 2 OLED brands are more burn prone than plasma or have a shorter life than plasma. Being brand loyal and believing that the best panels will always come from a Sony, Panasonic or Pioneer, is bound to bring about disappointment at some point.

Being brand agnostic, and simply going with the best TVs that are currently being produced, is a better path to success.
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Pioneer is moving out of the consumer electronics business entirely; why would they move into such a competitive market again? Panasonic, a former plasma giant, is also placing far less significance on TVs and consumer electronics, instead focusing on batteries for EV manufacturers such as Tesla.
exactly!!

with the financial bath Pioneer took on Tv's...and really not doing well on anything other car audio

I see this as not even a remote possibility

Panasonic right behind them...as you stated ,in distancing itself from consumer electronics

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