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LG should update the fw to open up adjustments on HDR.
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I really don't like hearing this. This is the biggest concern I've had while awaiting the arrival of my 65EF9500. I think I can deal with the other issues, but constant motion and judder issues will probably make me return it no matter how good the picture is.
It bugs us! I'm going to try with ™ turned off for a while to see if we can get used to that. I have about 40 days to return this set to Best Buy.

May go back to the Elite KURO and wait for a while for LG to resolve this issue...

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And here is 4%. This shows the most noticable black 'fingers by eyeball' but they don't show up in the iPad photo. Not sure if they will appear on content or not.

Right side vignette is still noticably worse than left side vignette (which is basically none), but 2" of solid black vignette is now reduced to 1" fingers about every 1/8th screen.

I would have to say that the Vignetting on the right has improved by at least 50% after just one compensation cycle...
Hmm... your vignetting looks a lot more uniform then mine. Mine is downright WAF (wavy as f*** ). I've got 2" on the left and 3" on the right. Its on a Mexico 508 @ 38 hrs. I've got my Disney WOW BluRay supposedly coming today, so I'll do a calibration and see where the vignetting is after that. Then I guess I'll call up Robert to get a swap .
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http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...tv-er%2f193623


An article on the future of LG oled in 2016. Worth a read! Hint you may want to wait a year if you really don't need a tv right now!
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I just received my 510 today to replace my 509 build suffering from yellow band syndrome. No signs of yellow banding on the new 510 set! I also cannot detect any vignetting in content viewed during the daytime. I will have to wait and see whats its like in the evening when its darkest, and then run the 5% slides.

I'm happy with this set, and glad that I purchased from BB where swapping was easy. I attached a phone snapshot of the 509 vs 510 for your reference.
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I just received my 510 today to replace my 509 build suffering from yellow band syndrome. No signs of yellow banding on the new 510 set! I also cannot detect any vignetting in content viewed during the daytime. I will have to wait and see whats its like in the evening when its darkest, and then run the 5% slides.

I'm happy with this set, and glad that I purchased from BB where swapping was easy. I attached a phone snapshot of the 509 vs 510 for your reference.

Wow, that looks great. One of the best I've seen. Congrats.
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I just received my 510 today to replace my 509 build suffering from yellow band syndrome. No signs of yellow banding on the new 510 set! I also cannot detect any vignetting in content viewed during the daytime. I will have to wait and see whats its like in the evening when its darkest, and then run the 5% slides.

I'm happy with this set, and glad that I purchased from BB where swapping was easy. I attached a phone snapshot of the 509 vs 510 for your reference.
1% and 2% slides for vignetting, not 5%.
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I have to say, when I look at my own posted screenshots, I have to say I think I got a pretty darn good panel...
I agree. If it was me I would keep that panel. Enjoy.

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I just received my 510 today to replace my 509 build suffering from yellow band syndrome. No signs of yellow banding on the new 510 set! I also cannot detect any vignetting in content viewed during the daytime. I will have to wait and see whats its like in the evening when its darkest, and then run the 5% slides.

I'm happy with this set, and glad that I purchased from BB where swapping was easy. I attached a phone snapshot of the 509 vs 510 for your reference.
Honestly, I see a distinct, wide yellow band a quarter in from the right...I can even see it in the thumbnail on my 13 inch screen...
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I just received my 510 today to replace my 509 build suffering from yellow band syndrome. No signs of yellow banding on the new 510 set! I also cannot detect any vignetting in content viewed during the daytime. I will have to wait and see whats its like in the evening when its darkest, and then run the 5% slides.

I'm happy with this set, and glad that I purchased from BB where swapping was easy. I attached a phone snapshot of the 509 vs 510 for your reference.
Honestly, I see a distinct, wide yellow band a quarter in from the right...I can even see it in the thumbnail on my 13 inch screen...
Whoops... I get it now...old vs new
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Maaan... You're old panel was brutal...nice move!
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Honestly, I see a distinct, wide yellow band a quarter in from the right...I can even see it in the thumbnail on my 13 inch screen...
I see it too, BUT...that's the 509 screen on the left. The clean 510 screen is on the right. I certainly don't see anything there
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Whoops... I get it now...old vs new
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Maaan... You're old panel was brutal...nice move!
Ha. I read your first post before reading this and I was like staring at my laptop screen for a good 30 seconds trying to find the yellow band in the new tv, like it was where's waldo. I think its safe to say that the odds of getting a yellow streak on a 510 is much, much lower than on a 509 or 508, since we've got several good 510s in a row after seeing some bad 508s/509s. I wouldn't be put off by the discovery of a 510 with a yellow streak, because it seems like even if you get one bad 510, its unlikely to get another bad 510 after a swap.

I also realize that we're only going off a sample of like 4 or 5 sets, but if 4 out of 4 or 4 out of 5 510s are good, but 3 out of 5 509s are bad... thats an improvement no matter how you slice it.
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Hey guys a lot of reports of really good 3D out of this TV, I don't currently have 3-D equipment. What is the recommended 3-D Blu-ray player folks are using? Can you get streaming 3D content?
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http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...tv-er%2f193623


An article on the future of LG oled in 2016. Worth a read! Hint you may want to wait a year if you really don't need a tv right now!
i read that yesterday....full Dci color gamut.....nits going up from 500 to 800 plus and on some sets 120 frames per second for thoose complaining of Motion issues....hopefully thoose sets come sooner rather than later.
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I just received my 510 today to replace my 509 build suffering from yellow band syndrome. No signs of yellow banding on the new 510 set! I also cannot detect any vignetting in content viewed during the daytime. I will have to wait and see whats its like in the evening when its darkest, and then run the 5% slides.

I'm happy with this set, and glad that I purchased from BB where swapping was easy. I attached a phone snapshot of the 509 vs 510 for your reference.
This is a great post - thanks.

I don't believe that we have to see a report of a 510 65EF9500 showing yellow banding similar to what you 509 (and about half of all reported 508 & 509s) shows.

It seems to me as though the rumors that LG has identified and corrected the cause of the yellow banding starting with 510 builds is proving out to be true (though I'll hold off through the weekend before closing my Yellow-banding/Vignetting poll/thread ).
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in game mode i can't pick RGB or Full. Is that a limit of game mode? (this is from the PC.. on expert modes i can pick them)

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I'm hoping my replacement coming on tues is an October build.
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might be dumb question but where are you guys getting the near black slides from? I don't see them on the avchd disc unless I wasn't looking hard enough.
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might be dumb question but where are you guys getting the near black slides from? I don't see them on the avchd disc unless I wasn't looking hard enough.
Hcfr fields folder, "near black"
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i read that yesterday....full Dci color gamut.....nits going up from 500 to 800 plus and on some sets 120 frames per second for thoose complaining of Motion issues....hopefully thoose sets come sooner rather than later.
One could wait, but one still have to get past the price which we can assume will be higher then what LG are offering the current sets at plus the current discounts. So life can always be a wait and see but assume after it comes out the next best thing is not far away after that. Have to jump in at some point and if I am correct higher nits is just brighter and 120 frames requires content at that?

My eyes can only see so much, while I agree less motion issues are great I really can't complain of what I have in front of me TODAY!

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One could wait, but one still have to get past the price which we can assume will be higher then what LG are offering the current sets at plus the current discounts. So life can always be a wait and see but assume after it comes out the next best thing is not far away after that. Have to jump in at some point and if I am correct higher nits is just brighter and 120 frames requires content at that?

My eyes can only see so much, while I agree less motion issues are great I really can't complain of what I have in front of me TODAY!

Maybe higher nits would allow them to stop using display and hold.
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I'm seeing the yellow band running down your left edge. This looks like a very common defect on every OLED model since 2013. Also some slight pink tints near center. I suggest using a black&white movie with camera panning to really reveal the severity of the issues. Static images like slides don't really bring out the worst in uniformity issues - you need motion.
My standard of 'acceptable' is better than my 55EC9300 (which has more visible off-axis discoloration). This 65EF9500 is far superior to my 55EC9300 in both near-white uniformity and near-black uniformity. The classic yellow-banding would have been worse than the near-white uniformity of my 55EC9300.

I'd like to check for DSE and I know there is a YouTube video that makes a good test - does anyone have that link?
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My 65EF9500 shows no signs of yellow banding, which is the defectvI was most concerned about.

I watched Star Trek into Darkness in 3D tonight and it was so spectacular, it may be enough to get me and the family interested in 3D again.

That being said, out-of-the box, the panel shows noticable Vignetting, especially on the right side. Left side more or less acceptable, but right side loses 2" of screen at 3%, 2%, and 1%. And it is noticable on content (if you are looking for it)

The 65EF9500 is an unbelievably good television despite this least issue of Vignetting. Better than the 55EC9300, better than the Vizio P70, better than the Panasonic 65ZT60.

Even my family, who thinks I am way over the top on this whole video thing (and rightly so ), commented repeatedly that they couldn't believe how much better the picture looked and how the 3D 'made it really feel like the characters were right there in the room with us.'

I may or may not decide to go through the hassle of playing the panel lottery once or twice more, but I am sold on the 65EC9500...

That's saying something, congrats. I have yet to see a 3D flick on my eg9600. I'm excited to check one out.

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My standard of 'acceptable' is better than my 55EC9300 (which has more visible off-axis discoloration). This 65EF9500 is far superior to my 55EC9300 in both near-white uniformity and near-black uniformity. The classic yellow-banding would have been worse than the near-white uniformity of my 55EC9300.

I'd like to check for DSE and I know there is a YouTube video that makes a good test - does anyone have that link?
Found it (search for 'dirty screen' in the YouTube app.)

This screen is very clean (perfect) during the day.

I will check for DSE and Vignetting again tonight, but I am already at the point that I know 99% of consumers would be ecstatic with my panel...
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guys, 510, just set it up. Isf2, warm 1, 10 hours of white screen. Don't see the typically yellow stripe. Something is going on dead center, but not enough to bother me.

Thoughts?
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That's saying something, congrats. I have yet to see a 3D flick on my eg9600. I'm excited to check one out.
I had watched Star Trek into Darkness several times, but never in 3D (shows you how much my interest in 3D had waned ).

So wanting to check out passive 3D on a 4K OLED, I searched my Bluray collection looking for Avatar 3D and discovered STID was 3D.

Popped it in and it was beyond jaw-dropping - like watching an entirely different movie.

The studios may have already made the decision to ditch 3D in favor of HDR, but it is a pity for LG - their 4K OLEDs deliver a 3D experience that has never been delivered to consumers before.

I was fortunate enough to be one of the early testers of the Avegant Glyph, which delivers full-frame-rate full-720p 3D into each eye (through dual DLP projectors). That was an entirely different 3D experience and far better than any 3D I had experienced in a theater or on my LED/LCD. The passive 3D on the 65EF9500 was an entirely different level again beyond what the Glyph could deliver.

Truly unbelievable (and U've been one of the harshest 3D naysayers on the Forum .

I hope for LGs sake the Studios may still be considering releasing content in 3D (even if 'only' 1080p) and LG can till reverse this decision to abandon 3D in 2016. If the word gets out on how fantastic 3D is on 4K OLED it may accelerate LGs and OLEDs success.

My fear is it is too late and a done deal - if the studios have abandoned 3D in favor of HDR, the HDR train has left the station while the 3D train is being chopped up for parts and there will not be any more 3D content released.

The fact that the UHD Bluray standard supports HDR but not 3D was an early indication that this is the way things were headed.

Never imagined I'd say it, but after what I experienced last night I will truly be sad if 3D is dead and buried...
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guys, 510, just set it up. Isf2, warm 1, 10 hours of white screen. Don't see the typically yellow stripe. Something is going on dead center, but not enough to bother me.

Thoughts?
Biggest issue I see is Vignetting on the right edge worse than mine at that brightness).

I don't know if you checked pre and post your first calibration cycle, but on my 65EF9500, the changes were significant.

There is a great deal of very advanced technology in these LG WOLED TVs which means it is better not to jump to rash conclusions.

I'll be breaking in a great deal over this first week and taking my time deciding whether the small amount of Vignetting I have on my right edge is worth risking an exchange or not...
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I'm hoping my replacement coming on tues is an October build.
I ordered my 65EF9500 mid-last week from BB and they delivered it today. After reading every post on this thread (twice!), I was hoping to see a '510' on the serial number and - victory - mine is an October build.

Time to set up, calibrate, test and *pray* for no yellow stains!
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Biggest issue I see is Vignetting on the right edge worse than mine at that brightness).



I don't know if you checked pre and post your first calibration cycle, but on my 65EF9500, the changes were significant.



There is a great deal of very advanced technology in these LG WOLED TVs which means it is better not to jump to rash conclusions.



I'll be breaking in a great deal over this first week and taking my time deciding whether the small amount of Vignetting I have on my right edge is worth risking an exchange or not...

It been up for literally 20 minutes. I'm pretty happy with it so far. I was more worried about the stripe. Vignetting seems to get better over time, from what I've read.
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thats good you don't have the obvious yellow bands, but do you notice yellowing at all? even dispersed through the screen faintly?
No, the screen seems very white (at least compared to my 55EC9300).

Running Dirty Screen Test on YouTube, it is very clean during daytime viewing. Will do more testing tonight.

During the day, this TV is fantastic (perfect).

I must have screwed up the Amazon update last night.

Tried again today, was asked to update (again) and now HDR is working.

Checked out half an episode of Red Oaks and it was pretty remarkable (especially the tennis balls ). Will try again tonight.
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