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Burn-in worries on 2016 LG OLED

I was all set to buy a 2016 LG OLED55E6P until I visited Best Buy Magnolia and saw that two out of four of their OLED TVs on display had permanent burn-in. The ones with burn-in were 2015 models and the sales guy said the 2106 models are too new to know if they will also suffer from burn-in.

I called LG and was told to not leave a static image on for more than one hour. Well, that will be impossible for me since I watch NFL Redzone, other sports channels and news channels that constantly have static images.

I do not want a TV that I have to baby and be worried about but OLED clearly has the superior picture quality today. I am used to my 9G Pioneer Elite Kuro superb picture quality but it just died and I need to replace it. I hate the thought of getting an LED/LCD TV but I do not want to have to baby a TV.

Have there been any reports of permanent burn-in on 2016 LG OLED models?
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This may be a relevant thread:
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I was all set to buy a 2016 LG OLED55E6P until I visited Best Buy Magnolia and saw that two out of four of their OLED TVs on display had permanent burn-in. The ones with burn-in were 2015 models and the sales guy said the 2106 models are too new to know if they will also suffer from burn-in.

I called LG and was told to not leave a static image on for more than one hour. Well, that will be impossible for me since I watch NFL Redzone, other sports channels and news channels that constantly have static images.

I do not want a TV that I have to baby and be worried about but OLED clearly has the superior picture quality today. I am used to my 9G Pioneer Elite Kuro superb picture quality but it just died and I need to replace it. I hate the thought of getting an LED/LCD TV but I do not want to have to baby a TV.

Have there been any reports of permanent burn-in on 2016 LG OLED models?
All Best Buys OLEDs have burn in. The sales guy tried to sell me a Samsung. I went with the 65 EF9500, coiuldn't be happier. No issues with burn in.
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I was all set to buy a 2016 LG OLED55E6P until I visited Best Buy Magnolia and saw that two out of four of their OLED TVs on display had permanent burn-in. The ones with burn-in were 2015 models and the sales guy said the 2106 models are too new to know if they will also suffer from burn-in.

I called LG and was told to not leave a static image on for more than one hour. Well, that will be impossible for me since I watch NFL Redzone, other sports channels and news channels that constantly have static images.

I do not want a TV that I have to baby and be worried about but OLED clearly has the superior picture quality today. I am used to my 9G Pioneer Elite Kuro superb picture quality but it just died and I need to replace it. I hate the thought of getting an LED/LCD TV but I do not want to have to baby a TV.

Have there been any reports of permanent burn-in on 2016 LG OLED models?
I was at my local Best Buy they other day to take a look at the Vizio P65 and to see if they got any of the new LG 2016 OLED's (didn't get yet). I was comparing the P65 to the 2015 LG OLED and immediately noticed significant burn-in on the LG. Part of the LG loop has a very large "4K" in vivid red (off the top of my head, that isn't in the loop for more than 5 seconds or so). The large "4K" plus a couple adjacent letters are burned in pretty badly. I realize it's a repeating image but, I wouldn't have thought that there would be burn on on a constantly rotating video clip.
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216 hours on my set and not once have I seen any IR of any kind, let alone burn-in.

I have put 50 hours into the Dark Souls PC version with my 65E6 and I have noticed absolutely no IR of any of the HUD elements, windows start menu, or any other static element.

I am coming from a plasma so I know IR and am extremely sensitive to it, but my OLED has not even a touch of it.

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216 hours on my set and not once have I seen any IR of any kind, let alone burn-in.

I have put 50 hours into the Dark Souls PC version with my 65E6 and I have noticed absolutely no IR of any of the HUD elements, windows start menu, or any other static element.

I am coming from a plasma so I know IR and am extremely sensitive to it, but my OLED has not even a touch of it.
This.

Store loops at Best Buy are unrealistically harsh so actual consumers are nowhere near abusing their sets to the same extent as Best Buy.

I've done my fair share of abusing with my plasmas (playing 4:3 PS2 games for over 300 hours non-stop etc) and any IRs that have accumulated go away quick so I'm not even paranoid.
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I owned a Panasonic VT60 and it was a freaking magnetic for IR/burn-in. The only thing you could do comfortably was watch movies. Everything else was a huge risk. It really limited how I was able to enjoy the set. I really don't want to go down that road again. Haven't really heard any reports from actual owners though, just the floor models, which is kind of strange.
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I stand by my contention that most floor models aren't shut off properly and are instead shut down at the mains at the end of the day. This prevents the TV from running its automated compensation cycle to clear up IR presence, so the daily damage gets compounded. Coming from a ZT60, which is an even worse IR magnet than its brother probably in owing to its ridiculously thin design (for a plasma), the 3 OLEDs I have owned deal with IR like a champ.
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4500 Hours in OLED 9300
there are signs burning screen / fog of color that Comes and go

in addition processing picture provides worse image

OLED big disappointment
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OLED 9800 at 5000 hours. No signs of screen burn-in or any color fog. Far from a disappointment.
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4500 Hours in OLED 9300
there are signs burning screen / fog of color that Comes and go

in addition processing picture provides worse image

OLED big disappointment
What type of images are burning in?

Do you watch a lot of news or sports channels that have static logo or other images?

What do you mean by processing picture provides worse image?
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EG9100 600 hours no signs of IR, I am a former Panasonic plasma owner so am familiar with the IR offenders. No signs of IR at all.

Basing a purchasing decision on BB display models that dont run compensation cycles is a mistake imo. Puruse the threads here few if any IR complaints.

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What type of images are burning in?

Do you watch a lot of news or sports channels that have static logo or other images?

What do you mean by processing picture provides worse image?
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I purchased my OLED from Best Buy. I also purchased the extended, in home warranty. After 3 months I noted burn in. The Geek Squad came out and with a service remote was able to eliminate the burn in in 5 minutes. Amazing!
I purchased the service remote on EBAY so I can fix it on my own. The Geek Squad service guy said if it happens repeatedly, they would give me a new panel.
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That wasn't burn-in then. It was IR. Sounds like a faulty panel if it required service menu access. What are your viewing habits?
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Yes sir ! Although that can be gamed as well
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That wasn't burn-in then. It was IR. Sounds like a faulty panel if it required service menu access. What are your viewing habits?
What is the difference between IR and burn in?
The image was a station logo.
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Burn-in is something you can't get rid of no matter how many measures you try. IR is temporary. A station logo? Yikes. How long do you find yourself leaving the TV on this station before letting the panel compensate?
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The image was a station logo.
Burn in is permanent and can't be removed.

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Burn in is something you see on somone else's set. Ir you see on a set you own.
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I was all set to buy a 2016 LG OLED55E6P until I visited Best Buy Magnolia and saw that two out of four of their OLED TVs on display had permanent burn-in. The ones with burn-in were 2015 models and the sales guy said the 2106 models are too new to know if they will also suffer from burn-in.

I called LG and was told to not leave a static image on for more than one hour. Well, that will be impossible for me since I watch NFL Redzone, other sports channels and news channels that constantly have static images.

I do not want a TV that I have to baby and be worried about but OLED clearly has the superior picture quality today. I am used to my 9G Pioneer Elite Kuro superb picture quality but it just died and I need to replace it. I hate the thought of getting an LED/LCD TV but I do not want to have to baby a TV.

Have there been any reports of permanent burn-in on 2016 LG OLED models?
Burn in is less of an issue for OLED than plasma and how many plasma owners do you hear about that have burn-in? You also have to be able to separate burn in from image retention.
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I was at my local Best Buy they other day to take a look at the Vizio P65 and to see if they got any of the new LG 2016 OLED's (didn't get yet). I was comparing the P65 to the 2015 LG OLED and immediately noticed significant burn-in on the LG. Part of the LG loop has a very large "4K" in vivid red (off the top of my head, that isn't in the loop for more than 5 seconds or so). The large "4K" plus a couple adjacent letters are burned in pretty badly. I realize it's a repeating image but, I wouldn't have thought that there would be burn on on a constantly rotating video clip.
Since it is a rotating video clip, can you be sure that it's not just temporary IR?
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I was all set to buy a 2016 LG OLED55E6P until I visited Best Buy Magnolia and saw that two out of four of their OLED TVs on display had permanent burn-in. The ones with burn-in were 2015 models and the sales guy said the 2106 models are too new to know if they will also suffer from burn-in.

I called LG and was told to not leave a static image on for more than one hour. Well, that will be impossible for me since I watch NFL Redzone, other sports channels and news channels that constantly have static images.

I do not want a TV that I have to baby and be worried about but OLED clearly has the superior picture quality today. I am used to my 9G Pioneer Elite Kuro superb picture quality but it just died and I need to replace it. I hate the thought of getting an LED/LCD TV but I do not want to have to baby a TV.

Have there been any reports of permanent burn-in on 2016 LG OLED models?
Believe it or not most display Tv's at Best Buy are not turned off at night. The IR or Burn In you see at the store should not deter you from purchasing an OLED. I current own a Kuro 5080, 55VT60 and 65EF9500. Neither of my plasmas have burn in or IR. Each Tv was once my primary tv.

To touch on the "post count" theory! As you may notice I dont have many post but I've been on this forum for a long time. Post count shouldnt be a factor when it come to advice because there are alot of people who speak/type alot and actually don't know what they are talking about. Also, if you look for validation( Not that you are) on your purchase you'll be chasing your tail. Buy what you like and be happy!
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I think chunon was referring to posting history and the content of said posts rather than the sheer number.
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2300+ hours on 55EC9300 here. Mostly gaming. (probably pushing 80%) at this point. Destiny. ESO. Dragon age. and lately lots of Mass Effect running on a Dell Alpha console. I have yet to show any IR or burn. and I have done some of the bad things like leave things running when walking to the 7/11. hehe But I don't turn off any of the static image protections in the TV or the PS4. So yes when I come back to things the screen is very dim till I move around enough to wake up the TV to turn off the protective dimming. I have run both PC mode and regular game mode. (running with the latter of late.) I have not run into any bad image issues that could not be tied to the source images.

if you really really tried too you could probably get some IR or burning to happen. but from what I have seen with mine, you would have to work at it pretty hard to make it happen. :-)
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