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LG 2016 Oled Game Mode Settings

Just wondering what picture settings people are using for gaming on their PS4s with their 2016 LG OLEDs.

Update 2/13/2017 - Added Summary

NON-HDR Settings Summary
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PS4 pro is at all defaults.
TV:
Picture Mode = GAME
OLED = 100
Contrast = 100
Brightness = 50
Sharpness = 15 (was 20, maybe less shimmering in trees with 15)
Gamma = Low (or Medium) (Low brightens up darks corners, Medium looks better but is less playable for me in darker scenes)
Black Level = High
Dynamic contrast = Off (or Low) (Low helps brighter scenes have more contrast = less washed out, but dims darker scenes a little)
Color gamut - Wide (Locked) (would prefer Normal)
Color = 65
Color temp=0 (was W25, Warmer tones contribute to washed out look) (from C30, too blue)

Comments: Good for BF1, UC3, UC4 Non-HDR, Skyrim.


HDR Settings Summary
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PS4 pro is at all defaults.
TV:
Picture Mode = HDR GAME
OLED = 100
Contrast = 100
Brightness = 50
Gamma = Medium (locked)
Black Level = Low (High for regular PS4)
Dynamic contrast = Medium (also tried OFF with game setting brightness near or at max)
Color gamut = Normal
Color = 65
Color temp=W25 (from C30)

Used for UC4 HDR-Mode. In general I find HDR mode too dark for this game. I was never fully satisfied with these settings. Hoping my next HDR game is better in this regard.

Tips for Getting HDR Mode Working
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1) For TV, manually install HDR Game Mode update. Download from LG Website and install from USB stick. The auto update feature in the TV does not currently detect this update.
2) On TV, turn on HDMI Deep Color (under General)
3) On PS4, under Video Output Settings make sure HDR is set to Automatic (not sure what setting there is for XB1)
4) In game, turn on HDR mode (may need to restart game for game to auto detect HDR capability)

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Just finished Uncharted 3 and ended up with following:

PS4 is at all defaults.
TV:
Picture Mode = GAME
OLED = 100
Contrast = 95
Brightness = 50
Gamma = Low
Black Level = High

Primarily have been having issues with black levels / black crush. I am now playing BF1 and maybe it's the game but some areas look very washed out, so I'm back to fiddling with the settings ... I'm convinced Black Level = High is correct, but I am between Gamma Low or Medium. For now I left it at Low but knocked the brightness down to 48 or 49.
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You have to put your PS4 to RGB Limited and leave the black level to low. Putting black level high you will wash out colors and blacks.
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Please visit the inputs of HDMI connection ( in Software tv )
Search for computer input > Only then go to Picture Mode = GAME > Calibration image in the computer display card or PS4

OLED TVs Input Lag in 4k HDR (B6, C6, E6) have problem

What is worth 0.1 ms response time ?
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Seems 2016 models are not very good for gaming.

Hope 2017 models will fix this input lag issue.
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Does anyone notice any significant input lag issues with their B6 using a PS4/X1 when in game mode and HDR off?
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LG 2016 Oled Game Mode Settings

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Seems 2016 models are not very good for gaming.



Hope 2017 models will fix this input lag issue.


30-34ms is not good enough?
I don't understand people complaining about it, do you have one?

I don't feel any input lag on my E6. All my friends that played here didn't feel nothing.

People complain much without knowing the real effects.

Stop complaining about what read on internet and try from yourselves.. The only people really complaining about high input lag on oleds are the people that doesn't have one.
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Input lag with HDR is 50+ms.

Input lag without HDR + game mode is 34ms (except on B6 which is 44ms).

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You have to put your PS4 to RGB Limited and leave the black level to low. Putting black level high you will wash out colors and blacks.
Is there an advantage to using limited on the ps4 with low on the tv versus full on the ps4 with high on the tv?
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Is there an advantage to using limited on the ps4 with low on the tv versus full on the ps4 with high on the tv?

Just explained the differences in the comment you mentioned.
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Just explained the differences in the comment you mentioned.
Not exactly sure what you mean .... My current settings are ps4 full and tv high. I do not see an obvious advantage to using limited on ps4 and TV set to low. I agree that setting ps4 to limited and tv to high is wrong and causing things to look washed out. But which pair is best limited/low or full/high and why? Thanks
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Not exactly sure what you mean .... My current settings are ps4 full and tv high. I do not see an obvious advantage to using limited on ps4 and TV set to low. I agree that setting ps4 to limited and tv to high is wrong and causing things to look washed out. But which pair is best limited/low or full/high and why? Thanks


Limited and Low due the correct RGB Tracking.
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(WARNING: I've been trying to learn about these settings recently so please excuse any misunderstandings.)

I guess it boils down to does the 2016 LG oleds (E6 in my case) truly support RGB Full (0 to 255) or is it scaling it (to 16 to 235) or even worse clipping it(<16=16 and >235=235)? If the RGB Full is fully supported then the full/high combo should be best for games. Since PS4 RGB automatic clearly matches with the TV high setting it's reasonable to assume the TV fully supports it. Otherwise limited/low should be same or better (if clipping).
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I've posted the same video on another input lag thread showing the input lag playing Uncharted 4 on PS4 Pro.

LG should really take this seriously.

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I've posted the same video on another input lag thread showing the input lag playing Uncharted 4 on PS4 Pro.

LG should really take this seriously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_H2mVDRdzE

Hard to tell by a video, since input lag is all about how it feels to the end user. I am assuming it felt off?
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Just wondering what picture settings people are using for gaming on their PS4s with their 2016 LG OLEDs.
me too, I have a EG9100

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What Pheux doesn't get is like someone pointed out , the input lag is double or more when HDR is being used to play games. And since HDR gaming basically just now started people are noticing it. And it's been fixed some with firmware updates lately too. So yea in general they are not to high, BUT the freaking B6 is a nightmare because it's input lag SHIFTS and is not constant. Basically imagine a racing game , you're driving and the damn sensitivity is constantly going up and down as you try and steer....or in a shooter where you're trying to aim and it's being shifted. Uh yea try and game like that , there is no damn way. That's why such a big stink is brewing last few days about this. It's a MAJOR issue. But it seems only the B6 has that shifting input lag, the other models don't have it and their input lag is decent enough I'd say. That's why him and his friends didn't notice anything. Also were they gaming on a ps4 in HDR mode? Either way this IS an issue.

But they are aware of it now and let's hope they release some kind of fix for the B6.

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Hard to tell by a video, since input lag is all about how it feels to the end user. I am assuming it felt off?
IMO, it's playable, but it does feel off and you have to compensate for it when playing.
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(WARNING: I've been trying to learn about these settings recently so please excuse any misunderstandings.)

I guess it boils down to does the 2016 LG oleds (E6 in my case) truly support RGB Full (0 to 255) or is it scaling it (to 16 to 235) or even worse clipping it(<16=16 and >235=235)? If the RGB Full is fully supported then the full/high combo should be best for games. Since PS4 RGB automatic clearly matches with the TV high setting it's reasonable to assume the TV fully supports it. Otherwise limited/low should be same or better (if clipping).
I was testing this a few nights ago. Flipping between black level high/rgb full and black level low/rgb limited. I'm with you on if the PS4Pro recognizes that it accepts RGB Full, then thats what you should leave it, but im still torn due to the black crush, and that putting black level on high does leave a slight grey tint . I took screenshots on my ps4 pro on both settings while playing skyrim. its near identical IMO. Black level low and RGB limited does make the picture brighter.

Maybe this is something that could be fixed in an LG update? I wish someone who is very technical could explain whats happening, and what is the best solution for this.
Funny thing is, the issue only shows up in games that are non HDR PS4 Pro patched (i.e. Skyrim which gives 4k resolution, better textures). Regular PS4 games that are not patched for the PS4 Pro, PS4 Pro patched HDR games, and XBOX One games (HDR and non-HDR) work fine on black level low with no crush.
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Input lag with HDR is 50+ms.

Input lag without HDR + game mode is 34ms (except on B6 which is 44ms).

Note that 4:4:4 chroma also results in worse input lag.
The C6 is rated at 34 ms in 4:4:4:

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c6

It's actually the fastest 4:4:4 input lag TV I can find. All these other 4K TV's quoting ~20ms range 4K input lag are NOT doing it at 4:4:4.
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The C6 is rated at 34 ms in 4:4:4:

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c6

It's actually the fastest 4:4:4 input lag TV I can find. All these other 4K TV's quoting ~20ms range 4K input lag are NOT doing it at 4:4:4.
(shhh...you saw nothing )

But can the C6 do 3840x2160 4:4:4 10bit @ 50Hz?

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I was testing this a few nights ago. Flipping between black level high/rgb full and black level low/rgb limited. I'm with you on if the PS4Pro recognizes that it accepts RGB Full, then thats what you should leave it, but im still torn due to the black crush, and that putting black level on high does leave a slight grey tint . I took screenshots on my ps4 pro on both settings while playing skyrim. its near identical IMO. Black level low and RGB limited does make the picture brighter.

Maybe this is something that could be fixed in an LG update? I wish someone who is very technical could explain whats happening, and what is the best solution for this.
Funny thing is, the issue only shows up in games that are non HDR PS4 Pro patched (i.e. Skyrim which gives 4k resolution, better textures). Regular PS4 games that are not patched for the PS4 Pro, PS4 Pro patched HDR games, and XBOX One games (HDR and non-HDR) work fine on black level low with no crush.
The LG OLEDs are indeed capable of displaying 0-255 RGB without clipping or scaling. Limited/Low or Full/High are the correct settings. If you use Full/ High you may need to bump the brightness up a couple of notches to get the black level set correctly, use a calibration disc/files to make sure.

As far as the Limited/Low vs Full/High debate: If all you're doing is watching Netflix and blu-rays, then it's fine to leave it on Limited/Low. However, since this thread is about OLED Game mode settings, the best setting is Full/High. This is because games are rendered in RGB, so you want the Full dynamic range accessible, since the OLED TVs are capable of it. In reality, you may not notice much of a difference between the two.

A good explanation is here http://www.waivingentropy.com/2014/0...ettings-guide/
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I find the 2016 oleds to be the perfect gaming pc monitor.

The effective 34.1 combined refresh rate is a tad high, but even the tn panels with 1 and 2 ms refresh rates still end up at around 10-12 ms when you add input lag. Also, tn panels are incredibly ugly and have ultra bad black levels. Better contrast makes it easier to find enemies.

Also having a large ass 55c6p wall mounted helps too...
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What color temp on Game mode? Unlike the others that have Warm 2, Color Temp in Game Mode goes through very small increments, and at default are way too cool at C30. I expect something more like W20 or something. Anyone wanna chime in since not one person had mentioned it?

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What color temp on Game mode? Unlike the others that have Warm 2, Color Temp in Game Mode goes through very small increments, and at default are way too cool at C30. I expect something more like W20 or something. Anyone wanna chime in since not one person had mentioned it?
W50 is like warm 2 I think. I use w25 in game mode.
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Are you certain? I'll test it out and compare to ISF Dark.

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Does PS4 offer any calibration wizard? Xbox One has one and following its steps in Game mode resulted in a pretty good PQ on my E6.
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What color temp on Game mode? Unlike the others that have Warm 2, Color Temp in Game Mode goes through very small increments, and at default are way too cool at C30. I expect something more like W20 or something. Anyone wanna chime in since not one person had mentioned it?
28w look ok not to red, this isn't video material

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The LG OLEDs are indeed capable of displaying 0-255 RGB without clipping or scaling. Limited/Low or Full/High are the correct settings. If you use Full/ High you may need to bump the brightness up a couple of notches to get the black level set correctly, use a calibration disc/files to make sure.

As far as the Limited/Low vs Full/High debate: If all you're doing is watching Netflix and blu-rays, then it's fine to leave it on Limited/Low. However, since this thread is about OLED Game mode settings, the best setting is Full/High. This is because games are rendered in RGB, so you want the Full dynamic range accessible, since the OLED TVs are capable of it. In reality, you may not notice much of a difference between the two.

A good explanation is here http://www.waivingentropy.com/2014/0...ettings-guide/
Is there a PS4 guide?

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28w look ok not to red, this isn't video material
I want the equivalent of Warm 2 from the non game settings. Someone stated W50. Went to that and it looks fine. I didnt directly compare though. Perhaps I'll check today.

If II'm off, I much prefer to be on the warmer side. Nothing irritates me like bluish/greenish whites.

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