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This was posted by jqmn over on the calibration thread, and might be of interest here.
Which thread is that again? Now that I've got my C7 in house, I'm digging through the settings trying to understand what everything does.

edit: Nevermind, found the thread. I still don't understand the Edge Enhancer comment below, however.

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''The ‘Edge Enhancer’ setting in the Expert Picture Mode Settings does not increase sharpness; the default ‘On’ setting is a bypass function, and is therefore recommended."
Yeah... what? Is there more of an explanation to this somewhere? The LG doc doesn't say anything more. How is Enhancer=On a bypass? It sounds like just the opposite.

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hello fellow owners :-) I just purchased the B7 from BB and have been messing with the picture settings. my viewing environment is mostly dark, with very little sunlight during the day since I keep my blinds closed when watching TV. I'm finding some of the recommended dark room picture settings to be crushing my blacks. I used the ISF Expert Dark, Cinema Home and Cinema and found them all to be crushing blacks. I'm watching all different content and realize one content settings may not work for another. This TV has so many picture adjustments that its a bit overwhelming, eventually I will have it calibrated but would like to at least get some good dark picture settings that will not crush my blacks. I'm watching both HDR10 and Dolby Vision content from Netflix, Amazon and Vudu. I'm also watching some 4k Blu Rays that I bought and regular blu ray as well. Thanks to anyone who responds. I'm sure there is something in this thread but the threads are just so huge. thanks again.
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hello fellow owners :-) I just purchased the B7 from BB and have been messing with the picture settings. my viewing environment is mostly dark, with very little sunlight during the day since I keep my blinds closed when watching TV. I'm finding some of the recommended dark room picture settings to be crushing my blacks. I used the ISF Expert Dark, Cinema Home and Cinema and found them all to be crushing blacks. I'm watching all different content and realize one content settings may not work for another. This TV has so many picture adjustments that its a bit overwhelming, eventually I will have it calibrated but would like to at least get some good dark picture settings that will not crush my blacks. I'm watching both HDR10 and Dolby Vision content from Netflix, Amazon and Vudu. I'm also watching some 4k Blu Rays that I bought and regular blu ray as well. Thanks to anyone who responds. I'm sure there is something in this thread but the threads are just so huge. thanks again.
how many hours on your tv? After 4-5 hours of watching turn the tv off for around 10 min and let the tv do its thing. My b7 crushed blacks bad at first but after the first cycle brightness went up to normal.
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how many hours on your tv? After 4-5 hours of watching turn the tv off for around 10 min and let the tv do its thing. My b7 crushed blacks bad at first but after the first cycle brightness went up to normal.
I would say around 3 hours now, not really sure :-). watching espn now. what do u mean after the first cycle brightness?
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I have some Shield setup questions... feel free to point me to a better thread or I can create a new one if appropriate, but I know there are some quirks with the Shield and that some people here own one. I'm not sure how much is C7-specific either. I have a brand new Shield Pro. Its main purpose for now is feeding the TV bluray rips via Plex, so HDR is not an issue. I'm interested in some gaming via emulation or streaming from my PC too, but I'll be happy just to understand this part first.

1) Do I want the Shield set to output 1080p or 4K? I read some comments by D-Nice earlier that there are color space issues playing back Rec.709 1080p files when set to 4K output.

2) Given the choice of resolution, what color space should I be using? My ISF modes are calibrated to Rec.709, so do I want the Shield outputting that way? At 4K resolution, my choices are YCbCr 4:2:0 10-bit 2020 (recommended), 4:2:2 12-bit 2020, 4:2:2 12-bit 709, and a bunch of lower value 709 options. At 1080p, my choices are YCbCr 4:2:2 12-bit 2020 (recommended), 4:2:2 12-bit 709, 4:4:4 8-bit 709, and RGB 8-bit 709.

3) Is there a way to get the C7 to report its refresh rate? I'm using Plex's refresh rate switching option and I'd like to check that the set is receiving 24fps video correctly. My eyes have never been great at detecting frame-rate issues without a true side-by-side comparison.

Thanks for any advice you can provide.
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Can't wait to pick up Prometheus and Alien Covenant in 4k blu ray this week!
My Dad got me into being a Videophyle doing things just like that, lol. We had the old Video disk Player, remember those?? Replaced by the Laser Disk Player with 12" CD's at like 3/16" thick...lol.
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hello fellow owners :-) I just purchased the B7 from BB and have been messing with the picture settings. my viewing environment is mostly dark, with very little sunlight during the day since I keep my blinds closed when watching TV. I'm finding some of the recommended dark room picture settings to be crushing my blacks. I used the ISF Expert Dark, Cinema Home and Cinema and found them all to be crushing blacks. I'm watching all different content and realize one content settings may not work for another. This TV has so many picture adjustments that its a bit overwhelming, eventually I will have it calibrated but would like to at least get some good dark picture settings that will not crush my blacks. I'm watching both HDR10 and Dolby Vision content from Netflix, Amazon and Vudu. I'm also watching some 4k Blu Rays that I bought and regular blu ray as well. Thanks to anyone who responds. I'm sure there is something in this thread but the threads are just so huge. thanks again.
First off.. congrats on your purchase, and welcome to the club!

Did you set your "Energy Saving = OFF"? This will make marked improvement in the PQ.
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This was posted by jqmn over on the calibration thread, and might be of interest here.

"I see that LG has posted a short "Calibration Notes for 2017 LG OLED TVs" dated April..."

http://www.lg.com/us/support/product...OLED%20TVs.pdf

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''The ‘Edge Enhancer’ setting in the Expert Picture Mode Settings does not increase sharpness; the default ‘On’ setting is a bypass function, and is therefore recommended."
Wow, how insanely confusing and not obvious are these TVs?
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First off.. congrats on your purchase, and welcome to the club!

Did you set your "Energy Saving = OFF"? This will make marked improvement in the PQ.
yes I did, thanks. i'm giving the tv a break at the moment. i do hope i can find some good dark room settings that will not have black crush.
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Hey everybody first time poster but long-time lurker. Been reading this thread the last couple weeks and pulled the trigger on a 65B7P at a good price on eBay. Had the tv for a few days and just wanna say thanks to everybody on here for all their knowledge which has helped a lot! I was nervous at first but the picture is incredible… especially hdr games and 4K content. Coming from a Panasonic lcd it’s a huge upgrade. Just wanna say I just watched chasing coral in Dolby Vision on Netflix and nearly pooped my pants!! Watch the part at 25 minute if anyone is interested truly mesmerizing. Hope to be around here and learn all I can about these incredible OLED TVs.

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I would say around 3 hours now, not really sure :-). watching espn now. what do u mean after the first cycle brightness?
In the settings it will say how many hours you have. Our tv run a cycle every 4 hour after you turn it off. Trust me just keep watching your tv hour a couple more hours then turn it off and wait 10-15 min and your brightness should come up. When I got mine I had to bump the brightness up to 57 to get shadow detail. After 5 hours and turning it back on I went back down to 51 and it looked way better.
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My Dad got me into being a Videophyle doing things just like that, lol. We had the old Video disk Player, remember those?? Replaced by the Laser Disk Player with 12" CD's at like 3/16" thick...lol.
Lol we had a laser disk I believe it was a Magnavox...and a beta max!
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That's the spirit! .. but the black bars don't cause any burn in, as those pixels are not even activated to display black - hence the perfect black levels of the OLED.

You might want to watch them about leaving the TV running on a news or sports channel with static logos or banners on all the time.
It causes IR though so would still be careful.
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It causes IR though so would still be careful.
If your talking about widescreen movies...the ir is negligible and something the comp cycle will take care. I've had my e6 for a year and 75% of the movies I watch have black bars with no issues. In fact its pretty rare to see any complaints about that on here.
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In the settings it will say how many hours you have. Our tv run a cycle every 4 hour after you turn it off. Trust me just keep watching your tv hour a couple more hours then turn it off and wait 10-15 min and your brightness should come up. When I got mine I had to bump the brightness up to 57 to get shadow detail. After 5 hours and turning it back on I went back down to 51 and it looked way better.
where in the settings does it say how many hours?
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where in the settings does it say how many hours?
Tap the settings button scroll down to general , then scroll down to about this tv and its their.
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Tap the settings button scroll down to general , then scroll down to about this tv and its their.
ok it says 5 hours. i'm about to shut it off for the night. the default settings for cinema and expert isf dark both are crushing blacks. adjusting brightness and oled light helps.
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ok it says 5 hours. i'm about to shut it off for the night. the default settings for cinema and expert isf dark both are crushing blacks. adjusting brightness and oled light helps.
Their always like this new...it will improve as mentioned by Adamd.
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So after watching most of lion the witch and the wardrobe with the kids i just called LG to get my LG65C7 replaced. The left edge has way too much yellow tinting (caused by too much screen resin - also known as DSE). Its pretty distracting when your sitting to the left of the tv (which unfortunately is my side of the couch). It shows up on whites, greys and when watching sports the green of field has yellow tint on the left edge.

If it was just a bit in the top corner or bottom corner i could probably ignore it, but its a splattered from top left all the way down to bottom left. It is a shame as the rest of the screen is fine and the general uniformity is excellent.

When i showed a pic to LG, the guy immediately spotted the issue and "endorsed" the issue but said he had to pass it onto a specialist to Authorize a replacement. Hopefully as the first LG rep as "endorsed" my request they won't mess about and just give me a replacement.

Anyone else had issue with DSE on the left or right edge? Easy way to check is open the browser and goto google.com (as has white background) and just see if you has a yellowing tint on either side - about 1 inch wide.
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Is it possible to completely disable "Live TV" from the inputs section? I will never have any type of cable device connected to this set... in my previous plasma set you could completely turn this type of input, but I cannot seem to find an option on the C7.
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Has anyone else noticed that the ABL does not engage in "HDR effect" mode?


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Their always like this new...it will improve as mentioned by Adamd.
i really hope so as I want to love this tv, but so far I'm not loving the crushed blacks. I will keep watching. I'm messing with the different gamma settings, oled light and brightness which clears it up. I'm just not sure I'm getting the full potential yet as to what this TV is capable of. It's only been one day so lets see if in 2 weeks time I'm not loving it.
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In the settings it will say how many hours you have. Our tv run a cycle every 4 hour after you turn it off.
Does it do that automatically every 4 hours? I thought you had to manually turn that on in the settings each time you wanted to run it. I have a 65C7.

If it runs automatically, then it runs nearly every day on mine.

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Does it do that automatically every 4 hours? I thought you had to manually turn that on in the settings each time you wanted to run it. I have a 65C7.

If it runs automatically, then it runs nearly every day on mine.
are we talking about pixel refresher?
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Quick question, if I pause either my DVR or Roku for a short period my C7 seems to auto dim until I restart. I have energy saver off so I don't know if this is something that can be adjusted or is or the service menu only?
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I think so. I quoted someone who said 'it' runs after 4 hours of use.

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I think so. I quoted someone who said 'it' runs after 4 hours of use.
ok, not sure about that. I did set it to run after I shut off my TV. Not sure if it retains that setting, I sure hope not considering how many times I turn my tv on and off.
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So good times... My C7 was delivered Thursday. I have about 2 hours total on it. I walk in to the den this morning to find my son watching a SD movie with two big fat black bars on the side; the same movie he watched in it's entirety the night before while my wife and I were out. GRRRRRRRR . Needless to say my family was given a lecture on burn in, lol.
Family life is hard enough and adding stress over something trivial as a TV doesn't help. For the first two weeks I owned my C7, everything I watched had black bars. Now that football is getting into gear, I'm watching hours of content with static elements on the screen. I don't have any burn-in and I haven't seen any IR. I'm using mildly tweaked settings that I found here and other places on the Internet and don't use the Vivid mode. LG has built in safeguards against burn-in and IR. Let your family enjoy this fantastic TV worry free no matter what they watch. Just tell them to turn it off when they are not watching. Mainly to save electricity, but also to allow the comp cycle to run.
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Family life is hard enough and adding stress over something trivial as a TV doesn't help. For the first two weeks I owned my C7, everything I watched had black bars. Now that football is getting into gear, I'm watching hours of content with static elements on the screen. I don't have any burn-in and I haven't seen any IR. I'm using mildly tweaked settings that I found here and other places on the Internet and don't use the Vivid mode. LG has built in safeguards against burn-in and IR. Let your family enjoy this fantastic TV worry free no matter what they watch. Just tell them to turn it off when they are not watching. Mainly to save electricity, but also to allow the comp cycle to run.
can you please explain what the comp cycle is?
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can you please explain what the comp cycle is?
Have you heard that "click" yet after it's off for about 10 minutes~?

That is the comp cycle that runs after its been off and adjusts "internal settings" that improve the picture. Do a quick search and you will get detailed information on this operation.

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