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Rtings review is up for the 2017 LG OLED

Rtings review is up for the 2017 LG OLED

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c7
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"The LG B6 is 2016's entry-level OLED TV. It's been replaced by the C7, but the difference between them is very minor. The picture quality is almost identical, and the input lag is the only real advancement, although the B6 is still pretty good in that regard. Considering the big price difference, almost nobody should be buying the C7 over the B6 from last year."

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"The LG B6 is 2016's entry-level OLED TV. It's been replaced by the C7, but the difference between them is very minor. The picture quality is almost identical, and the input lag is the only real advancement, although the B6 is still pretty good in that regard. Considering the big price difference, almost nobody should be buying the C7 over the B6 from last year."
Totally Agreed! I'm glad I got my B6!
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Rtings have the C7 at 8.7 overall and B6 at 8.6 overall! Glad there wasn't a huge improvement.

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Says that the C7 can accept a 120hz source for PC gaming. That's a nice addition.

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The LG C7P OLED TV has an excellent picture quality. The infinite contrast ratio and perfect blacks make for an amazing movie experience, especially when the TV is set in a dark room. When set in a bright room, the C7 also has good picture quality since it can get bright enough to fight glare and it does a remarkable job at dealing with reflections. The very wide viewing angle and the good gray uniformity make the C7 an excellent choice for watching sports with a large group of people or if you have a wide seating area. When it comes to HDR, this TV does a superb job making HDR content shine when compared to SDR content. The perfect contrast ratio, good HDR peak brightness and large color gamut coverage make HDR content really pop.

Of which are improvements over last year's B6/C6 - if higher brightness (either because your TV is in a bright room or because the extra brightness really makes HDR content pop) is important to you - then the 2017 OLEDs are a bigger improvement for you.

Ratings (C7 vs. B6):

Movies: 9.2 vs. 9.0
Video Games: 8.9 vs. 8.5
HDR Gaming: 8.9 vs. 8.6
PC Monitor: 8.7 vs. 7.9

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Says that the C7 can accept a 120hz source for PC gaming. That's a nice addition.
True. Can't argue against that. I never got into PC gaming.......always just PlayStation or Nintendo. I hear PC gaming is way better though.
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Use their comparison tool from this link.http://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare


SDR left B6 and right C7. Strange in some windows the C7 have a lower peak brightness.





HDR left B6 and right C7


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The LG C7P OLED TV has an excellent picture quality. The infinite contrast ratio and perfect blacks make for an amazing movie experience, especially when the TV is set in a dark room. When set in a bright room, the C7 also has good picture quality since it can get bright enough to fight glare and it does a remarkable job at dealing with reflections. The very wide viewing angle and the good gray uniformity make the C7 an excellent choice for watching sports with a large group of people or if you have a wide seating area. When it comes to HDR, this TV does a superb job making HDR content shine when compared to SDR content. The perfect contrast ratio, good HDR peak brightness and large color gamut coverage make HDR content really pop.

Of which are improvements over last year's B6/C6 - if higher brightness (either because your TV is in a bright room or because the extra brightness really makes HDR content pop) is important to you - then the 2017 OLEDs are a bigger improvement for you.

Ratings (C7 vs. B6):

Movies: 9.2 vs. 9.0
Video Games: 8.9 vs. 8.5
HDR Gaming: 8.9 vs. 8.6
PC Monitor: 8.7 vs. 7.9
I watch my TV in a really dark room, so I dont care... C6 for me
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True. Can't argue against that. I never got into PC gaming.......always just PlayStation or Nintendo. I hear PC gaming is way better though.
It has it's perk.

But has a 100% PC gamer, I never played TLOU, and other games that look really great. I miss those exclusivity.
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I watch my TV in a really dark room, so I dont care... C6 for me
Good, you finally made a decision.
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Anybody know what happened to the B7?
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Anybody know what happened to the B7?
It is only available at Costco, and I believe other membership stores.
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Reviewed on Apr 13, 2017 By Daniel O'Keeffe , Ian Cumming, Eric Bousquet, Mehdi Azzabi
LG C7 OLED
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9.0HDR Movies Show Help
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The LG C7P OLED TV has an excellent picture quality. The infinite contrast ratio and perfect blacks make for an amazing movie experience, especially when the TV is set in a dark room. When set in a bright room, the C7 also has good picture quality since it can get bright enough to fight glare and it does a remarkable job at dealing with reflections. The very wide viewing angle and the good gray uniformity make the C7 an excellent choice for watching sports with a large group of people or if you have a wide seating area. When it comes to HDR, this TV does a superb job making HDR content shine when compared to SDR content. The perfect contrast ratio, good HDR peak brightness and large color gamut coverage make HDR content really pop.

Of which are improvements over last year's B6/C6 - if higher brightness (either because your TV is in a bright room or because the extra brightness really makes HDR content pop) is important to you - then the 2017 OLEDs are a bigger improvement for you.

Ratings (C7 vs. B6):

Movies: 9.2 vs. 9.0
Video Games: 8.9 vs. 8.5
HDR Gaming: 8.9 vs. 8.6
PC Monitor: 8.7 vs. 7.9
The real question is how much difference would you see if both sets were not side by side. Most would never notice the slight differences and considering the price difference, most wouldn't care. For the price difference, one can pick up the 2016 model and get him or herself an Oppo 203, Ps4 Pro, Xbox One S and still come out ahead. 2016 seems like a no brainer to me.
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The real question is how much difference would you see if both sets were not side by side. Most would never notice the slight differences and considering the price difference, most wouldn't care. For the price difference, one can pick up the 2016 model and get him or herself an Oppo 203, Ps4 Pro, Xbox One S and still come out ahead. 2016 seems like a no brainer to me.
Well, this is the conclusion of Rtings.
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The real question is how much difference would you see if both sets were not side by side. Most would never notice the slight differences and considering the price difference, most wouldn't care. For the price difference, one can pick up the 2016 model and get him or herself an Oppo 203, Ps4 Pro, Xbox One S and still come out ahead. 2016 seems like a no brainer to me.
Me too! The minimal difference does not justify that extra cost.

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Definetly the difference will be so subtle that it would be ridiculous for me to say that the 2017 Oled kills the 2016.

again just subtle diferences.
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Good, you finally made a decision.
Yeah... finally
Especially after few members posts in this forum and Rtings review, that was the final nail in the coffin..
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From Forbes/John Archer's review:

Its the extra brightness LG has unearthed for 2017 that makes the most immediate impact. Whereas last year I found LG’s OLED TVs tending to leave high dynamic range content looking a little dark and prone to over-dominant black levels, this year you get not only a much more pronounced appreciation of the difference between HDR and SDR content, but also a much more balanced HDR picture. Now the much punchier brightness peaks share screen space effortlessly with more detailed, richer-looking dark areas, with neither seeming to dominate the other.

The OLED65E7 can also resolve much more detailing in bright areas. But crucially the OLED65E7 reduces this problem sufficiently that it only seldom caught my eye during my time with the set, whereas it was a routine distraction on last year’s models.

We’re used now to OLED TVs being able to deliver near perfect black colors under pretty specific content conditions. But the way the OLED65E7 delivers much defter and more extensive control over ‘near black’ light reproduction greatly expands those conditions, so that you’re far less likely to have the picture suddenly slip into greyness, or exhibit noise and/or a lack of tonal finesse in very dark areas.

There’s no overstating how much the OLED65E7’s more stable blacks improves the viewing experience, especially in combination with the enhanced brightness. It feels like OLED has gone from a display technology that can always cause jaws to drop in specific demo situations to one which can pretty much always cause jaws to drop in real-world, every day situations too.

TVs that deliver great black levels usually deliver ultra vibrant and rich-looking colors, and this is emphatically true of the OLED65E7. In fact, thanks to the extra brightness and more consistent and controlled black levels LG has delivered on its OLED TVs this year, the OLED65E7 joins the W7 in producing colors that look far more potent and rich than any I’ve witnessed on any previous OLED generation.

In fact, the OLED65E7’s handling of the wide color ranges on Ultra HD Blu-rays at times - usually when it comes to mid-bright and dark colors - looks slightly richer than that of Samsung’s Q9F TV.

We’re not done with the OLED65E7’s strengths yet, either. Its native 4K pictures look slightly crisper and more detailed than those of last year’s models. Its upscaled pictures look much more detailed and crisp than those of last year’s OLEDs.

In fact, colors look more stable off-axis than they did on 2016’s OLED TVs.

Motion is handled more cleanly. Color noise levels are generally much less aggressive than they were on last year’s sets. And finally, in a move which comes as a huge relief after the problems LG’s OLED TVs caused for gamers last year, input lag in HDR and SDR game modes is now limited to an excellent 21ms.

The really important thing about the OLED65E7 is that its picture glories are much more wide-ranging and all-encompassing than they were on last year’s OLED sets, meaning it delivers one of the most entrancing and flat-out beautiful images I’ve ever had the good fortune to clap eyes on.
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Reviwers have to hype a little the new product ,This is normal every time a new product is released. but there isn't a dramatic difference between 2016 and 2017.
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Reviwers have to hype a little the new product ,This is normal every time a new product is released. but there isn't a dramatic difference between 2016 and 2017.
Is that your opinion or a fact/alternative fact?

John Archer has seen and evaluated the E7 (and every other TV he compares it to) for and extended period of time - have you?

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Is that your opinion or a fact/alternative fact?

John Archer has seen and evaluated the E7 (and every other TV he compares it to) for and extended period of time - have you?


It has been proven that many reviwers receive cherry picked panels.

Rting buy direcly from the store and review them ,Just like consumer reports.


If those were evaluated at an LG location then I wouldn't rely on that review.Qled is a great example.

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Says that the C7 can accept a 120hz source for PC gaming. That's a nice addition.
This also opens the door for 3rd party scalers. The Sony OLED is just too expensive for my tastes.

I would love to see a DVDO and Darbee release 2160p120 external processors!
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Is that your opinion or a fact/alternative fact?

John Archer has seen and evaluated the E7 (and every other TV he compares it to) for and extended period of time - have you?

No one is saying the 2017 oled isn't better. It is but is it worth the extra amount of money. Everyone has a different idea of what or how much difference is considered an improvement. As Rtings review concluded, no one should be getting the 2017 C7 over the 2016 B6 because the price difference does not match the difference in performance. People are free to do whatever they want with their money, some like to waste and others don't. My opinion is the 2017 isn't worth the extra cost considering the improvements.
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What is 100% sure, the difference are not HUGE at all
Most people wont notice it and it is a FACT
yes there are little improvements there and there... but most stay the same
Some would even argue that LG C6 is better because of 3D

It is the same every year... even when a new mobile comes out, and it is crap (no major improvement or even worse), still a lot of review sites will say this and that is better and how great the mobile is blah blah blah...
That is why it is good to trust only few websites, and also see the full review... real numbers are just facts
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It has been proven that many reviwers receive cherry picked panels.

Rting buy direcly from the store and review them ,Just like consumer reports.


If those were evaluated at an LG location then I wouldn't rely on that review.Qled is a great example.

John Archer is a very respected reviewer.

Sorry his review doesn't jibe with your opinions.

But, anyway...
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It has been proven that many reviwers receive cherry picked panels.

Rting buy direcly from the store and review them ,Just like consumer reports.


If those were evaluated at an LG location then I wouldn't rely on that review.Qled is a great example.
Is it possible that the E7 has a better picture than the C7?
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Will be interesting to see their review of the E7 and if it's better than the C7. Especially the claims about brightness and the near-black levels.
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