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I hope your joking, if that was the standard 65" sales would drop dramatically...
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I hope your joking, if that was the standard 65" sales would drop dramatically...

You're right, its no joke, most people sit much to far away from their screen. Do you know how close you have to sit to a 65" screen for 20/20 eyes to fully resolve a 4K image? Do some research, see how big a screen you'll need at 12' to fully resolve a 2K image, much less 4K.


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Any difference between LG's and Sony's panels regarding banding and vigneting? I know they're both LG's but maybe the selection process is different.
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You're right, its no joke, most people sit much to far away from their screen. Do you know how close you have to sit to a 65" screen for 20/20 eyes to fully resolve a 4K image? Do some research, see how big a screen you'll need at 12' to fully resolve a 2K image, much less 4K.


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Even if we sit 12' away from a 65", 4k content(especially HDR content) is still gonna look better than 1080p and be a big upgrade depending on how good the source is of course. For most people, i think that it what matters. And since he will watch mostly HD programs one could even argue not sitting very close could be a benefit.
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Hi all-

Got my 65 inch E7 set up today. While no official calibration, I've followed the settings found here and elsewhere and have a very very good picture. Still will probably go for a pro set up some time in the future.
What settings are you using? I just got the E7 as well and want to try the good settings.
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Can anyone confirm. Is the lip sync issue related to the LG soundbar or is that an issue even if using external sound bar?

Is this a known problem across all units or a few?

Finally, what is the solution?

I just bought the TV, should I return it or get LG to fix it?
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You're right, its no joke, most people sit much to far away from their screen. Do you know how close you have to sit to a 65" screen for 20/20 eyes to fully resolve a 4K image? Do some research, see how big a screen you'll need at 12' to fully resolve a 2K image, much less 4K.
Bigger is better when it comes to TV size......
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Bigger is better when it comes to TV size......
So true, but many of us are bound by space restrictions. I can't get a 75" down our staircase, which has a nasty turn. So I get the best 65" I can
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Any difference between LG's and Sony's panels regarding banding and vigneting? I know they're both LG's but maybe the selection process is different.
Screen uniformity problems have been reported with both LG and Sony panels. Sound & Vision review of the LG OLED65E7P:
https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...ra-hdtv-review

"But I did find one issue. On full dark-gray field test patterns (I used 5 percent), there were dark vertical streaks on the screen. This was troubling, but I never saw it on any real-world material. That doesn’t mean it will never show up in normal use, only that it should be rare. Was this a sample defect? I don’t think so. I’ve just begun working on a new Sony OLED for our next issue, and while I hesitate to refer to a review still in its opening stages, it had the same problem. Sony OLEDs use LG panels (but different Sony designed electronics)."

It's most disappointing. I shall have to go all-out on some modifications.
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So true, but many of us are bound by space restrictions. I can't get a 75" down our staircase, which has a nasty turn. So I get the best 65" I can
Holy crap. I was only considering whether I had room on the wall for the 75 "......I really have no idea if the thing will make it down the stairs with a sharp 90.

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Hi all, this may have been answered already and apologies if so. I'm very close to buying an E7 and I just wondered if those with much more knowledge than me could clear a question up about the Atmos support in the E7 soundbar as I’m a bit confused.

I was just told it doesn’t have Atmos by a salesman in best buy (I know, I know – but have been going so I can compare the pictures in the wild) but it clearly states it does on the LG website. Reading up it seems like it works for streaming sources, so Netflix or off a computer say but not currently from a blu ray/4k player. Is that correct?

Just threw me a little bit as then began wondering if i should get a B/C7 with a soundbar instead. It'll mostly be used for gaming, movies and series.

Thanks in advance.
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Can anyone confirm. Is the lip sync issue related to the LG soundbar or is that an issue even if using external sound bar?

Is this a known problem across all units or a few?

Finally, what is the solution?

I just bought the TV, should I return it or get LG to fix it?
I have no issues from my PS4 to TV or just the TV alone built in apps. Using the built in sound bar only.

All problems I think are user error be it improper setup on the boxes/cables.
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Hi all, this may have been answered already and apologies if so. I'm very close to buying an E7 and I just wondered if those with much more knowledge than me could clear a question up about the Atmos support in the E7 soundbar as I’m a bit confused.

I was just told it doesn’t have Atmos by a salesman in best buy (I know, I know – but have been going so I can compare the pictures in the wild) but it clearly states it does on the LG website. Reading up it seems like it works for streaming sources, so Netflix or off a computer say but not currently from a blu ray/4k player. Is that correct?

Just threw me a little bit as then began wondering if i should get a B/C7 with a soundbar instead. It'll mostly be used for gaming, movies and series.

Thanks in advance.
Streaming yes, from external sources no.
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For info--itrocks4u


I began with settings from RTINGS.com for the C7 .

Picture looks great.

I would consider professional calibration but the only in my area is Geek Squad and I would prefer another.


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Streaming yes, from external sources no.
Thanks jaysn.


Just noticed on LG's site that it says (in very small letters) this:

'Dolby Atmos playback delivered via Dolby TrueHD through Blu-ray is not currently supported, but will be enabled in 2017 LG OLED TVs with a software update.'

So looks like all eventualities will be covered in the end. Not sure how much longer I can resist jumping aboard the owners train.
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So ive been playing around with my picture settings trying to find something that improves picture noise and picture clarity and black levels in standard SDR 4K and 1080p sources ( E.g Netflix other streaming services). I have tried various picture settings suggestions from Cnet, Rtings etc most of which suggest using Picture Mode( IsF dark room/ cinema) Gamma of 2.2 and then setting the OLED light to 33 and contrast 85. Im finding in too much content there is excessive picture noise and the picture looks washed out in many instances.

I have found that just using their settings for ISF Dark Room for everything else other than their suggested gamma setting of 2.2 and actually using the default BT1886 looks far superior and you simply put the oled light back to its default of 60 to compensate for the potential of crushed blacks.

Results IMO : Better blacks and just better picture clarity overall IMO.

Here is a link where several well regarded ISF calibrators discuss correct reference gamma settings to use.

https://referencehometheater.com/201...gamma-correct/

For me i mainly watch in a dark room and seeing as how going with gamma of BT1886 or 2.4 equals better black levels and helps take advantage of an OLED displays amazing contrast at least according to my eyes it will be what I will be using going forward as now watching anything in a dark room with 2.2 looks like **** in comparison. When I get my panel professionally calibrated I will ask that it be done to BT1886 as it looks like this is becoming somewhat of a standard with newly filmed shows and non HDR 4K content

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Can I ask, how much does it usually cost (ballpark figure) to get a professional calibration done as never really considered it before?
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For info--itrocks4u


I began with settings from RTINGS.com for the C7 .

Picture looks great.

I would consider professional calibration but the only in my area is Geek Squad and I would prefer another.


Larry
Thanks Larry. I'll checkout RTINGS.com

Why would you not go with Geek Squad? Reason I'm asking is because that are the only ones available in my area and I figured they'd be my best bet.
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Hoping if anyone can help:

I have been using Western Digital My Book Live to store my downloads and watch them over the TV. They are connected via Ethernet however, located in a different corner of the house.

Previously I had 50" Samsung 1080p TV and had absolutely no problems in loading up the Media Book Live through the TV and watch my movies or TV shows. I noticed with LG E7 that's not the case. It struggles to load and for the life of me I cannot figure out why.

Also, is there a way to stop LG from upscaling 720p or 1080p to 4K?

Any ideas?
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Also, is there a way to stop LG from upscaling 720p or 1080p to 4K?
You do realize that without upscaling from either the TV or your playback device you'd be watching 1080p content at a size that fills 1/4 of the TV screen and even smaller for 720p?
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My 65E7P arrives soon and I would like to wall mount it as soon as I deem the panel a good one. I am not finding any brackets that match the TV and most of the information on here and other forums seems conflicting about which mount to use. Even LG's website is unclear. Can anyone assist?


Two more questions if I can .


- It is shipping with 2 HDMI 2.0 cables included. Will that be sufficient? I plan to hook up a 4K DirecTV box and eventually a UHD DVD player.


- Which leads to the next question, get a DVD player now or wait. I am not a movie buff, waiting causes me zero stress. I see threads on the Oppo and the LG 970, both forums lead me to believe I should wait. I would like to be able to use the Dolby features, DV and Atmos.


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Hoping if anyone can help:

I have been using Western Digital My Book Live to store my downloads and watch them over the TV. They are connected via Ethernet however, located in a different corner of the house.

Previously I had 50" Samsung 1080p TV and had absolutely no problems in loading up the Media Book Live through the TV and watch my movies or TV shows. I noticed with LG E7 that's not the case. It struggles to load and for the life of me I cannot figure out why.

Also, is there a way to stop LG from upscaling 720p or 1080p to 4K?

Any ideas?
Realized after google search that MBL doesn't like LG TVs very much. Not powerful enough. My cloud works though. Bummer.

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You do realize that without upscaling from either the TV or your playback device you'd be watching 1080p content at a size that fills 1/4 of the TV screen and even smaller for 720p?
lol - whoops! I had no idea.
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For the E7, to take advantage of Dolby and Atmos, do I need specific soundbars or any would do?

I have the old Sony Sound Bar with Wireless Subwoofer (HTCT260). I doubt that's any more useful with this TV?

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-HTCT260H...+%28HTCT260%29
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i want to mount my 65 inch e7 it should be arriving in a few days question is the height is different then your usual tv since the brackets i hear arent centered on this tv so if i would want my tv to be 31 inches off the floor what height should the bracket be
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Bigger is better when it comes to TV size......
I wanted the 75 but went with the 65E7 and I couldn't be happier. The wife called me into the family room to look at an ocean picture she was watching on Netflix. If she notices I am all good! I also have an ulterior motive. When my son leaves for college next year he gets the 50 and the 65 goes to the bedroom. Then a 75 ends up in my family room on accident
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i want to mount my 65 inch e7 it should be arriving in a few days question is the height is different then your usual tv since the brackets i hear arent centered on this tv so if i would want my tv to be 31 inches off the floor what height should the bracket be
The mounting holes are close to the bottom of the unit, so you will need to drill holes in your studs much lower than the mid-point of the screen.
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I got it im kinda happy with it just not sure if I hit a stud I got a low profile bracket I used heavy duty bolt like screws it's a old wall with lafts so my stud finder was picking up everything and anything I put 8 of this bad boys in and did a pull up on it to see if I can loosen it but it didn't budge or anything got my fingers crossed

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As I mentioned, my area (NW Florida) the only available calibration folks are Geek Squad unless I';m willing to pay for a stay by someone.

I'm not totally against geek squad but have heard some horror stories (ie--"the picture can't be improved" or "minor improvements only")

Not saying they would do a bad job, depends on who you get.

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I know you don't calibrate TV before 200 hours but can I myself change settings adjust the picture before or that too must wait??

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