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my head is spinning, tv advice please!

Sold my home to purchase another...
Sold off the 8 year old Led Vizio 55" as cant justify hanging a flat panel that is still 5+" thick in the new place.
Wanting a 65" & contemplating these but on the fence with the oled / qled just due to nearly the cost of a small car...
Really like the picture quality though & the shiny hard screen is an added bonus if that makes sense...
Sell me on a model as my head is spinning & really not up to speed with all the new stuff!
LG looks awesome to me but then again they dont ever play the same content side by side between brands.
HELP!!!!
Samsung mu8000 $1600

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...?skuId=5773800

Samsung qled QN65Q7FAMFXZA $2800

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...ustomerreviews

LG oled OLED65B7A $3000

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-65-c...?skuId=5935272
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Sold my home to purchase another...
Sold off the 8 year old Led Vizio 55" as cant justify hanging a flat panel that is still 5+" thick in the new place.
Wanting a 65" & contemplating these but on the fence with the oled / qled just due to nearly the cost of a small car...
Really like the picture quality though & the shiny hard screen is an added bonus if that makes sense...
Sell me on a model as my head is spinning & really not up to speed with all the new stuff!
LG looks awesome to me but then again they dont ever play the same content side by side between brands.
HELP!!!!
Samsung mu8000 $1600

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...?skuId=5773800

Samsung qled QN65Q7FAMFXZA $2800

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...ustomerreviews

LG oled OLED65B7A $3000

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-65-c...?skuId=5935272

Without a doubt, the LG OLED. It's so much better than those edge lit Samsung tv's.
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Haha we can't tell you what to buy. Plus you're in the oled section so everyone is going to tell you oled. Post this in the led section and everyone will say led is the best. See what I'm saying. Oh yeah by the way OLED!!!! I have one of the best plasmas ever made. I have a very nice edge lit LED and I have a brand new C7 lg oled. I don't even want to watch the other non OLED tvs anymore.
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We have LG OLED65B6P and love it. Can't comment on the others, as I've not done side by side comparisons. I would recommend OLED unless you like to watch a lot of news channels that contain static logos and graphics. If you do, turn your OLED Light setting way down when watching such channels to avoid potential burn in. Otherwise, just get an LED backlit LCD TV.
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I can't comment on those other TV's you mentioned (no experience with them), but I have owned a LG B6 OLED for 10 months now and it is the best tv I have ever owned.
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LGs high end TVs are the best in the market...Samsung has no rival that compares.
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Don't buy into anything that reads samsung qled, they are quite overpriced and dont fare well on the picture quality front except how bright they can get. Scratch that option off your list, continue your research.
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Picked up a 65C7 OLED last week and couldn't be more pleased with it. I can't wipe the smile off of my face...
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Some guys in the industry that I spoke with state that if you have any ambient light in the room / watching tv during the day, the lg c7 will suffer incomparison to the brightness of the Samsung mu8000?
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Some guys in the industry that I spoke with state that if you have any ambient light in the room / watching tv during the day, the lg c7 will suffer incomparison to the brightness of the Samsung mu8000?
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Not at all true. I have a lot of natural light in my room and the C7 is plenty bright enough. Also, the Samsung MU series is a serious step down from their previous years' LED sets.
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Some guys in the industry that I spoke with state that if you have any ambient light in the room / watching tv during the day, the lg c7 will suffer incomparison to the brightness of the Samsung mu8000?
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The Mu is the bottom of the barell, can't compare to an C7. Unless you live and watch tv in a solarium than the tv with the most brightness will be needed for that environment and that wouldn't even be the MU series.

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As others have said, this is the OLED section, so people are a bit biased here. Coming from a Vizio LED backlit, really the only concern for you is whether the OLED will be bright enough for you. Even if it can get bright enough to compensate for ambient light in your room, if you're used to having a really bright screen, even in a bright room, you might not be able to achieve that with an OLED. If you plan to watch a lot of HDR content, there is discussion about the brightness being better for those features, but you would also be dealing with the bloom of LCD due to the backlight zones. Where the OLED really beats the LCDs is in the deepness of black (the individual pixels just turn off) and as a result, the contrast, plus the viewing angle.

Preference aside, through many reviews and shootouts/overall best TV comparisons, the 2017 LG OLEDs are being ranked the highest with the Samsung QLED ranking near the top, but below all of the various LG OLEDs. That should be enough to let you know the LG is the way to go, so long as you have the money to spend. This isn't to say the LG OLEDs are without fault, and you can find plenty of complaints on these very forums, but they still provide the best picture quality available right now.
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Without a doubt, the LG OLED. It's so much better than those edge lit Samsung tv's.
I agree, as I had for a brief amount of time an mu8000 in my room and the local dimming is terrible...oled if you can do it.
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As mentioned, you're asking in an OLED section. You're going to get pro-OLED information. Ditto with the LCD areas. I'd suggest you head to Consumer Reports or Rtings, then read the owners threads for the models you narrow it down to ...and decide from there.

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Update!
Went to best buy with the wife to try & wrap my head around this & make a decision..
Seems like the guy wearing the samsung shirt will never say, "the lg oled is awesome & the better choice"
He was very knowledgable but also threw in the samsung q7 into the equation to further confuse me!
Turn-out the step-up from the mu8000 is the mu9000, I cant see a difference in picture quality between the mu9000 & the q7.
The picture quality is better on the mu9000 vs the mu8000, but would force me to hang the tv cuz I cant stand the boomerang style base...
What frustrates me is bestbuy can not stream the same content on the mu9000 & the lg oled.
On the lg oled they are only displaying deep rich colors, blacks, whites, they are not showing vibrant content like on the samsungs, makes it very hard to compare apples to apples & be clear in my head that the oled is a better performer.
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Update!
Went to best buy with the wife to try & wrap my head around this & make a decision..
Seems like the guy wearing the samsung shirt will never say, "the lg oled is awesome & the better choice"
He was very knowledgable but also threw in the samsung q7 into the equation to further confuse me!
Turn-out the step-up from the mu8000 is the mu9000, I cant see a difference in picture quality between the mu9000 & the q7.
The picture quality is better on the mu9000 vs the mu8000, but would force me to hang the tv cuz I cant stand the boomerang style base...
What frustrates me is bestbuy can not stream the same content on the mu9000 & the lg oled.
On the lg oled they are only displaying deep rich colors, blacks, whites, they are not showing vibrant content like on the samsungs, makes it very hard to compare apples to apples & be clear in my head that the oled is a better performer.
Seems like you are leaning towards Samsung. Get the Samsung QLED and if you don't like it after a few weeks of owning it, return it to BB and get an OLED. No harm no foul. Painless return process and doesn't cost you anything more to return.

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Update!
Went to best buy with the wife to try & wrap my head around this & make a decision..
Seems like the guy wearing the samsung shirt will never say, "the lg oled is awesome & the better choice"
He was very knowledgable but also threw in the samsung q7 into the equation to further confuse me!
Turn-out the step-up from the mu8000 is the mu9000, I cant see a difference in picture quality between the mu9000 & the q7.
The picture quality is better on the mu9000 vs the mu8000, but would force me to hang the tv cuz I cant stand the boomerang style base...
What frustrates me is bestbuy can not stream the same content on the mu9000 & the lg oled.
On the lg oled they are only displaying deep rich colors, blacks, whites, they are not showing vibrant content like on the samsungs, makes it very hard to compare apples to apples & be clear in my head that the oled is a better performer.
Whoever told you they can't put on the same content on the tvs to compare, they aren't telling you the whole truth. While tv's are set to display their own content, you can easily bring your own and play your fav content and compare. Whether on a usb stick /hardrive or Blu-ray Disc.

Samsung employees will always lure you and bs you to buy their products, it's their job. Good luck on your purchase.

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Some guys in the industry that I spoke with state that if you have any ambient light in the room / watching tv during the day, the lg c7 will suffer incomparison to the brightness of the Samsung mu8000?
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The brightness wars started in the last three years or so. Current OLEDs are actually brighter than just about every LED/LCD older than three years and are brighter than a good portion of LED/LCD newer than that. Let's compare C7 and MU8000 brightness tests. Scroll down to the relevant test on each of these links:
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/mu8000
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c7-oled

Unless you watch a lot of stuff with 50-100% white screen (don't know why anyone would) than the C7 is more than competitive and in some areas actually performs better.

My C6 OLED is brighter than all the older LED/LCD I own, except on those few commercials that use white title screens.
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Well......
We went to costco.....
The wife & I stared at the oled some more & surprisingly costco was streaming some media that was vibrant & bright compared to the dark rich stuff betbuy was playing, needless to say im a owner of a lg oled C7....
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We went to costco.....
The wife & I stared at the oled some more & surprisingly costco was streaming some media that was vibrant & bright compared to the dark rich stuff betbuy was playing, needless to say im a owner of a lg oled C7....
Congrats...you will no doubt enjoy it!
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