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post #181 of 509 Old 09-11-2004, 10:08 PM
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Bruzzi,

If that's the case, you have just made my day!!! I'm drooling at the very thought of getting my hands on a 50" 7UY and I just wish Panasonic would issue an official announcement. It has to be coming soon, right?
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Well,

looks like the "7UY" Models will be released first than the Announcement. :D
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Sounds good to me. Who needs an announcement anyway? I just want the friggin' panel.
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I just want the friggin' panel.
Same here.

I already have a Panny Tabletop Stand waiting for it. :D
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Same here.

I already have a Panny Tabletop Stand wainting for it. :D
oh yea...I already bought a credenza for it (not yet delivered).:D

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According to the 8-21-04 issue of "16:9 The Source FOR HDTV Information and News (no longer available on-line):

"Market's educated guess: Panasonic will launch a new 7 series commercial plasma line at CEDIA (Indianapolis, Sept. 10-12). Rumored to ship this fall, the new series will feature the usual 42- and 50- inch models, plus a new 65-incher that reportedly features a 1366X768 resolution.

All 7 series plasma feature HDMI inputs, a new video noise reduction system, a resistant to burn-in "blue pixel" substrate and half-life brightness life doubled to 60,000 hours. If these reports prove to be correct, Panasonic will have addressed some of the most vexing problem issues in an already very popular line."

Was this author just completely misinformed when he mentioned the launching of the 7 series commercial plasma line at CEDIA?
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The author knows very little about Panasonic, I guess.

The commercial series is sold through the broadcast and professional channel and certainly was not at CEDIA. Not this year, not the last two either.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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It sounds like that author might have just confused the Onyx with the 7UY. Either that or he just doesn't know what the hell he's talking about(as rogo said).
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where is this set already?

If panasonic would release this thing, then I could drop my hard-earned 5k on it and be done with it.
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cablejunk,

You're one of MANY people that is highly anticipating the release of the 7UY. I'd be willing to pay $6k or maybe even a little more just to get my hands on this panel right now! This plasma can't come out soon enough for me.
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where is this set already?

If panasonic would release this thing, then I could drop my hard-earned 5k on it and be done with it.

5-10 weeks to be available at Distributors. :(
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Wow, 10 weeks puts us into December. I REALLY hope it's availabe sooner than that. The 5 week projection sounds MUCH better.
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Bruzzi,

You initially posted the 5-10 week estimate on 8/30. Is it 5-10 weeks from that date or today? If the initial estimate is correct then it is only 3-8 weeks. :cool:
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3 weeks sounds good to me! Probably won't be the case, but it does sound good. :)
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Tidbits overheard from a little birdie: (FYI only, please do not quote)

42W7s due to hit the streets 9/24/04

50 inchers will be flown in for mid Oct, (too late to have made the boats)

ED units to have 4000:1 contrast ratio, 180:1 at 150 Lux
HDs 3000:1

10% increase in brightness

Burn in improvements: 1000 hours for 2.5 % brightness reduction, tested using B&W checkerboard pattern

HDMI 1.1 option card to be available, no retro for 6 series (sorry)
480p, 720p, 1080i, and VGA 60

6 series cards WILL fit 7 series (but NOT current DVI)

Tuner cards available, V,U, Cable, audio out optional

Wireless ethernet streaming media cards available 801.11b

Composite/component boards to be "singles" unlike the 6 stock "double".

65 incher due in December (Merry Xmas!!!) native 1366 x 768

Color Management: Primary color adjustment does not affect skin tones.

Improved Color Motion Distortion specs.

Improved slow motion Interlace to Progressive conversion.

Improved Blacks: 2048 shades of gray, lowest 0.09 candela

SDI and SDI HD input cards available for pro video users (no audio)

4X digital ZOOM at 25 different screen positions.

Multi displays of up to 4 x 4 (16 units)

More from the bird when available........T. Wiz

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Bruzzi,

You initially posted the 5-10 week estimate on 8/30. Is it 5-10 weeks from that date or today? If the initial estimate is correct then it is only 3-8 weeks. :cool:
You're right cablejunk. Didn't realize two weeks passed already. Make that 3-8 weeks.
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Love you Tech !!! :D :D :D
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Techniwizard,

You, sir, are THE MAN!!!! That's awesome stuff and I really wish I had a bird like yours chirping in my ear. :D
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It sounds the 7uy series has the same video processing capabilities as the new ONYX Series. If this new series gives me Panny blacks and Sony Clarity I will be in heaven...well at least on the next powerbuy waiting list.

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Thank you Techniwizard!!!

I'm curious about what that burn-in improvement means:

1000 hours for 2.5 % brightness reduction

Does anybody knows the numbers for the current 6UY series?
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Does anybody know if the 7 series glass etc will be used for the upcoming 40 series Fujitsu plasma?
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Thanks for the inside scoop!

When you note that "Tuner cards available", does that mean you can install an ATSC tuner card? Given the skepticism by some over the scaling capabilities of the HR 10-250, I would like the option of an ATSC tuner. Thanks.


(Impressed to see that the additions to the 6uy exceed expectations. Seems like they mimic the consumer Onyx series. When you say W7 models did you mean to say 7U, or by this are you referring to the ED models as opposed to the HD models?)
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Tuners are VHF, UHF, CABLE with or without dedicated audio out RCA jacks to feed a HT amp

W7 is the TH42PWD7UY ED

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So can I conclude that the 9/24 date does not apply to the forthcoming 42PHD7UY? If so, any word on the release date of this set?

And can I therefore conclude that NTSC tuner card available but not ATSC tuner card?

Thanks!
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"Burn in improvements: 1000 hours for 2.5 % brightness reduction"

Zounds!

Rayon, I'd guess it was at least 2x that now, probably even somewhat more.

"Wireless ethernet streaming media cards available 801.11b"

Wiz, what does this mean (aside from the typo where you meant 802.11b). Stream what from where to where?

"Improved Blacks: 2048 shades of gray, lowest 0.09 candela"

If Peter Putman measures 0.09 candelas / meter-squared, it'd be a halving of the black level as measured by him.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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Burn in improvements: 1000 hours for 2.5 % brightness reduction, tested using B&W checkerboard pattern

Thanks Tech! I know these specs aren't confirmed but very exciting none the less.

I'm a little confused on the "Burn in improvements" because brightness reduction is listed in the same line. If indeed this is their claim, do you think this means if you leave a static image on the screen for 1000 hours on end, that the brightness in that area of the panel will be reduced by 2.5%?

Or is it seperate from Burn in, in that the entire panel's brightness is reduced by 2.5% after 1000 hours of usage?

If brightness reduction were linear, that would mean a 10% reduction after only 4000 hours (gulp).

I know anything at this point is speculation, but what do you guys think?
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Ok, here is the speculation AFAIK:

No ATSC tuner, at least not in the Broadcast line up

The 2.5% burn in was after a straight 1000 hrs of a checkerboard pattern.
The "whites" were then 2.5% lower brightness than the "blacks".
Of course no one in their right mind would leave a static image up for 1000 hrs...or would they ?

Does NOT means loss of 10% brightness after 4K hrs. Half brightness is still quoted at 60K hrs. And the brightness is 10% higher than the 6 series to begin with.

The 802.11b (Rogo is right, my fumbly fingers made a typo) is a proprietary wi-fi streaming video box aimed at advertisers at this point. There will also be an slot type add in computer board acting as a self contained video source with video updating via 802.11b (possibly wireless) or web based IP for remote usage. I dunno the full details yet.

If it could be driven by a standard HTPC is a good question and would be pretty neat if it is.

Oops almost forgot, the 42HDs are due with the 50s in mid Oct. tentative of course, don't hold me to it. The 42WDs will be here first, guessing with the 37WDs as well.
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One further clarification on the "first 1000 hours." The curve used to have a fairly steep initial decline toward the 30-60,000-hour lifetime point. Apparently, the decline is now nearly flat all the way across.

It's hard to burn something in unless there is a steep part of the curve or a very consistent "effort" to burn it in.

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Great information Tech and Rogo. Thank you for your answers.

Now, all I need is to be able to see this all with my own eyes with hopefully a good price to go along with that. ;-)
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Thanks for all the information Tech and Rogo!

So where's the PWD7 preorder powerbuy? :D Count me in!
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