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http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...tGroupId=30531

No real significant changes from the 7UY, except maybe peak brightness and 1080p support.

No decrease in MSRP.

That 1/8 inch thick bezel sounds interesting.

Wonder why the model designation was changed from **PWD*UY to **PWD*UK?
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huh. was this expected this soon? does this mean the HD models will be following suit soon?
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Well... no sleep for me tonight! :D

That said, it shows (somewhat) that there really was little 'significant' change between the 7th and 8th gen panels... as many had suspected.

Perhaps as we get closer, more differences-details (feature set) will be revieled. I would also assume that other (hd, including 50 + in. models) will be announced shortly.

July... that's fast! Oooo... a new 50" model for my 50th in August! Yeah baby!

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Small bezel and 37-inch ED would make the commercial model very appealing as a bedroom TV to some of us....

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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"refined aesthetics and new features to make customization easier."

"... a sleek, elegant design with an ultra-slim bezel (1/8") and hidden touch controls"

It doesn't really call that 1/8" a 'thickness', I'm wondering if it refers to the width, though, I can't imagine it being only 1/8". but when you consider 'Hidden touch controls", what else could it mean....?

Keep your search engines tuned on Infocomm, there ought to be pics later in the day, somewhere.
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Small bezel and 37-inch ED would make the commercial model very appealing as a bedroom TV to some of us....
Good point, but you'd have a surround system there or just some auxilliary speakers, STB tuner... etc?

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Honestly right now I'm a bit disappointed. I was hoping for bigger changes in the upcoming 8uy models. But well, maybe the HD models will have more changes than the ED series?
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The 1/8 in. bezel versus the present 2 in. bezel would make the new 42 in. plasma the same width as the old 37 in. model. This would fit in my cabinet which I was planning to get only a 37 in. Good News!!!

Wonder if the old table stand can still be used?

BruZZi and Techniwizard, any more info?
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Any chance this will cause a drop in price on the 7UY sets? I already have a 42" and have been seriously considering picking up a 37" for the bedroom. If prices will drop as a result of the 8th gen coming out, I will wait a few extra weeks and pick up a 7th gen.

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Doh! Just bought the 7UY!! (50HD though)
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I noticed it does have direct input buttons on the remote, which I don't think was available in the past. If this remote will work with my PA25U I want it - the remote!

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Interesting... it seems to be the 8th-gen glass, with the 4000:1 contrast ratio, but the press release doesn't mention anything about the 50u's sub-pixel controller. It'd be interesting to put these two side-by-side to see if the sub-pixel controller actually does make a difference or is akin to the Sega Genisis' "Blast Processing". (For those who have no idea what I'm talking about... let's just say "Marketing Fluff")
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Assuming the HD model have the same bezel I'll upgrade my 42wd7uy for a 42hd8uy. My 7uy barely fits in my amoire and has maybe a cm on each side of clearance... an extra inch or two of clearance would be a nice bonus to adding HD. Then throw the 42 WD 7uy in the bedroom. I agree a 37 8uy for the bedroom would be nice but assuming the difference in price is still $20-50 then it's hard not to justify the 42 if you have the room.
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You're right on ROGO ... seems as well targeted for the bedroom as for the boardroom. I'm also wondering what happened to the SPC feature. Does the smaller bezel mean that the overall width will be less than the 7UY? I would love to think that the 50" 8UK would be less than 47" wide, for then, all my impediments to purchase would have been removed. Where can we see a picture of these units?
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i wonder why there's no change in MSRP. the 42PD50U is only $2500, so shouldn't the new the commercial model be at least dropped to that level? .... and does anybody know what this does for ETA on the 42HD version or the 50"?

also, if 2,700 is the same msrp as the current PWD .... then the warehouse price must be still somehow lower than the PD50U, right? Since places sell the PWD for like $1700 while the lowest i've seen the PD50U is $2k
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"and increases the resistance to static-image burn-in to the same level as CRT displays. "
Is this the first time this claim has been made? I recall it used to say "near crt levels", now they are saying theres no difference with a crt or plasma when it comes to burn in. Also im not too impressed with the MSRP, 2400 for a 37 ED Commercial is only $600 less then the HD Consumer, im glad i bought the hd, well worth the extra 600 in my opinion especially when you take into account the price of stand/speakers alone.
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"and increases the resistance to static-image burn-in to the same level as CRT displays. "
Is this the first time this claim has been made? I recall it used to say "near crt levels", now they are saying theres no difference with a crt or plasma when it comes to burn in. Also im not too impressed with the MSRP, 2400 for a 37 ED Commercial is only $600 less then the HD Consumer, im glad i bought the hd, well worth the extra 600 in my opinion especially when you take into account the price of stand/speakers alone.
Good point. I guess these models would finally ease any fear I have left about playing games on a plasma.
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I'm impressed that these sets take a 1080p input. Now there's really no excuse for all those new 1080p sets coming out to not accept 1080p input, especially when an EDTV can do it.

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I'm also sorta bummed that the MSRPs are loggin in at the current MSRPs for the 7UYs. Was hoping for at least a few $$ less. :(

Wonder if that means the HDs will do the same.
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With the "UK" designation, I'm thinking that this is for the U.K. (Europe) Market and not the US market which would have a "UY" designation.

So more research is needed before we come to any conclusions.

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With the "UK" designation, I'm thinking that this is for the U.K. (Europe) Market and not the US market which would have a "UY" designation.

So more research is needed before we come to any conclusions.

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Then why would the announcement be made in Las Vegas, by Panasonic Broadcast?

"Panasonic Broadcast is a unit company of Panasonic Corporation of North America."

Moreover, the released MSRP's are in dollars, not pounds or euros.

"The 42" TH-42PWD8UK and 37" TH-37PWD8UK will be available in July at suggested list prices of $2,795 and $2,395, respectively."
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Possibly for the same reason the "Press Release" was announced in January at "CES" for the current Panasonic line and went on sale in the U.K. Market first (including the PX500).

I think that if they change the designation now that this would cause mass confusion with Panasonic's Internal Parts/Service/Repair/Customer Service Controls.

Remember, I am not saying I'm right- I am trying to look at this from a logical point of view.

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Small bezel and 37-inch ED would make the commercial model very appealing as a bedroom TV to some of us....

Have you noticed how much the width had been reduced on the 1024x768 37" compared to the 7UY? I'm wondering if the 8UK will have a similar reduction. I'm looking to use it for the exact same application.
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"U" designates it's a U.S. model.

Panasonic uses "K" to designate Black bezel finish, "S" to designate Silver bezel finish. Same K and S nomenclature is used for DVD recorders/players and other equipment.
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Panasonic Plasma,

I think you are correct. If I remember correctly the U.K. (Europe) Market would have a "E" in its designation.

So the "Press Release" most likely is for the US Market.

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Exciting news, but my knee-jerk reaction was, "awe crap", since I recently bought the 7th generation... at least that was my reaction untill I saw the intro-price and also remembered that, like other new models, there will probably be a few kinks, headaches, and glitches to be worked out in the first few batches -- pointed out by consumers and avs forum techies that, over time, Panasonic will remedy and get perfected... maybe jumping in toooo soon isn't always a good thing, huh? :rolleyes:

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Prolly not, but I will do it anyway as it was all I could do to hold out for the 8uy as it is.

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Did you see the thread about the new NEC panels? If the intro price for their 42" ED is actually $800 less than the ED Panny, maybe we will see some dealin' on the Panys. Hope, hope, hope . . .
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Have you noticed how much the width had been reduced on the 1024x768 37" compared to the 7UY? I'm wondering if the 8UK will have a similar reduction. I'm looking to use it for the exact same application.
Don't know yet... We'll see soon enough.

I go back and forth on this bedroom thing.

Part of me thinks, "Get 45-50 now for the living room and kick it upstairs this winter when I can get a new 65."

Other part of me thinks, "Get something for bedroom that is cheap -- like $2K, not $5K -- because we don't watch a lot of TV upstairs."

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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