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post #241 of 265 Old 11-24-2005, 06:58 PM
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have the Xbox 360 connected to my 32" Sony Bravia via the VGA port and the sharpness is stunning. I have it set to 1:1 pixel mapping (Xbox at 1280 x 720, Bravia at "normal") so I have a small 1" border but the level of crispness is worth it. It matters what you set the resolutions to. The Xbox 360 must be set to 1280 x 720, its native res or else the scaler is invoked giving a fuzzy picture. The Bravia must be set to "normal" or its scaler will be invoked reducing sharpness.

When they match at 1:1 pixel mapping look out, the quality is amazing, razor sharp.
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have the Xbox 360 connected to my 32" Sony Bravia via the VGA port and the sharpness is stunning. I have it set to 1:1 pixel mapping (Xbox at 1280 x 720, Bravia at "normal") so I have a small 1" border but the level of crispness is worth it. It matters what you set the resolutions to. The Xbox 360 must be set to 1280 x 720, its native res or else the scaler is invoked giving a fuzzy picture. The Bravia must be set to "normal" or its scaler will be invoked reducing sharpness.

When they match at 1:1 pixel mapping look out, the quality is amazing, razor sharp.
Out of curiousity, have you done tests where you allowed the image to fill the entire screen so you can try out the scalers of both devices independently? I understand you prefer the 1x1 pixel mapping, but I am just trying to get an idea of how good the XB360's scaler is compared to those found in good HDTV's on the market.

Another thing, there is a rumor that PGR3 actually renders to a 1024x600 frame buffer instead of 1280x720. Using your 1:1 setup, you just might be able to determine if this is true or not, and if you can I'd love to hear about that too.
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have the Xbox 360 connected to my 32" Sony Bravia via the VGA port and the sharpness is stunning. I have it set to 1:1 pixel mapping (Xbox at 1280 x 720, Bravia at "normal") so I have a small 1" border but the level of crispness is worth it. It matters what you set the resolutions to. The Xbox 360 must be set to 1280 x 720, its native res or else the scaler is invoked giving a fuzzy picture. The Bravia must be set to "normal" or its scaler will be invoked reducing sharpness.

When they match at 1:1 pixel mapping look out, the quality is amazing, razor sharp.
Wouldn't this be a sure way to get burn in?
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Wouldn't this be a sure way to get burn in?
LCD's are much less susceptible to "burn in" (it's not really burn-in) than phosphor based devices. Read the Master Burn-in thread for all the info.
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Two questions...

1) I have a Panasonic 42PHD8UK. Should I get the VGA cable and not the component cable (my goal being best picture quality)? I seem to remember my display comes with a VGA input, but I've never used it or thought about it...

2) I can't find any documentation on the XBOX360's audio outputs. Does it have a digital out? I see 5.1 surround mentioned all over the xbox website, but haven't seen any mention of how I connect the 360 to my surround system.
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Two questions...

2) I can't find any documentation on the XBOX360's audio outputs. Does it have a digital out? I see 5.1 surround mentioned all over the xbox website, but haven't seen any mention of how I connect the 360 to my surround system.
The HD cable has an optical port on the back of the dongle.
You have to provide the cable.
Not sure if the VGA cable has it too.
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I would never suggest a plasma to play games on or watch anything that doesn't fit in it's native aspect ratio. Bar lines can burn-in and things like health meters and things like aiming cursor ‘s in First Person Shooter’s will burn-in in the middle of the screen also.

Plasmas are overrated, and DLP’s have voice lag also.

LCD is the only flat-panel that's safe for gaming.
Mikewarrior, have you try gaming on a plasma before and have you seen what you claim above first hand?? the reason I ask is that I usually find is 9 out of 10 people that make these type of claims about plasmas, have never tired what they are complaining about first hand.
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Have any of you hooked up an Xbox 360 to the 50" Panny 8UK, and if so, did you set the resolution to 720p or 1080i? Thanks for the help!
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Im planning to with a vga cable. The 360 supports 1360 x 768 via vga.
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Will the Panasonic TC-32LX50 do well being that Im going to be doing a lot of gaming on my Xbox 360?I would go with the Sony Bravia XBR but its a bit out my price range.

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Just to answer the last part, the VGA cable also has the optical out for audio...

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The HD cable has an optical port on the back of the dongle.
You have to provide the cable.
Not sure if the VGA cable has it too.
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I hooked my 40"bravia via vga 1360x768 which almost directly outputs to the bravia's max resolution. If you hook via component you only get 1280x720, so you lose a little resolution. The output is outstanding. There is no ghosting/trailing artifacts. Call of duty 2 is hyperrealistic and I actually get a little nausea playing it because of the realism. I have left this thing for hours on the same screen and there is absolutely no burn in. Because of the vga input and best lcd you can get, I think this would be the ideal tv for xbox 360. Even with new anti-burn in technology that plasmas have, I would worry about a 2-3grand purchase that might get screwed up. There is nothing lacking for pq on this lcd. I would have never bought an lcd in the past because the pq was horrible, but this bravia is the first time that I think its pq is equal to most plasmas.
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I was thinking that LCD's might look too bright and colorful for 360 games. Does anyone know how the Sony XBR1 looks on games that have a darker landscape? For ex. Condemned.
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....will you eventually remove the stickers from your TV and stand?
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what is that bright light on the top of the stand to the right of the tv? doesn't it distract you from the tv?
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....will you eventually remove the stickers from your TV and stand?
C'mon I am a gamer...lazy. :)
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Im looking for a 27'' LCD HDTV for around 600-700. What would you guys recommend?
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I've been trying out a bunch of different sources on a new 50PHD8UK at work, including a 360. I have noticed a weird rainbow effect going on. Not as bad as a DLP, but still there.

Has anyone else noticed this rainbow type effect?

For people who have played games on HD CRT directviews before, how do they compare on plasmas? Notice any kind of issues?
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I've had my Hitachi 42HDS52 42" UltraVision Plasma for One Month now. All i can say is amazing! I game a lot on my PC (Samsung LCDs).. this thing looks even better! I could not believe it when i hooked up my X360... Very Sharp, Bright and best of all no smearing. Only see very minor image retention (Normal with a Plasma) which goes away quickly on this set. It is not through the burn-in yet-
100Hours or so. I did have the 37 Panasonic Plasma, but I had an interesting problem with that one. Movies were very nice on it- but gaming had an issue. I would get a green smear whenever i turned left or right in Call of duty 2 (Now I know the 37" Panny is a Plasma and not LCD). I would not have expected this from the panny. I even exchanged the new HD -360 Cables for another set- Same Issue. I exchanged it for the Hitachi Plasma 42", and the issue is history. Just my 2 cents...
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I've been trying out a bunch of different sources on a new 50PHD8UK at work, including a 360. I have noticed a weird rainbow effect going on. Not as bad as a DLP, but still there.

Has anyone else noticed this rainbow type effect?

For people who have played games on HD CRT directviews before, how do they compare on plasmas? Notice any kind of issues?

I had to return my plasma because of rainbows.

The rainbows I saw were not the same as DLP (which are mulitcolored, red, blue, green), they were very quick and irritating yellow flashes, usually occuring during scenes of high contrast. There was a thread started on these boards a while back discussing this very phenomenon. You might want to run a search for it.

The only sets that I don't see rainbows on are: LCD, CRT, RP LCD and LCOS. Plasma and DLP are not an option, for me.
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I had to return my plasma because of rainbows.

The rainbows I saw were not the same as DLP (which are mulitcolored, red, blue, green), they were very quick and irritating yellow flashes, usually occuring during scenes of high contrast. There was a thread started on these boards a while back discussing this very phenomenon. You might want to run a search for it.

The only sets that I don't see rainbows on are: LCD, CRT, RP LCD and LCOS. Plasma and DLP are not an option, for me.
Good, then I know my friend and I aren't crazy :) . What did you end up getting? I'm going to try the 360 on a 60" SXRD tomorrow. I hope it goes well.
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Good, then I know my friend and I aren't crazy :) . What did you end up getting? I'm going to try the 360 on a 60" SXRD tomorrow. I hope it goes well.
sllffl,

I ended up getting an XBR 960 HD CRT from Sony.

It's only 34" but it's for my bedroom, and the PQ is spectacular.

Wonderful color uniformity, great blacks, super clear and sharp HD and DVD playback.

Could not be happier, and the 360 looks absolutely phenomenal on this set. There is some overscan issues, but I'll take some overscan issues over silk screen effect, DLP rainbows, plasma rainbows, crappy blacks, screen-door effect, poor viewing angles and lamp replacement any day of the week.

If you must buy a bigscreen, I'd go with a Sony SXRD or one of the new JVC LCOS models. Plasma is, by far, my favorite new technology but it's simply not an option with all the rainbows I see. Here's hoping we see some major improvements on the flat-panel LCD front, and that SED tech isn't too expensive.
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