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post #11401 of 11414 Old 11-21-2014, 08:18 PM
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I've just read a brief from Merck and Philips. It says that EMD (Merck paid about 8 billion dollars to get them and spent billions and billions of dollars in R&D with BAFS to get to this point) are finally ready to start production they are expected to supply Kateva, Philips, Sony, Novaled and a whole bunch of other Korean, Japanese and Chinese firms.


The most interesting thing about the brief is about Philips. Philips are getting ready to start making OLED lighting that is just as good as the sun for farming. It is expected to revolutionize the farming industry by 2030 by making BCs (closed farms) better for glowing plants than open farms and that might even solve the problem of food supply. I have been a participant in building "closed" farms with LED for quite a while now and I believe that with OLED people won't need the sun to "survive" and OLED will supplant the sun for agriculture soon enough.


Toshiba ,among others, are to build new OLED farms in the not so distance future.


http://www.science-health.com/farmin...clean-factory/


P.S I think Samsung are getting in' with Kateeva to make lighting rather than TVs. Although we might see them making TVs as well.

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Hmm, that's going to make the material expensive for TVs if there is a lot of demand for lighting.
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Hmm, that's going to make the material expensive for TVs if there is a lot of demand for lighting.

Quite to the contrary. The plan is to make OLED dirt-cheap for High Spectrum LED cost an arm and a leg to make and this is why Merck skipped on "LED" and invested into OLED. Merck believe they can make OLED material really cheap and last really long.


Merck have the biggest LCD material plant ever built (it supplies like 99 percent of all LCD production (they supply singles for LCD) and sell over 60 percent of LCD due to antitrust legislation) and the plant they have in mind for OLED will be at least thrice the size.


The best thing about Merck is that they see the bigger picture. Form the get-go they knew that OLED never was about TVs they knew that OLED was liable to change the world.


It might seem like science fiction, but Merck together with Norway are planning to develop techniques to grow plants and use Cyanobacteria (Cyanobacteria produce much of the oxygen that we breathe) to make for a limitless supply of oxygen and food on the future space ships, stations and space cities.


http://www.thelocal.no/20141121/norw...crops-in-space


P.S Merck is not directly involved with the project it's their daughter companies who are.

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Hmm, that's going to make the material expensive for TVs if there is a lot of demand for lighting.

hmmm,

tough call

watch oled display or grow pot
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Hmm, that's going to make the material expensive for TVs if there is a lot of demand for lighting.
I wouldn't loose any sleep yet.

Regardless how cheap they can make it, sunlight for farming is free. How do you beat free?

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I wouldn't loose any sleep yet.

Regardless how cheap they can make it, sunlight for farming is free. How do you beat free?
The sun light and climate are fickle and unreliable ( draughts, insects, crop-failures due to bad weather and such are the price the sunlight comes at) . "Open" farms are soon gonna be just a vestige of the past. Plus they take up a lot of space.


You can build multi-storied farms (and to get quick access to aquifers you can build these farms underground) which can grow "clean" plants throughout the year. And in the future you can even build "closed" fruit-bearing tree groves using OLEDs and use OLEDs to grow grass and fodder for the cattle. The only reason why "closed" farms haven't taken off yet is because LED has very low spectral properties (plants don't seem to like LED in fact they prefer CFL lighting to low spectral LED and they just love high spectral OLED) and it cannot substitute for sunlight and OLED can. OLED can cover 100 percent of the visible spectrum (in some arrangements) and then some more.


If you can make OLED cheap and energy efficient enough than "open" farms will die a quick death.

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Are we talking about space ship earth for the day when being outside is too hazardous? Maybe a time when all the topsoil has been moved under ground.
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It's called Elon Musk's greenhouse on Mars.
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The problems with traditional farming revolve around water and phosphate use more than anything. Both of those are increasingly scarce. Modern aquaponic farming in highrises might -- as stas says -- save the world.

And with that, I guess my self-imposed hiatus from this thread is over.
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I don't know about y'all, but I firmly believe that OLED will lend itself to much more than just a perfect TV. OLED is destined for great things and as some wise men here have noticed it might just save the world one day...

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.......And with that, I guess my self-imposed hiatus from this thread is over.
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The sun light and climate are fickle and unreliable ( draughts, insects, crop-failures due to bad weather and such are the price the sunlight comes at) . "Open" farms are soon gonna be just a vestige of the past. Plus they take up a lot of space.


You can build multi-storied farms (and to get quick access to aquifers you can build these farms underground) which can grow "clean" plants throughout the year. And in the future you can even build "closed" fruit-bearing tree groves using OLEDs and use OLEDs to grow grass and fodder for the cattle. The only reason why "closed" farms haven't taken off yet is because LED has very low spectral properties (plants don't seem to like LED in fact they prefer CFL lighting to low spectral LED and they just love high spectral OLED) and it cannot substitute for sunlight and OLED can. OLED can cover 100 percent of the visible spectrum (in some arrangements) and then some more.


If you can make OLED cheap and energy efficient enough than "open" farms will die a quick death.
And I thought I was pushing the limits by going on about the Multiverse and such stuff but....???....goodness me!!!
OLED's replacing the Sun, as far as farming is concerned anyway!!!!
You sure you haven't been partaking of that peyote you talked about previously Stas.

P.S. That's a thought. Does peyote thrive under OLED lighting Stas??

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And I thought I was pushing the limits by going on about the Multiverse and such stuff but....???....goodness me!!!
OLED's replacing the Sun, as far as farming is concerned anyway!!!!
You sure you haven't been partaking of that peyote you talked about previously Stas.

P.S. That's a thought. Does peyote thrive under OLED lighting Stas??
I'm dead serious about farms. It's a real deal. The company I work with has a 3 year backlog for building such farms around the globe (and Mid East in particular). It's a bit freaky I know.


Here's a glimpse of the not-so distance future (20 to 30 years) as far as farming concerned.


http://www.science-health.com/farmin...clean-factory/

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