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I'm late to the discussion, but I can offer this much:
1) It only makes sense that the CC function be dependant upon the source component and not the display, since the CC text gets inserted into the video signal - be that signal HDMI or component video.
2) I have a Samsung LN-T4669FX 1080p display, vintage late 2007, which has a "Caption" button on the remote. However, this button effects only what you see when watching one of the two internal broadcast tuners on the HDTV - either the NTSC tuner or the ATSC tuner. NTSC has standard CC and the button cycles between the CC1, CC2, and OFF settings. When viewing the ATSC tuner, the button cycles between the settings DTVCC1, DTVCC2, and OFF. Note that when there is a standard definition 480i subchannel broadcast over ATSC, sometimes there are both CC and DTVCC options available - and sometimes of course, there is no captioning at all in some source material.
3) I have a Toshiba HD-A30 HD-DVD player attached to the HDMI1 input. This player will in fact output any CC signal present on the source disk, and the CC function is controlled by the disk menu and cursor buttons. I have confirmed the function for HD-DVD, but not standard DVD (I don't watch standard DVD on this unit).
4) I have a TiVo HD DVR connected via HDMI2, which is a quad tuner settop box (two NTSC and two ATSC tuners paired together). This is a Series 3 TiVo with both Component and HDMI outputs - but the HDMI cable is required to enable the HDCP function which allows you to download and view copy-protected HD video over the internet broadband connection.
With this settop box, there is an INFO key on the remote which will detail the available CC options for the material currently being viewed. The available options are CC1 and CC2 for NTSC, DTVCC1 and DTVCC2 for ATSC, and sometimes both CC and DTVCC options for standard def digital subchannels over ATSC.
5) I have a PlayStation 3 connected via HDMI3, and I use it to play both standard DVD and Blu-Ray disks. Once again I seem to have access to any CC options present in the menu of the disk.
6) I have my old Panasonic RP-62 standalone player connected via Component Video to the Samsung. I use this for playing Letterboxed conventional DVDs only, for reasons unrelated to the CC funtion. (The Letterboxed disks are not scaled to fullscreen over the HDMI connection - either from the HD-DVD or PS3 players. This may be a limitation of the Samsung display - but if you set the player for 480p output and use Component Video, you CAN zoom the image to fill the screen width.) The CC function works just as before - whatever caption options are in the disk menu can be viewed.
Hope this helps someone.
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