Originally Posted by dz2k
I had it running once, activated it, and even tried a hdd clone to swap the hdd. the issue is I would say 9 of 10 times the moxi will power on but not display the moxi logo. this happens with or without an output connected (hdmi, component, composite, etc.). it constantly reboots. I'd say its in pretty bad shape.
Well, I finally broke down and got a Tivo Bolt. I don’t know what the odds were that the Moxi would go belly up at the same time that Comcast made the MPEG 4 change that would preclude its use in HD on that network, but that seems to be exactly what’s happened. I will be holding a memorial service for the old Moxi soon.
I got a 500 GB, 4K, 4 Tuner, OTA and cable Bolt with the lifetime (now called “All In”) plan on Ebay. The model I bought is currently selling for $158.00 on Amazon (without the service plan) but the Tivo Bolt Plus, with 6 tuners and a 3TB internal HD is about $500 on Amazon. The only real difference between them is the larger HD and 2 additional tuners. If you don’t need 6 tuners (and 4 is plenty for me), why pay $300- $350 more for a model with a 3TB HD? There are supposedly 8 and 12 tuner Tivos coming but 4 is plenty for me. Even the 3 tuners on the Moxi were adequate for most of my uses.
If you don’t need the two extra tuners, just get the cheaper one with the smaller, 500GB HD and upgrade the HD yourself as I am doing. Upgrading the HD is really easy on the Tivo, easier than on the Moxi. Just remove a few torx screws to remove the cover, then remove a few more screws to get at the HD (on the Tivo Bolt, the Internal HD is a 2.5 “drive), snap out the old drive an snap in the new drive. The drive many Tivo users use is a Toshiba 3TB 2.5” HD which fits in the same space as the old HD. It is plug and play, the new drive formats itself and takes right off.
Or, if you choose, you can use a 4TB or larger HD but in those cases, the drives need to be formatted on a windows system before using in the Tivo. You can even go to a 3.5” HD. Many Tivo users apparently use an external fan cooled HD enclosure for the larger HD’s, cut a small slot in the Tivo case and run a SATA cable from the Tivo to the HD enclosure.
You then have your internal HD outside the Tivo itself. There is also an Esata port for an external HD. In other words, if you already have put your int HD in an outside case and choose to go this route, you would now have TWO HD’s on the outside of the case. If you want, you can buy a Tivo HD upgrade kit from a Tivo vendor such as weaknees.com.
If you REALLY want to go wild, they will sell you an upgrade kit with a 3TB internal drive and 10TB external HD (13 TB total, 1950 HD programming hours) for a $1000 and lots of smaller configurations down to about $150. There is apparently a configuration running elsewhere at 8 TB int plus 8 TB ext (16 TB total, 2450 HD hours) if you want to really go nuts.
The service plan is $15/month (1 yr commit), $150 1 yr lump sum, and $550 for the AIP. You may be able to find a unit with either a first year service plan included on Ebay or elsewhere, or do what I did, find a unit with a discounted AIP included on Ebay.
As far as the Tivo itself goes, I have been running it 5 days now and have found it to be a terrific box, superior to my old Moxi in almost all regards (except for the service plan of course). Mine is the “Bolt” which is one of the newer models. It has MPEG 4 support (which my old Moxi and doesn’t have and hence can’t be used with the new Comcast service). I don’t believe the older Tivo units such as the Roamio Pro and earlier have the MPEG support so be sure to check if you are getting an older Tivo.
The UI on the Bolt is text based but is MUCH faster and more powerful than on the Moxi. It’s been much easier for me to manage the programs on the HD since the UI is so much faster. Locating reviewing programs to decide whether to keep for later watching or to go ahead and delete immediately often takes me only seconds where it might have taken me several minutes to do it on the Moxi. There is too much detail for me to go into here but a few nifty features are:
- Undelete –
you can easily undelete previously deleted programs if they haven’t been overwritten.
- Skip over commercials
– it really DOES work, and works well. Depending on the program you are watching, you can either press the button once to skip over the entire group of commercials or you may have to press it once to skip each individual commercial in a group. In the latter case, it’s still much easier than trying to skip them manually as I did on the Moxi.
- Quick Mode
– when viewing a recorded program, you have the option of playing it back at a slightly higher speed. You get slightly higher pitched voices and slightly compressed audio but it saves you time viewing certain programs if so inclined. I am finding it more useful than I thought it would be at first.
Besides the service plan, the ONLY other significant feature that I had on the Moxi that’s not on the Tivo is the large buffer. The Tivo’s buffer is still only 30 minutes long. I really miss the longer one that the Moxi had. If you can get by the smaller buffer and the service plan issue, and if you are looking to replace your Moxi because of the MPEG 4 change (or other reason), I think you will find the Tivo Bolt to be a worthy replacement.
Here is some more info on the Tivo and let me point on one last thing, if you are looking at the Bolt “Plus”, be careful if you want both OTA and cable. The Bolt Plus only has cable but not both as the regular Bolt does:
There is plenty more information on all of this in the Tivo threads on this forum.