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post #1 of 3 Old 03-15-2002, 03:54 PM - Thread Starter
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There's a article on how the tide of copy-protection is turning. We're all familiar with the issues but the article has a pretty good historical perspective:

One thing that was interesting in the article was that one of the anti-copy-protection people they quoted said for most consumers, it won't matter, people will accept a degraded copy for timeshifting convenience or the ability to transfer audio and video content to other devices, like portable equipment or car equipment. People will record using a mike next to a speaker to capture the material if they have to.

Of course, that kind of mindset is not representative of people who post here, who are video and audiophiles. But will the market accept HDTV or DTV if you can at least timeshift at a level from 480p on down to VHS quality? Lets say the next-to-worst case scenario (worst case would be no timeshifting) is you have to use composite and tape on a cruddy VCR. So there is no recording at all at HDTV quality (so much for recording HDTV movies on HBO to Blue-ray discs).

But it's not clear the MPAA would allow even VHS-quality taping of HDTV. They try to block VHS recording of DVDs as it is.
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That is pure specultaion I feel.

People if given a choice would not choose 480 timeshifting, given no chioce people would probably acceppt it as it is better then nothing, but to say people don't care is foolish. No one in my family or group of friends is content to watch the sd channel when the hd is aviliable...

People do care about pq and not just videophiles...

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Turning back the clock to the mid 70's as an example-
This was a time before VHS but Sony had just introduced a new top loading 3/4Umatic "HOME" VCR with stereo audio and a built in VHF/UHF tuner. I had one of these. It was a model VO1600 for those of you who know about such things. Obviously there were very few of us who owned one at that time and the community who had them did not have a WWW forum to compare and converse but we did have a telephone network and we used to record shows off TV for each other. The favorite was the Don Kirchner's rock concerts that were simulcast in stereo on the FM stations out of NYC. Usually on Sundays a few of us would get together with our huge, heavy top loading VCRs and run off copies we would share. One member of our small community was a projector op at a local theater. Along with another member who worked at a TV station in NYC would get together on Sunday mornings and record the weekly movie release using a video camera trained on the screen of the empty theater using microphones to pick up the sound. This was a real low quality recording and the only movies this theater had were porn stuff so while I did get a few, I did not find the genre as interesting to pay for the high cost of blank 3/4U media but the fact is, was that, yes people went out of their way to "pirate" movies even back then and quality was not so much an issue.
Today, I choose to archive for long term time shifting purposes the DVHS Tape because that is what we have today. I did back when 3/4U was the only thing out and I do today because DVHS is the only thing out for HDTV. I am not much of a collector of prerecorded media. This is why I can see the PVR technology of more interest to me as soon as it is out for HDTV. Program Content is most important to me but I do have my quality standards! Today, if I am to pay for blank media, I want the archive to be on HDTV with DD5.1 minimum. If I want a prerecorded media DVD is fine too.

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