I'm not sure it's just about copy protection. It seems to have a lot to do with the abolishment of the free tv model. I really don't care about recording to HIdef. I'd just be happy to record to a regular 480 dvd. I cannot believe the road blocks that are put up with people that use ota. If you are willing to pay for your tv service, the options expand exponentially. You cannot record to anything using just your tv tuner and ota. Back in the day, your vcr and television was all you needed. People are starting to push back against corporate greed. Cable and satellite fees, internet fees, cell phone fees. Where the heck does it end? I know people that are 2-3 hundred a month just to stay connected. Well, their business model is starting to blow up in their face. People will always find a way around things or they will just cut the cords. Anyways, I appreciate the responses from everybody and I think I have vented enough. I don't want to distract away from a very good thread about the PHD-VRX. Sorry if I got carried away.