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WS65711's Avatar WS65711 01:30 PM 01-16-2013
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Originally Posted by Smithdoor View Post

I have try all it not a error it skip as you play back from a recording on Antenna NOT CABLE

Dave

Smithdoor -

There appear to be numerous issues with this device. I believe mYoungforever is referring to his issue with attempting to record a channel, not your issue with attempting to tune a channel. eek.gif

Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 03:18 PM 01-16-2013
I can view the channel and will record but playing back it skips and it is only on ABC channel 30.1 on the antenna Fresno CA

Dave

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Originally Posted by WS65711 View Post

Smithdoor -

There appear to be numerous issues with this device. I believe mYoungforever is referring to his issue with attempting to record a channel, not your issue with attempting to tune a channel. eek.gif

EricDesbiens's Avatar EricDesbiens 05:35 PM 01-16-2013
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

EricDesbiens;
Are you using a HDD or a USB 'stick'?

I test it on two differents HDD. One is a 150GB formatted with PHD-VRX utility, and the other one is a 1TB formatted with PHD-VRX the first time then formatted with and external application. All formatting in ext2 and with the same behavior.

The 150 GB have a speed test of 23MB/s and the 1TB 25MB/s.
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 06:29 AM 01-17-2013
mYoungforever;
What is the physical channel number or the virtual number that shows on your CATV channel list for that channel? Go to the 'Find Channel' screen and report back (see attachment). One thing this does do and does it far above every other tuner I have seen or used is it's ability to add channels w/o doing a full scan On top of that show you the physical & virtual number at the same time. Something TiVo fails miserably along with many others.

Smithdoor;
Sounds like reception issues, I don't think it's a record issue unless that station is doling something to their PSIP data that is somehow affecting recording here. What does the signal look like from that station? Have you gone to your local reception thread and see if anyone is having any odd issue with that station?



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Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 09:22 AM 01-17-2013
It is ( 30-1 DTV KFSN-HD ) this on the antenna

Dave
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

mYoungforever;
What is the physical channel number or the virtual number that shows on your CATV channel list for that channel? Go to the 'Find Channel' screen and report back (see attachment). One thing this does do and does it far above every other tuner I have seen or used is it's ability to add channels w/o doing a full scan On top of that show you the physical & virtual number at the same time. Something TiVo fails miserably along with many others.

Smithdoor;
Sounds like reception issues, I don't think it's a record issue unless that station is doling something to their PSIP data that is somehow affecting recording here. What does the signal look like from that station? Have you gone to your local reception thread and see if anyone is having any odd issue with that station?



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JoeKustra's Avatar JoeKustra 09:26 AM 01-17-2013
Probably does not matter, but KFSN is physical and virtual 30.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KFSN-TV
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 09:43 AM 01-17-2013
That's probably the problem, both being the same number. wink.gif

Smithdoor;
Go into the menu and look at the "Find Channels" screen, enter that channel number in and report back.

Have you looked in your local reception thread here?;
http://www.avsforum.com/f/45/local-hdtv-info-and-reception

(you don't have to use the quote button, especially directly after the post you are referring to)
Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 11:16 AM 01-17-2013
Enter in 30
screen show 30-1 30-2 & 30-3

Dave

Update

This one skip during playChannel Video Aspect PSIP Short 720p 1 720p 16:9 KFSN-HD Main KFSN-TV programming / ABC
30.2 KFSN-LW Live Well Network
(Letterbox on 30.3)
30.3 480i 4:3 KFSN-AW
This will record Great and other I have check also has 1080i
Channel Video Aspect PSIP Short Name Pro1080i 24.1 1080i 16:9 KSEE-TV Main KSEE programming / NBC
24.2 480i 4:3 Weather KSEE 24 Weather Plus
24.3 LATV LATV

24.3 LATV LATV

videobruce's Avatar videobruce 12:11 PM 01-17-2013
What does it show for signal?
I don't know what to tell you.
Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 12:20 PM 01-17-2013
will change 4 to 5 bars

Dave
mYoungforever's Avatar mYoungforever 02:14 PM 01-17-2013
the box shows "166.167" if that means anything.


videobruce's Avatar videobruce 05:59 AM 01-18-2013
Smithdoor;
The problem is, I can't see what it is doing.
Does the video start to break up (pixelate) or shows horizontal lines or blocks of missing information? The term "skip" needs a better explanation.
How about some screen shots? Do you have a camera?

mYoungforever;
Now that is extremely interesting. DTV virtual channels that the system operator assigned that I assume that are the same numbers customers withe thrie STB's would show.

1. What is the highest physical channel they use? If you don't know, try your local reception thread or try calling them.
2. These are the two that don't record? Are there other channels above the highest physical channel number when you scan through the list using that "Find Channel" box?
3. Do those channel numbers show up on the tuner and in the Guide?
4. Do you have OTA also?
Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 08:20 AM 01-18-2013
It will skip a few second ahead making ever thing choppy no (pixelate or lines)

Dave
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 10:21 AM 01-18-2013
This is just on your ABC affiliate?
How about those sub-channels? How are they? Have you ever watch a program as it recorded to see what the live video looks like, then play it back?
Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 11:16 AM 01-18-2013
Yes only ABC and sub channel 30.1 & 30.2 I try both

Dave
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 11:24 AM 01-18-2013
Type of program (HD vs SD), time of day, local or network; any of that make a difference?

Have you watch while you record, then playback?
DB100's Avatar DB100 11:32 AM 01-18-2013
This problem of recordings skipping ahead every few seconds has been around since day one. It's been reported by multiple users on this thread. It usually happens on certain channels only. At one point I took a recording that was skipping, and I re-muxed it in VideoReDo. When I played this copy back on the PHD, the video was fixed (continuous) but the sound wasn't. That is, there would be gaps in the sound while the video played. When I played this re-muxed version on my old TVIX device, it played correctly. I figured the TVIX was using a different codec, one that worked better than the PHD's.
Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 12:17 PM 01-18-2013
I have try recording and watching still does the skip
The HDD is formated ext2
Do you thing formating to NTFS may stop it??

Dave
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 12:31 PM 01-18-2013
If it is only on that station, it's not a HDD issue.
I don't know what to tell you.

Again, go to your local reception forum and ask around if anyone else has had any issue with that station.
DB100's Avatar DB100 05:31 PM 01-18-2013
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Originally Posted by Smithdoor View Post

I have try recording and watching still does the skip
The HDD is formated ext2
Do you thing formating to NTFS may stop it??

No. The only thing you can do is remove the harddrive, connect it to a PC, and copy the file over. Then try different video player apps to see if one will play the file correctly. VLC or KM Player are a few examples of video players. If you are successful then you will have a method for viewing future recordings.

You need certain drivers to enable your PC to work with an ext2 formatted drive. The beginning of this thread has all the info you need.
Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 05:55 PM 01-18-2013
Thank you for all your help Videobruce DB100 and WS65711
I did find that all the brands dvr I check at some point had this too
The PHD-VRX has only this posting at this time
I think Videobruce is right (If it is only on that station, it's not a HDD issue.)

Dave
Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 06:19 PM 01-18-2013
Here are few fixes I have found this week for the PHD-VRX

1) Rebooting does not work the first time unplug all the USB and LAN and then reboot weigh till ever thing is up and plug USB and LAN back in.
2) TV is black on start up turn off TV weigh 20 sec and turn back on
3) If timeshift is not turn off Then there will be a long boot time not short the time on time shift shorter the boot time
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 09:46 PM 01-18-2013
DB100;

If it is only on one station, how could it be the HDD??
DB100's Avatar DB100 06:15 AM 01-19-2013
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

DB100;

If it is only on one station, how could it be the HDD??

I'm puzzled - where did I blame the HDD? If anything, I blamed the codec, which is software. But that's only speculation - I really have no idea what causes certain recordings to be unviewable because of skipping.

My suggestion was that if the user wants to salvage the recording, then find an alternative way to play it back. That's what I did. I re-muxed it in VideoReDo and played it back on my TVIX device. Since I doubt the user has VideoReDo and a TVIX device, perhaps a media playing app could be found that can play the recordings.

For what it's worth, I've given up on this device - too many flaws. I've switched to an HTPC and love it. I don't miss the PHD at all.
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 06:59 AM 01-19-2013
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I'm puzzled - where did I blame the HDD? If anything, I blamed the codec, which is software. But that's only speculation - I really have no idea what causes certain recordings to be unviewable because of skipping.
Because your post only made reference to the HDD & the recording. If it was all or any of what was said, why wouldn't all other recordings exhibit the same? I have read more than once about certain stations causing problems to other devices, this may be one.

But, trying it on a PC is a good suggestion.

BTW; I don't use mine at all, it just sits above my desk as a spare tuner w/ a HDD enclosed, which replaced a 205 tuner. You know the one that has the rotary heads that are unbalanced (that still works fine). biggrin.gif
They did get the tuner correct, in fact that gets 5 stars (and I almost never give anything 5 stars). wink.gif
Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 10:20 AM 01-19-2013
Today new one the (EPG) electronic program guide does not display only on one channel 24.1,24.2&24.3 (note: it is not the same channel will record right) I have over 50 channel the all work but this one and will record great.
Does this happen some time and will it come soon

Dave
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 10:33 AM 01-19-2013
Are you OTA only? No CATV?
Do you have both tuners connected if you only use OTA?

I'm not clear on your question, if you are asking about missing Guide data for a specific station, that can come and go probably due to numerous reasons.
Smithdoor's Avatar Smithdoor 10:43 AM 01-19-2013
Yes OTA only No CATV
both tuners connected OTA
The EPG is not working on channel 24 only ?
This is the first time in 10 years I have use a OTA and do not know it this just happen from time to time

Dave
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 11:33 AM 01-19-2013
Between the station and this Guide, anything can and will happen.

Ok, you then have duplicate channel maps (lists) on both tuners, correct? Have you tried recording the same program on both tuners??
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 11:38 AM 01-19-2013
On a separate subject (issue) recently brought up by EricDesbiens, I have been trying to duplicate this record problem on tuner 1 while watching a recording and have not been able to.
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