Both HDMI inputs pass through multichannel bistream so those who have HDMI compatible receiver should be all set even without coax and opt i/o.
It's the same problem with that VRX, though that is a output issue. My point is you can only feed it digital audio via HDMI. What if you have component to 'feed' it? The only audio would have to be analog stereo.
The Internet is no place for streaming video.
Yes, you can pull files and store on external HDD. But you wont be able to watch it on your PC for example because TS files created with MagicTV for HD content are encrypted.
People import these from HK.
I wasn't being rude, just stating a fact ... If we cannot get it here then why talk about it it makes no sense... I just wanted to know where to get one and I am an American not foreign... so not an insult just fact... I figured someone knew how to get it but sorry for the assumption.
Look on eBay for reliable worldwide merchant based in HK with long history and lots of positive feedback. Many selling tech goods ship these recorders.
Also, there is a menu pull down that says transfer to USB HDD in this video:
I have to do more reading if the later models retained those features...
Mtv4000 spec clearly states content is transferable:
It could be an undocumented feature as the devices seem to be aimed primarily for time shifting rather than archiving. Not mentioning something gets around the sticky problem of having a device that is legal in one country and illegal in another. Still trying to find info on Aussie users of the MTV7000 and what they are using the devices for...
According to this
you cannot rip the HDMI recordings to a hard drive for processing. I'm assuming recordings done from component can be recorded like the Hauppage and MTV4000 though and then transferred to a PC. No inputs exist for component on the mini model though they do on the full size MTV7000 and no HDMI inputs on the MTV4000. So, we are back to square one at this point...
Why would the files be encrypted? I'm wondering if PVRExplorer could read the files as it does with some Bell/Dish receivers. The files are not encrypted and can be viewed or archived. The device is moot if you already have a PVR or the files cannot be saved from the hard drive. I thought that is the whole point of using such a recorder, that you are going to archive content. Otherwise, I already have a PVR I can't archive the programming from. Have you tried to recover the programs? What process did you use? What programs? Is there a Chinese user group for the device? I think there is one for the Australian/NZ model without the HDMI inputs. Means I have to do more reading...
Have been using this recorder for a while and most of your questions has been answered in this thread as well as on another here
All files from Mini can be archived on separate hard drive, thumb drive or whatever you can plug to built in USB port on the back of the recorder. You can also have external drive connected at all times and use it as additional storage for your recordings and playback. But I think your point of using recorder is to have freedom to playback HD recordings on any other device incuding PC. And here where your freedom ends because in order to playback archived HD recordings you have to use MINI the one you used for recording or another within same LAN network (MINI has full streaming capability). This does not apply to SD recordings where TS files created by Mini are not encrypted. You say you already have PVR, is it HD recorder capable of recording through HDMI? I also wonder what do you mean by asking about "recovering programs". There is nothing that needs to be recovered, you simply select previously recorder program from internal or external drive and play it back. The recorder also works as typical timeshifting device so I do not miss a second of favorite program if I get interrupted while watching.
There is a NZ forum for users of similar model MTV3700 ou might want to check.
There is also short website about someone hacking MTV3600 model:
This may be harsh but IMHO this MagicTV box is pretty worthless in the US market. It is a DVR created for a different region of the planet. In the US it is not a DVR. It does not have a serviceable US tuner or guide. All you can do is spool recordings by first manually programming the MagicTV box to record a time slot then manually programming your STB to switch channels at the appropriate time (assuming it can do that) -- esdwa must have a strange definition of the word "convenience" that includes lots of manual labor and the joy of constant attention to your scheduling. Then there is the very basic issues of how to get one and the cost -- I believe esdwa told me in a PM it was ~$500; for that you get a "grey-market" box with no warranty and no avenue for repair and probably no recourse if you get ripped off. For that money you could buy a TiVo/lifetime or put together a HTPC with WMC and a cable card tuner -- no "subscriptions", US tuners, real DVR's. And in the case of a HTPC/WMC you can buy as many disks as you want to hang off it or on the network to do the same kind of archiving of protected content.
This thread was already pretty much dead. I think it is worth letting it die again.
- kelson h
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You assume that everyone who wants to put his hands on HD recording has to become PC gear maniac, meaning he or she will put together an HTPC with WMC, lease a cable card and use it just to record and archive hours of programming which becomes worthless if not shared among others. You admit the DRM is tough to beat meaning that you must be using 3rd party software to rip the recording to make them available for sharing. You bring up some Hauppage way of recording HD which by the way is not a standalone recorder but just external capture card which needs - again a PC to run. Any by the way. cheapest TiVo box cost $150 plus $500 where you pay for non-transferable lifetime service. And if you want to protect your equipment to ensure you will get covered with replacement when it craps out , you have to pay additional fee.
When I compare setting up timer recording with mini with simple one-click reminder on my cable box for the show I want to automatically tune at desired time with your HTPC which requires updates, booting time and periodical maintenance, I choose standalone recorder like mini. You turn it on like regular VCR, you can timeshift and pause live broadcast while you watching and you can record anything you want whenever you want. It's not a brainer, not even for a boy like you. So do not make hard for the others something that is not , especially when you did not even had a chance to use it. I guess your "special" AVS membership comes from your bitter and denying personality which by the way with the way you try to criticize the subject I find childish as much as amusing.
2) Cable card
Back to square one for recording things I want to watch over again unless I want to get a whole house PVR from my satellite TV or cable provider. The new units allow recordings from multiple channels at the same time with playback on multiple devices or home units (up to 4 simultaneously). Not what I want though since I have to pay forever for this system. I can understand where you are coming from for simplification as you don't archive. That's fine though. There are lots of things that I recorded over the years that were never released on DVD/Blu Ray or ran once and were never repeated. In an instance like that, I'm glad I DID make the recordings long ago. But many of those recordings were on tape and are starting to deteriorate. I have to archive them before they are lost forever.
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[...] There are lots of things that I recorded over the years that were never released on DVD/Blu Ray or ran once and were never repeated. In an instance like that, I'm glad I DID make the recordings long ago. But many of those recordings were on tape and are starting to deteriorate. I have to archive them before they are lost forever.
If these are recorded on tapes, look for standalone DVD recorders, these are still available in a price range of $100. Some people buy VHS/DVD combos for PC-free tape collection transfer to DVD. No need for HD recorder in such case. Good luck.
You've presented an interesting product although one not practical for most US viewers.
I downloaded a manual (for the MTV3700TD-NZ) from New Zealand. A significant problem (correct me if I'm wrong) is that, like a TiVo or Sony DHG used without a CableCARD, it is not possible to add titles to manual recordings. Doesn't this limitation make a confusing mess of what soon would become a long list of recordings?
Even if a version of Magic TV was made compliant with US HDCP laws and was legally sold in the US for around $500 its inability to add titles to manual recordings would be a deal killer for me. How do you deal with that limitation?
If a version of Magic TV was 'street legal' for the US I'd be interested.
I've got a couple of S3 TiVos with Lifetime service which are now close to useless because in order to use them with local Comcast Cable, Comcast would charge $9.85 monthly for each (an $8.75 Additional Outlet fee + $1.10 for a 2nd CC) which just isn't worth it!
OK; I downloaded the MTV7000D manual from Hong Kong. It's 46 pages long and I'm apparently ignorant; where is the entry about renaming manual recordings?
Indeed this manual is missing "Rename programme" option which should be listed on page 54 among other available options listed in table on said page. I use this option all the time.
my basic need for this recording device is to record my laparoscopic procedures(i am a surgeon) which come from my scope unit as HDMI output. i don't think the output will be encrypted and the output is 720p. Can i record with MTV and edit it by transferring to my PC. Because the HDMI output will not be encrypted....