Originally Posted by TonyB1966
I appreciate your thoughts, thank you.
Maybe CM felt that this flagship DVR+ didn't need their best tuner. By most accounts / articles, it's considered pricey at $250. I didn't and don't feel that way though. As I said in the DVR+ thread, using HDMI 1.2 and USB 2.0 seems to indicate to me that there was a concerted effort to keep costs down; knowing they might get some grief regarding pricing. For a unit just released for sale months ago, the use of those dated standards (HDMI 1.2 has been around 8+ years and USB 2.0 over a decade) might explain the tuner of choice too. I'm not up enough on tech at the moment, but I wonder how many 2014 released gadgets (TV's, AVR's, DVD players, etc) have HDMI 1.2 and USB 2.0. I would guess very few to none.
That all said, the use of those older standards doesn't seem to compromise the intended functionality of the DVR+, so a smart move on CM's part, with the initial experimentation of sorts (first DVR offering). I'm simply stating that this logical mentality, if consistent, might also apply to tuner selection...
I have not experience with the CM-7000, but from what you share and others, it is highly regarded for its tuner.
I guess it's not exactly popular and / or easy to be swapping tuners in these devices?
I don't own a DVR+ (and I do have some issues with it) but I agree that $250 isn't out of line for a 2-tuner DVR with a 14-day EPG, since there are no monthly fees. Even if CM someday dumps the guide in favor of a new DVR model (as they did with their CM-7400), that should still be a couple of years down the road.
I also don't understand why some folks get so hung up on using the "latest and greatest" standards. It's not as if you can't plug a USB 3.0 HDD in, nor as if USB 2.0 or HDMI 1.2 can't handle the workload. I'll fault CM for not using eSATA or USB 3.0 when they release a 10-tuner model
As for swapping tuners, unfortunately these days tuners are all surface-mount chips and every model has its own unique pinout, so it's not really possible. I've long maintained that someone should market a DVR that can use network-based tuners (like Silicon Dust's HD HomeRun models), so you could have as many or as few as you need, so multiple DVRs could share tuners, and so customers would have a way around any inadequate built-in tuners. But (aside from HTPCs) I'm still waiting for that to happen.