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post #4681 of 4731 Old 04-28-2016, 09:03 AM
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Just wanted to follow up on my last post. This is JUST about STBII CATV setup.

I finally got the remaining stations on on my STBII (w/o 3/4 switch). As i suspected all the important stations are above the 400 channel limit of the IView. I decided to get the SiliconDust HD prime, which shows all the QAM channel info. I have to say that the Silicon dust box was great..kudos to them, it setup perfect.

But i still wanted to get the IView working. Once i had the correct channel info, i deleted all the channels, entered the channel info manually and all the channels showed up correctly. I was going to buy 2 IViews anyhow, but when it couldn't locate the channels above the 400 limit, after searching for...and not finding QAM channel info for Cablevision i decided to add my 2nd box as the Silicon dust HD Prime.

If you are just looking for Cablevision of Long Island
QAM CHANNELS Here they are:

(Also...please go to FCC website search proposal 16-42 or Unlock The Box to make public comment on the proposal to allow 3rd party navigation and get rid of your cable box lease!)

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This list is as of 4-2016.
For Optimum/Cablevision of Woodbury.
Suffolk and Nassau county.

It most likely will NOT work for Queens, Bronx or NYC.

The CHANNEL NUMBER IS WHAT YOU NEED
I included the program numerical data on somechannels, but it's not really needed for the
IView. Just add the channel number, the rest will take care of itself.

CHANNEL 2
256.2 METV PROGRAM 3.0
256.2 METV PROGRAM 1703.0

CHANNEL 13
SPANISH
GUIDE
BOOKTV

CHANNEL 13
COZI
NEWS


CHANNEL 25
DECADES
13 KIDS
V-ME
WCBS-HD
13WNET

CHANNEL 30
HEWS12

CHANNEL 31
VARIOUS STATIONS - MOSTLY JUNK

CHANNEL 77
NEWS12HD

CHANNEL 78
256.78 COZI PROGRAM 109:2.2
256.72 MOVIES! PROGRAM 113:5.2
256.78 WNBC PROGRAM 704:4.1
256.78 WNYW PROGRAM 705:5.1

CHANNEL 79
256.79 BUZZR PROGRAM 109:9.3
256.79 THISTV PROGRAM 111:11.3
256.79 ANTENNATV PROGRAM 114:11.2
256.79 WWORTV PROGRAM 709:9.1
256.79 WPIXTV PROGRAM 711:11.1


CHANNEL 80

LINY
NYLIE

CHANNEL 81
ION
WMBC
TELEX

CHANNEL 83
2.0
256.83 LAFF PROGRAM 108:7.3
256.83 WORLD PROGRAM 132:21.3
256.83 21CREATE PROGRAM 133:21.2
256.83 WABC-HD PROGRAM 707:7.1
256.83 WLIW21-HD PROGRAM 721:21.1
256.83 LIVWELL PROGRAM 729:7.2


CHANNEL 84
2.0 THRU 21.0 (LOW QUALITY BROADCAST STATIONS)



I did NOT include the shopping channels, most Spanish channels, cspan type channels, etc. The channel list is the MAIN channels.

Of particular interest is channel 89 which has all the broadcast stations in one channel but
low quality. Not sure why they did that. But all the channels exist in HD elswhere in the channels I have listed.

While the HD PRime and IView cost me about $150 the 4 cable boxes were costing me $40 a month. Gona be a few months before breaking even. But it's worth it to get rid of cable boxes!

There's tons more i could get into, but it's beyond the scope of this post. The important
thing to know is, I returned 4 cable boxes costing $40 a month and canceled my family basic and only kept broadcast basic. I substituted all this with. Streaming website channels, Kodi and OTA antenna and kept ONLY basic broadcast. My cable bill (which includes my internet) went from about $160 a month to $50. I have more programming to watch then I ever had. And I am flying completely cable box free!

Thanks to everyone for all the great info. I hope this info also helps out someone.
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(Also...please go to FCC website search proposal 16-42 or Unlock The Box to make public comment on the proposal to allow 3rd party navigation and get rid of your cable box lease!)
Here's the link: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/hotdocket/list
It's the top one listed, with over 60 thousand comments so far.
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No; the latest firmware for those units was V3. Actually V1 through V3 are all still available on iView's Web page. All three versions are pretty much the same except for how they deal with QAM (cable, FiOS, etc.) signals.Is there a specific problem you're trying to fix?
The ClearQAM onscreen channel information. On my downstars TV, hooked directly to the line, I'll get "normal" channel numbers like 12-3, but on the iView It'll list as 110-75. Also, on my downstairs TV, it will show the station ID, (such as MeTV), but the iView doesn't. Obviously the information is being provided by the cable system, but the iView doesn't recognize it. It works fine on OTA mode, but not in cable mode. Also, on antenna mode, I seem to have an option for "powered antenna", but when I turn it to "on", it immediatly goes to "off". What's the purpose of this if it doesn't work?
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Download all three firmware versions V1-V3 from iView's web site. (Don't download either of the V5 versions; those are for a different iView "generation.") Update your iView with each one in turn and rescan your cable channels.

Sounds like you're on V1 now. V2 and/or V3 should give you the correct "display" channel numbers, but they probably won't find all the channels you have now with V1. You may have to choose whether you prefer more channels or correctly-named ones.


The "Antenna power" option is supposed to send 5 volts of electricity to the RF input. For most of us that's not terribly useful, but there may be a few RF amps and/or amplified antennas that can use it for power. Usually these types of amps have a "power injector" that sends power up the cable, but if they happen to run on 5 volts, you can use the iView's antenna power instead of the power injector.

I'm guessing if the RF input is a DC short (likely the case if you're not using an amp), the antenna power just shuts itself off to protect the iView's power supply.
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I'm not even sure I'm on V1. My firmware version was released in 2014.
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You can check your iView's firmware version in the menu under Settings / Information. You should see "SW version" followed by a date (in year, month, day order) and a version number.

All firmware versions (v1-v3) for the 3500's with the channel 3/4 switch were released in 2014. I believe they first appeared in March, but iView didn't put them on their web site until September or so.
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I did that, and here are my results:

Model: IVIEW-3500STBI
SW Version: 20140522 V1
HW Version: ATSC7816XD-02-Z00
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Good; you are on V1 then.

For convenience, here are the links to V2 and V3 firmware, from iView's web site.

Try rescanning your cable channels after installing one of those on your iView. If the one you try doesn't work well, try the other; if neither works well and you want to switch back, here's the link to the V1 firmware that your box came with.

Note to other readers: The firmware links above are for an iView 3500STBII with a channel 3/4 switch in back. Do not use them on any other iView.

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Good; you are on V1 then.

For convenience, here are the links to V2 and V3 firmware, from iView's web site.

Try rescanning your cable channels after installing one of those on your iView. If the one you try doesn't work well, try the other; if neither works well and you want to switch back, here's the link to the V1 firmware that your box came with.

Note to other readers: The firmware links above are for an iView 3500STBII with a channel 3/4 switch in back. Do not use them on any other iView.
With V2 and v3, will I be able to still use both OTA and cable feeds? I see on the iView site that V2 and v3 are listed (cabe only). Does that mean ATSC tuning is disabled with these firmwares?
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I believe all three versions are identical for OTA, and the only differences are how they deal with cable.

The English language doesn't seem to be iView's strong suit. V2 and V3 do say "cable only" on their Web site but I think what they're trying to communicate is that if you're OTA, you should just stick with V1 because you won't see any difference, so there's no reason to upgrade.

I really don't think they disabled OTA in V2 or V3; I've been following this thread for some time and several folks have loaded this firmware, but no one has reported that.

But as I said before, if V2 or V3 don't work the way you want, just load V1 back onto your iView and it'll be back like it is now.
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I hope this is not inappropriate but since this thread has been comparing all the different models and chipsets I thought I would post... Iview has just released a new unit a 3100... has anyone played with one? I called tech support and all they were able to tell me was that the main chipset is no longer an mstar based one at all and that all features and even the firmware look very much like other models.
Just took a quick look. HDMI and composite outputs only, like the HW-180 or eMatic AT103. Amazon has it for $33.66; but iView is selling it for $99! The remote looks identical to the 3200STB remote (including the funky layout of the 0-9 digit buttons).

To me, the 3200 looks like the better box of the two. The 3200 is cheaper, has an external "wall-wart" power supply that can be replaced without replacing the whole box, and has a coaxial digital audio output.

That said, it's not really possible to compare it to the other boxes until somebody sets one up and starts using it. As far as firmware goes, we need a screenshot of the Settings / Information page; that should tell us the SoC, which in turn would tell us what other firmware might be compatible with it.
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The 3100STB looks like a stripped down 3500/3200 (?). Walmart has it at $19.99 (list price $29.99).

http://www.walmart.com/ip/iVIEW-3100...emote/51104045

...and what's up with the "Universal Remote" description by Walmart? LOL ...huh?!?

Hard to tell if the "power cord" is an external PS or A/C. Unit appears too small to have an internal PS. You're right, the remote is the same as the 3200 remote. Not crazy about the front USB port.

Curious to see actual user reviews on this forum. Time will tell. Ready-set-GO!!!
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From the pictures at Amazon and Walmart.com, it looks like an internal PS. There's a power cord going into the back.

The 3200STB and RCA DTA880 are the only boxes I know of with external power supplies. Edit: The new HW-130 also has an external PS. Don't know anything about this one. Reportedly it's more similar to the 3200 than to the 3100.

I still think the 3200 is a better box, but at $19.99 I'd be willing to live with a few inconveniences & missing features. Besides, my 3200 was buggy - I had to load HomeWorX firmware on it (and use the HomeWorX remote) to fix them. Maybe the 3100 has fewer bugs.

The person I quoted is getting one from Wal*Mart, so hopefully we'll soon have an idea how it performs. Edit: He wasn't impressed. See his review below.

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From the pictures at Amazon and Walmart.com, it looks like an internal PS. There's a power cord going into the back.

The 3200STB and RCA DTA880 are the only boxes I know of with external power supplies.

I still think the 3200 is a better box, but at $19.99 I'd be willing to live with a few inconveniences & missing features. Besides, my 3200 was buggy - I had to load HomeWorX firmware on it (and use the HomeWorX remote) to fix them. Maybe the 3100 has fewer bugs.

The person I quoted is getting one from Wal*Mart, so hopefully we'll soon have an idea how it performs.

Well so far am VERY unimpressed. I cant see any reason to keep this unit vs others on the market. Here is what I have found.

Pros:
Its smaller then any other box I have used
Its $20 where the others I am looking at are $30
This is the ONLY box I have seen that cc works on both playback and timestream
Completely redesigned interface (not all good)
Can set jump set intervals ( aka >>) 30 seconds, 1 min, 5 min, 10 min, 20 min, 30 min), great idea but in practice intervals are not useful above 1 min

Cons:
Remote is terrible and frequently becomes unresponsive, I found myself hitting a button up to 6 times sometimes to get it to work
Range of remote is even shorter then all the other boxes
Interferes with my RCA tv's ir worse then any other box, randomly turns off tv or changes inputs box is at same location as testing for all other boxes
Cannot set a timeshift buffer at all, they now have a setting "timeshift to record" that is simply on or off no idea if it will delete its mess after a timeshift using this method
Recording a show you only have once or daily as choices they have completely removed the weekly option.
The OSD boxes stay on the screen till you manually dismiss them. There might be a setting to change this but I haven't found it

Overall I really have to say the experience using this new box was pretty horrible and I could not recommend this to anyone even at the $20 price. Below should be attached screenshots of the info screen and the remote. It appears they are using completely different hardware and completely different firmware or hiding it very well.

Spemd the extra money and get a new homeworx 150
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Pros:
Its smaller then any other box I have used
Have you tried the 3200? It's very tiny also. The firmware's buggy but you can cross-flash it with HW-150 V2.1
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Have you tried the 3200? It's very tiny also. The firmware's buggy but you can cross-flash it with HW-150 V2.1
Well for now will stick with my 150 with v11 as while its a larger unit it has more firmware options and just seems like the most stable of all the units out there, though certainly not bug free.
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Wow, thanks for the quick 3100 review. Looks like the lack of a "weekly" programming option is a real deal killer, (hopefully they will correct this in a future firmware update).

So has the "internal" power supply been confirmed?

Glad they included a "skip" function (30 sec, 1 min. etc). Really miss this feature from the 3500/3200 as it comes in handy to skip over commercials. Hope the 3500/3200 adds this to a future update. (BTW, the way I have seen "skip" implemented in other electronics is to "skip" 30 sec. every time the button is pressed, adding up to 6x total).
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Wow, thanks for the quick 3100 review. Looks like the lack of a "weekly" programming option is a real deal killer, (hopefully they will correct this in a future firmware update).

So has the "internal" power supply been confirmed?

Glad they included a "skip" function (30 sec, 1 min. etc). Really miss this feature from the 3500/3200 as it comes in handy to skip over commercials. Hope the 3500/3200 adds this to a future update. (BTW, the way I have seen "skip" implemented in other electronics is to "skip" 30 sec. every time the button is pressed, adding up to 6x total).
Yes the PS is internal aka hardwired in. Also forgot ot mention in my quick review there is no 32x fast forward. It has 2x, 4x, 8x, 16x and 24x.

The new homeworx hw130 has a removable power supply aka external power wort but also couldn't recommend that one either based on chats with tech support. Its pretty much a 180 but smaller and with all new firmware that has the old cc bugs added back in.
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Just one more question about the 3100 remote control....

Noticed in the posted picture that the 3100 remote is identical to the 3200 remote EXCEPT for the "swap" key which is labeled "goto" on the 3200.

So what key is used for the "skip" function? You mentioned it is programmable via the menu, but how do you actually skip 30 sec. or 1 min. or whatever?
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Just one more question about the 3100 remote control....

Noticed in the posted picture that the 3100 remote is identical to the 3200 remote EXCEPT for the "swap" key which is labeled "goto" on the 3200.

So what key is used for the "skip" function? You mentioned it is programmable via the menu, but how do you actually skip 30 sec. or 1 min. or whatever?
Couldn't tell you there was no documentation which is no surprise.... I have already returned the device I still feel dirty but there are a set of forward and back buttons at the top and another set near the bottom. I am guessing one set does the fast forward and the other set does the skip.

I know this is the iview thread but having tested the rca, ematic, iview and homeworx I really have to say the only box I kept out of all of them was the homeworx 150. Now since this is the iview thread i should mention that another user has flashed his iview 3200 to homeworx 150 firmware successfully and he says it has resolved most if not all of the buggy firmware issues that came on the 3200. Just my 2 cents.
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Well, some good news: HW-150 firmware V2.1 works, and it fixes the annoying bug when scheduling recordings from the EPG! (You do have to use a HomeWorX remote.)

The only anomaly I saw was that the front-panel LED went dark when the box booted up. It was still red in standby, and turned green when I turned it on; it just went dark when the TV show came on. Other than that everything seemed OK.
Continuing to experiment with cross-flashing 7802 firmware, I am now trying HW-150 firmware V5.0. So far, almost everything works, with one big exception I'll discuss in a minute.

Closed captions work during playback with both V2.1 and V5.0 of the HW-150 firmware. This surprised me because that function was reported not to work on an actual HW-150. The only difference is, V2.1 pops up a little "CC*ON" or "CC*OFF" box when you press CC during playback; V5.0 doesn't. It just starts showing closed captions.

V2.1 seemed to have some delay in the closed captions; V5.0 seems to have them in sync with the actual audio.

Neither HW-150 version has the bugs found with iView V5.0 firmware (scheduling recordings from the EPG, or daily timers acting like weekly ones).

The 3200's LED acts differently with V5.0. When on, the green LED is on; when off, both the red and green LED come on, the combo looking rather orange to me.

Now for the bad news: to test the daily timer bug, I set up a daily timer to check that the date would advance by one day, not seven. (It correctly advanced by one day.) But there was a problem: when the timer fired, the box booted up and tuned to the correct channel, but it did not start recording! The HDD was accessible, so I can't figure out why the recording didn't start. I'll keep experimenting but unless this was just a fluke, it would mean you'd have to leave the 3200 turned on all the time for scheduled recordings to work.
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Continuing to experiment with cross-flashing 7802 firmware, I am now trying HW-150 firmware V5.0. So far, almost everything works, with one big exception I'll discuss in a minute.

Closed captions work during playback with both V2.1 and V5.0 of the HW-150 firmware. This surprised me because that function was reported not to work on an actual HW-150. The only difference is, V2.1 pops up a little "CC*ON" or "CC*OFF" box when you press CC during playback; V5.0 doesn't. It just starts showing closed captions.

V2.1 seemed to have some delay in the closed captions; V5.0 seems to have them in sync with the actual audio.

Neither HW-150 version has the bugs found with iView V5.0 firmware (scheduling recordings from the EPG, or daily timers acting like weekly ones).

The 3200's LED acts differently with V5.0. When on, the green LED is on; when off, both the red and green LED come on, the combo looking rather orange to me.

Now for the bad news: to test the daily timer bug, I set up a daily timer to check that the date would advance by one day, not seven. (It correctly advanced by one day.) But there was a problem: when the timer fired, the box booted up and tuned to the correct channel, but it did not start recording! The HDD was accessible, so I can't figure out why the recording didn't start. I'll keep experimenting but unless this was just a fluke, it would mean you'd have to leave the 3200 turned on all the time for scheduled recordings to work.
You really need to try v11 its the v5 equivalent for the 180. Would be curious to see if you have the same issues with it.
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Just ordered a remote to test the HW-180 firmware. Will be in touch soon.
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Just ordered a remote to test the HW-180 firmware. Will be in touch soon.
Am still rocking v11 and no issues. Wanna give me all your tests and I will see what results I get, as while i still have remote conflicts i am learning to deal with them and everything else I have done so far seems to work as expected. Though I do admit I never turn off the box, got in that habit when on cable tv as if you turned off that dvr it wasn't smart enough to turn back on.

But would be more then willing to help you test a little just list out exact scenerios to test and I will see what I can do.

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Continuing to experiment with cross-flashing 7802 firmware, I am now trying HW-150 firmware V5.0. So far, almost everything works, with one big exception....

Now for the bad news: to test the daily timer bug, I set up a daily timer to check that the date would advance by one day, not seven. (It correctly advanced by one day.) But there was a problem: when the timer fired, the box booted up and tuned to the correct channel, but it did not start recording! The HDD was accessible, so I can't figure out why the recording didn't start. I'll keep experimenting but unless this was just a fluke, it would mean you'd have to leave the 3200 turned on all the time for scheduled recordings to work.
I just re-tested recording from standby on a different channel. This time, it worked. (Whew!) I'll retest the original channel again later, to see if the problem is specific to certain channels.

Also, I noticed V5.0 seemed to take a long time to boot, so I timed it today: 21 seconds. Not bad but it seems a lot longer than I'm used to, so I'll time the boot-ups of other versions and see if there's a real difference.
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I just re-tested recording from standby on a different channel. This time, it worked. (Whew!) I'll retest the original channel again later, to see if the problem is specific to certain channels.

Also, I noticed V5.0 seemed to take a long time to boot, so I timed it today: 21 seconds. Not bad but it seems a lot longer than I'm used to, so I'll time the boot-ups of other versions and see if there's a real difference.
Did you notice a difference in the remotes responsiveness/sluggishness between v5 and v2.1?

Also guessing what you may find is the standby/wakeup might be flaky aka sometimes it works and sometimes not. I seem to remember reading it is present in all versions. Again would be interested to see when you try v11. I will try and do a little testing myself.
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To me, the remote seemed equally responsive with V2.1 and V5.0.

I've retried recording from standby several times today and it has worked every time. The only thing I can think of is that the time yesterday when it failed, the tuner did that "triple clutch" thing where it tunes in the channel, then the screen goes blank a couple of times before it finally tunes in "for good." It's possible that process didn't finish in time for the recording to start.

The "triple clutch" is a longstanding bug that only seems to happen on certain channels, usually less than once a day. Ion (the station I tested with) is one of those stations. Today the "triple clutch" never happened on Ion or the other station I tried (Fox), so that may be why it worked today.

I'll continue to experiment. If it is the "triple clutch" that causes a timed recording to fail, a workaround might be to schedule a 1-minute recording on the same channel right before the actual show. That would make the box come on and either record one unwanted minute or fail, after which the desired recording would still start.

Edit: Today I confirmed that V5.0 still has another bug: the "triple clutch" rescanned Ion, removing all the "skipped channel" flags from its scrambled Airbox channels. This is a longstanding bug I call the "channel rescan bug" that affects all known iView and HomeWorX firmware versions. It also strengthens my suspicion that the "triple clutch" caused the recording failure.

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To me, the remote seemed equally responsive with V2.1 and V5.0.

I've retried recording from standby several times today and it has worked every time. The only thing I can think of is that the time yesterday when it failed, the tuner did that "triple clutch" thing where it tunes in the channel, then the screen goes blank a couple of times before it finally tunes in "for good." It's possible that process didn't finish in time for the recording to start.

The "triple clutch" is a longstanding bug that only seems to happen on certain channels, usually less than once a day. Ion (the station I tested with) is one of those stations. Today the "triple clutch" never happened on Ion or the other station I tried (Fox), so that may be why it worked today.

I'll continue to experiment. If it is the "triple clutch" that causes a timed recording to fail, a workaround might be to schedule a 1-minute recording on the same channel right before the actual show. That would make the box come on and either record one unwanted minute or fail, after which the desired recording would still start.
I did a quick test for you with v11... took right about 15 seconds to boot up.. it did turn on and off properly all by itself. It has recorded daily and weeklies properly and I even tested crossing the midnight barrier for recording and that also seemed to work.
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Both V2.1 and V5.0 have a bug when trying to schedule a recording that spans midnight. You may want to check V11 for this:

If you have a weekly recording scheduled, and try to add a new one-time or weekly recording starting on the same day, but ending on or after midnight, it will falsely report a schedule conflict and won't let you do it. Oddly, though, if you change the midnight-crossing recording to "daily," it will let you add it.
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Both V2.1 and V5.0 have a bug when trying to schedule a recording that spans midnight. You may want to check V11 for this:

If you have a weekly recording scheduled, and try to add a new one-time or weekly recording starting on the same day, but ending on or after midnight, it will falsely report a schedule conflict and won't let you do it. Oddly, though, if you change the midnight-crossing recording to "daily," it will let you add it.
can you give me a specific example with times and all so i can try and duplicate it
aka something like
recording 1 daily 2300 - 0000
recording 2 weekly whatever
as daily is for every day (7 days a week) if a daily crosses midnight you would not be able to do another weekly or daily crossing midnight or you would have a legit conflict. Seems the only legit way to have 2 things crossing midnight would be 2 weeklies on separate days.

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